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Darkelefantos1

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I wondered, too. So Kaidan is Staff Commander. But isn't Shepard at least that? Seeing as (s)he is refered to as Commander, anyways. And besides, since (s)he is a Spectre, (s)he is outta the command chain of the Alliance, (s)he just does them favours.

(Now if Kaidan becomes a Spectre, they'd technically be equals, but he'd still take all orders from Shepard because of 1. Shepard's natural authority, 2. Shepard's greater experience overall and 3. cause only Shepard is a match for the Reapers.)

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evilmunky80

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Meh, Kaidan is dead in all my ME1 plaaythroughs so it's a moot point for me

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I don't worry about Kaidan giving orders. He'd have to have a lot of nerve to do so, but Shepard wouldn't follow them if he did. Plus they'll both be Spectres at that point and rank won't matter anyway; Spectres can't order each other around.

I always felt a little bad for Kaidan, having a girlfriend who was not only higher ranked, but infinitely more badass than he. I always felt that he must feel a little emasculated by that. So if having a higher rank makes him feel better, than by all means, let him have a higher rank.

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Hmm, well there's a very easy way to solve this power struggle. Who can hold their breath the longest in space, you first Kaidan.

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MacCready wrote...

Hmm, well there's a very easy way to solve this power struggle. Who can hold their breath the longest in space, you first Kaidan.


Naked Wrestling ???:pinched:


Plus I think it will be slightly how Shepards relationship is with Anderson and how he advises him but doesn't explicitly tell him what to do.

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Siegdrifa

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Well, in my case he dies (always) on vermire so, i don't care for his postume promotion in the end hehehe.

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Siegdrifa wrote...

Well, in my case he dies (always) on vermire so, i don't care for his postume promotion in the end hehehe.


I love posts like this, They add so much to a topic!

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I do wonder if we will even be a commander in mass effect 3 I mean there has to be some punishment to the arrival decsion so if the trail gets that far might we be kicked out of the alliance also anderson is on the ship while we escape from earth so I am guessing while the trail is going on he is in command of the ship so I am guessing he will give the ship to shepard again and put him in command

plus even in mass effect the name commander is just a place holder as shepard himself says technically he is not even in the alliance anymore

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Actually, Admiral Anderson is probably CO of Normandy and he doesn't run off with you to save the galaxy, so he probably gives command to Shep, there problem fixed. I can also see Anderson giving Shep a field commission to Captain.

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My understanding, is that Anderson reinstates Shepard and puts her in command of Normady.
End of story. Kaidan is free to leave Normandy at any time, or be relocated to the brig, if he has issues. The universe has been invaded, and Shep will not waste time on insubordinate crew.

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They may outrank Shepard, but it's still Shepard's ship.

His ship, his rules.

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Too bad the little ass is dead for me.

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Um, Shepard's a Specter.
If you were smart enough to reinstate his/her status, that is.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

They may outrank Shepard, but it's still Shepard's ship.

His ship, his rules.


This....:wizard:

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nocbl2 wrote...

Um, Shepard's a Specter.
If you were smart enough to reinstate his/her status, that is.


in the comic I am guessing it was a no on that as the council was saying it had nothing to do with them it will be interesting in the game how they play the trail seeing as spectres are meant to be able to have a free hand on missions which would have given the alliance an easy out on this

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If he's dead (like in my canon), don't worry.
If he lives:
If Kaidan is Staff Commander, he already outranks Shepard (Lieutenant Commander).
Too bad he lacks the backbone to actually give Shepard an order.

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eternalnightmare13

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Kaidan is dead.

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wolf99000

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there is another option maybe ash and kaidan have left the alliance when they became spectres that would solve it

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It's obvious if you played ME1.

"You may no longer be Alliance, Shepard, but you are still human." ... Admiral Hackett to Shepard in ME1. The implication here is that a Spectre cannot be beholden to any government. So this would apply to Kaiden or Ashley as well. Shepard human? Not as much since Lazarus.

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I think Shep should be promoted....you'd think saving the world three times over would earn him/her a promotion.

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Shepard doesn't need no stinking medal or rank to prove that he/she is a galactic hero pimp. Shepard could save the galaxy in pink undies and still be home in time for dinner.

rank pfft

#422
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There's no Major rank in the navy

It's

Ensign
Lieutenant jr
Lieutenant
Lt-Commander
Commander
Captain
Rear Admiral
Vice Admiral
Admiral
Fleet Admiral 

Lt Commander is the equivalent of major.

Edit .. Although major is a senior officer rank.

Ah forget about it(Go hide in a corner)
I`m a bit confused right now.

I tough that Admiral was the equivalent of General and Captain the equivalent of Colonel etc.  So that would make Commander the equivalent of Major. But in the grand scheme of thing it's inferior?

Who care anyway ... THey're all Chimp.
Or maybe there's no equivalent of Colonel in the navy? That would actually make sense.

Modifié par Suprez30, 19 septembre 2011 - 04:42 .


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I really don't care if Kaidan is a rank above me. Specters answer to no one but the council. The council owes us already for saving their ass, if you did that is. If you told the council to shove off in ME2 the VS will have Specter status covered. Shepard has the most Intel on Cerberus, Collectors, Protheans, and Reapers. Kaidan had a deep respect for Shepard and I can see them working together. Will the Council and Alliance trust me after working with Cerberus? I think they will get the picture when Cerberus starts attacking me that our honeymoon is over. Other than that if Kaidan has a problem or gets ****y I will remind him of all the times I saved his ass and how I had to do his job for him. Without Shepard, Kaidan and everyone else would be dead. If they have a problem with me they can kiss my ass.

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Pax of Doom

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Suprez30 wrote...

There's no Major rank in the navy


The game created their own ranks.

ENLISTED

* Serviceman 3rd class/Private 2nd class
* Serviceman 2nd class/Private 1st class
* Serviceman 1st class/Corporal

NCOs

* Service Chief
* Gunnery Chief
* Operations Chief

OFFICERS

* 2nd Lieutenant
* 1st Lieutenant
* Staff Lieutenant
* Lieutenant Commander
* Staff Commander
* Captain/Major
* Rear Admiral/General
* Admiral
* Fleet Admiral

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didymos1120

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Suprez30 wrote...

There's no Major rank in the navy


Codex:

Systems Alliance: Military Ranks

The Alliance uses a modified version of the ranking system that has been used for hundreds of years. Soldiers are classified into rank-and-file enlisted personal, experienced non-commissioned officers (NCOs), and specially trained officers.

The divide between naval personnel and ground forces ("marines") is small. Ground units are a specialized branch of the fleet, just as fighter squadrons are. This unity of command is imposed by the futility of fighting without control of orbit; without the navy, any army is pointless. The marines, as a matter of pride, maintain some of their traditional rank titles; for example, marines have Privates and Corporals instead of Servicemen.

In ascending order of responsibility, the ranks of the Alliance are:

ENLISTED

Serviceman 3rd class/Private 2nd class
Serviceman 2nd class/Private 1st class
Serviceman 1st class/Corporal

NCOs

Service Chief
Gunnery Chief
Operations Chief

OFFICERS

2nd Lieutenant
1st Lieutenant
Staff Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Staff Commander
Captain/Major
Rear Admiral/General
Admiral
Fleet Admiral


ETA:  I see my reply is redundant.

Modifié par didymos1120, 19 septembre 2011 - 06:16 .