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#351
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Some Shepards are neither Spectres nor part of the Alliance any longer. It isn't in Kaidan's personality to try and give Shepard orders, anyway. Either way, it's a moot point.

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Shepard needs to be promoted to "Lord." Plain and simple.

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Ydub00Ether wrote...

After everything Shepards been through he should have already been promoted to Captain. Its irritating to me when all of his crew are advancing and Shepard is just ignored and seen as a criminal for joining creberus for the greater good. VS gets spectre status and bumped up in rank in the alliance. Spoier Warning: Liara gets to be the new and improved shadow broker. Wrex goes back to being his clans leader back on his home turf. But what a bout Shepard. Nothing. Absolutely nothing but an empty thankyou form the council, and the alliance awards him by sending him to trial. WHAT!? He should at least be Captain Shep by the end of the I told you so invasion at the begining of ME3. Thats at least my opinion.


Actually, Kaidan gets bumped 2 ranks and becomes a Spectre.  :whistle:

I agree with you, partially.  Shepard should have received a promotion after taking down Sovereign, which would place Shepard as Staff Commander.  This would mean Shep has equal rank as Kaidan, but more seniority - even if Shep is considered MIA/KIA or AWOL while serving Cerberus.

However, I disagree with your thinking that Shepard should receive promotion during time spent with Cerberus.  The only way that could ever fly is if Shepard was ordered to infiltrate Cerberus - i.e. is still an active member of the Alliance military on a sanctioned  mission.  If your Shepard tells the Alliance to go scratch, why should Shep receive a promotion from a group he/she walked away from?  And honestly, why would it matter who outranks who if your Shep told the Alliance to go scratch?  And if your Shep tells the Council to also go pound sand, then why would it matter?  

You could call him/her Lord God Almighty for all titles and ranks will mean if your Shepard is now with Cerberus.

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Kabanya101 wrote...

Kaiden will NEVER outrank my Shepard, I made sure every playthrough that the prototype Legion as I call him died.


So this affects you how?  <_<  If Kaidan died on Virmire in all your playthroughs, then he never got promoted & became a Spectre.  And Ashley won't outrank Shepard, so what is the big deal?

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Lets get one thing right. Commander Shepard will always outrank staff commander Kaiden simple due to a fact that shepards rank commission came before Kaidans. Also shepard is a commander of a starship, holder of brevet captain rank.

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redbaron76 wrote...

Lets get one thing right. Commander Shepard will always outrank staff commander Kaiden simple due to a fact that shepards rank commission came before Kaidans. Also shepard is a commander of a starship, holder of brevet captain rank.


Which means squat when you're a deserter who faked his death to work with a terrorist organization. Your rank is "brig occupant".

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Shepard: "Im ready to take command of the normandy and be at the head of this battle"
Alliance: "Woah woah woah? Command of Normandy? You just got court martialled and the only reason your not in jail is because the proceedings were interupted.. Heck the only reason we let you on the ship again was because **** hit the fan.. We will drop you off at the citadel to be imprisoned until further notice you homocidal maniac

Seriously even with the reaper threat shepard must be indoctronated or daft or something.. I mean the reapers will inevitably get to the galaxy and begin attacking.. All shepard did was delay it a bit but at the cost of starting a war making humanity weaker for when the reapers arrive.. That and make himself appear to be a homocidal mass murderer who cannot be trusted.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 17 juillet 2011 - 05:16 .


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Kaidan/Ashley are Spectres in ME3.

So if your paragon, you've got nothing to worry about, your a Spectre too!
If your a renegade...well..you can play the game listening to them.

As for Shepard being a mass murderer...well, they were Batarians, who cares?

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FoxShadowblade wrote...

Kaidan/Ashley are Spectres in ME3.

So if your paragon, you've got nothing to worry about, your a Spectre too!
If your a renegade...well..you can play the game listening to them.

As for Shepard being a mass murderer...well, they were Batarians, who cares?


300,000 Batarians dead?

A damn good start.

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Made Nightwing wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Kaidan/Ashley are Spectres in ME3.

So if your paragon, you've got nothing to worry about, your a Spectre too!
If your a renegade...well..you can play the game listening to them.

As for Shepard being a mass murderer...well, they were Batarians, who cares?


300,000 Batarians dead?

A damn good start.


That's the spirit.

It's just 300,000 less to deal with in the war. And let's face it, the Batarians and their "Patriots" have had war coming for a long, long time. It's about time someone shoved a relay down their throats...literally an exploding relay, but who am I too judge justifiable mass murdering of terrorists?

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Made Nightwing wrote...

300,000 Batarians dead?

A damn good start.


I am the recently courtmarshalled Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite post in this thread.


And since I can't copy the post above mine and don't want to double post, I'll respond in this manner. I am going through both games right now as a Colonist Shepard that will stop at nothing to exterminate every Batarian she meets with "ruthless" (see what I did there) efficiency.

OT: Since the VS is a Spectre now, I imagine that Shepard will still be in command since (s)he was a Spectre first, therefore having seniority over the recently Spectre'd Ashley/Kaidan. And if you didn't get reinstated as a Spectre I imagine that the Council will reinstate you anyway once the **** hits the fan or the VS will simply follow your orders anyway since you know what you're doing.

Modifié par Magicman10893, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:30 .


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Magicman10893 wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

300,000 Batarians dead?

A damn good start.


I am the recently courtmarshalled Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite post in this thread.


You know I'd like to engage in a intellectual discussion about your post, and I'll start by...

By...

...-stares at sig-

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Made Nightwing

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FoxShadowblade wrote...

Magicman10893 wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

300,000 Batarians dead?

A damn good start.


I am the recently courtmarshalled Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite post in this thread.


You know I'd like to engage in a intellectual discussion about your post, and I'll start by...

By...

...-stares at sig-


What are you...damn, he's got a nice sig.

#364
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meh, who cares about ranks. Shepard could have the rank of "Stoner" and still be badass.

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Shep isn't really Alliance anymore. The guy is a Specter, who pretty much out ranks all Alliance personal.

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Mr.House wrote...

Shepard has no true rank anymore, Shepard is still called Commander for three reasons.

1:That was the title they had before he/she died
2: Shepard is known across the galaxy as Commander and never changed rank before death.
3: Walters was too lazy to touch this in the game and did not get rid of the Commander title.


The bold font is not necessarily true, I live next to a retired Marine major and as a sign of respect I still call him Major. So who's the say the people that still call him commander aren't showing him respect fro what he did and his rank before death. But it wouldn't surprise me if he gets a promotion from the Alliance when he gets sent back to the field. This situation kinda reminds me of one of the Star Trek movies when Kirk gets demoted for blowing up the Enterprise and defying Federation orders and then gets an immediate promotion for saving the world again.

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1.) The VS can kiss my ass. Ashley became more of a random bit*h even if she was your love interest; and Kaidan did the same.

2.) No way am I taking orders from these douche bags especially after they flarked up Horizion so bad AND blamed me for a lot of the bullsh*t!!!!

3.) In real life I doubt you'd see anyone gay or bisexual (unless it was a very well kept secret) in the military as a high-ish rank. And theres no way I'm going to tollerate a gay Kaidan on my ship - I'd boot that f*cker off right quick.

No more "pandering" for me after the last batch of flamers.

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squidney2k1 wrote...

Shepard needs to be promoted to "Lord." Plain and simple.



High Warlord Shepard

God King Shepard

Emperor Shepard

Prince of the Saiyans Shepard

Oh wait...nevermind that last one there.

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Commander is not Shepard's rank it's who (s)he is and what (s)he does Shepard doesn't take orders (s)he commands.

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LeVaughnX wrote...

1.) The VS can kiss my ass. Ashley became more of a random bit*h even if she was your love interest; and Kaidan did the same.

2.) No way am I taking orders from these douche bags especially after they flarked up Horizion so bad AND blamed me for a lot of the bullsh*t!!!!

3.) In real life I doubt you'd see anyone gay or bisexual (unless it was a very well kept secret) in the military as a high-ish rank. And theres no way I'm going to tollerate a gay Kaidan on my ship - I'd boot that f*cker off right quick.

No more "pandering" for me after the last batch of flamers.


You know what? Not only are you a twit, you are also a bigot.

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Kaiden can kiss my ass.

The Alliance can kiss my ass.

The whole galaxy can kiss my ass.

After 2 years+, getting stonewalled at almost every turn by nearly every person I've come into contact with and/or asked for help, I'ma do **** my way from the get-go.

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LeVaughnX wrote...

1.) The VS can kiss my ass. Ashley became more of a random bit*h even if she was your love interest; and Kaidan did the same.

2.) No way am I taking orders from these douche bags especially after they flarked up Horizion so bad AND blamed me for a lot of the bullsh*t!!!!

3.) In real life I doubt you'd see anyone gay or bisexual (unless it was a very well kept secret) in the military as a high-ish rank. And theres no way I'm going to tollerate a gay Kaidan on my ship - I'd boot that f*cker off right quick.

No more "pandering" for me after the last batch of flamers.


Your mom must be so proud.

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LeVaughnX wrote...

squidney2k1 wrote...

Shepard needs to be promoted to "Lord." Plain and simple.



High Warlord Shepard

God King Shepard

Emperor Shepard

Prince of the Saiyans Shepard

Oh wait...nevermind that last one there.


I prefer "Brig Occupant #59827564, Shepard, J., Charge: Treason"

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Siansonea II wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...

squidney2k1 wrote...

Shepard needs to be promoted to "Lord." Plain and simple.



High Warlord Shepard

God King Shepard

Emperor Shepard

Prince of the Saiyans Shepard

Oh wait...nevermind that last one there.


I prefer "Brig Occupant #59827564, Shepard, J., Charge: Treason"


And we all know what happens to Shepard in prison...



:whistle:

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Xarathox wrote...

Kaiden can kiss my ass.

The Alliance can kiss my ass.

The whole galaxy can kiss my ass.

After 2 years+, getting stonewalled at almost every turn by nearly every person I've come into contact with and/or asked for help, I'ma do **** my way from the get-go.


Agreed. Even my uber paragon Sheps are sick of this ****.