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[Ryzaki]

Really though Shep's due a promotion. I want one even if Shep still goes by Commander.

[Ace of Dawn]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Sure he is a spectre and doesn't really have to listen to the alliance.. but he is on an alliance ship filled with alliance crew.. So if he ignores them they can just take away his ship and crew and he can be publiclly know as the hitch-hiking loner Spectre lol. Lucky for him the Alliance has bigger concerns right now though.. plus most of them are most likely dead

Well, it was justified in ME1 that since it was funded by the Council, and co-developed by the Turians, it could be diverted from Alliance command and enter Spectre usage. The only issue would be the Alliance crew, but it would stand to reason that if the Council requested a deferment of command in any sort of capacity, it would happen without too much fuss.

[Gterror]

They could promote him/her to Supreme Commander Shepard, that sounds more badass.

[Augustei]

Heather Cline wrote...

Ok I've gotten the official Game Informer Magazine and it did not state anywhere that Shepard was being Court Martialed for anything. Yes Shepard destroyed that section of the galaxy to stop the Reapers but it does not state anywhere that he/she was being court martialed. In fact it only states that the story picks up where Shepard is in front of a tribunal to answer for that incident alone. No mention of a court martial.

We also do not have any information on what Kaiden's military rank is either. I would like to know where you all are getting this information from.

Since it was a millitary offence subject to millitary law, Shepard would be getting Court Marshalled. TIM and Captain / Councillor Anderson refer to Kaidan in ME2 as Staff Commander.. So he already outranks shepard in ME2 since Shepard is a Lieutenant Commander.

[nhsk]

RVNX wrote...

it's simple...........in ME3, Shepard gets promoted to the highest rank possible..............Savior of the Known Universe.

everyone will respect Shepard..........everyone.........

Unless he is renegade, then he promoted to "scourge of the dark beyond", which in itself is impressive and makes the reapers crap dark matter and flee to a galaxy far far away. Heard the imperium was running short of Imperial class Star Destroyers anyway.

[Augustei]

Vilma wrote...

Heather Cline wrote...

Ok I've gotten the official Game Informer Magazine and it did not state anywhere that Shepard was being Court Martialed for anything. Yes Shepard destroyed that section of the galaxy to stop the Reapers but it does not state anywhere that he/she was being court martialed. In fact it only states that the story picks up where Shepard is in front of a tribunal to answer for that incident alone. No mention of a court martial.

My bad. I sort of assumed that that tribunal equals court martial, for Shep having committed a treason for joining Cerberus.

The crime he commited was in the ME2 DLC arrival.. 

*ME2 Spoilers*

He Pretty much wiped out a batarian system and their response is highly like the prepare for war with the alliance

[E-Type XR]

I expect that Kaiden will step down to allow Shepard Command of the Normandy, seeing as he served with him, and most likely knows Shepard is the only one who can save the Galaxy.

Also, Commander is as iconic a name as Shepard. To Command is effectively to guide or lead, which is similar to the meaning of Shepard.

[Augustei]

Ace of Dawn wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

Sure he is a spectre and doesn't really have to listen to the alliance.. but he is on an alliance ship filled with alliance crew.. So if he ignores them they can just take away his ship and crew and he can be publiclly know as the hitch-hiking loner Spectre lol. Lucky for him the Alliance has bigger concerns right now though.. plus most of them are most likely dead

Well, it was justified in ME1 that since it was funded by the Council, and co-developed by the Turians, it could be diverted from Alliance command and enter Spectre usage. The only issue would be the Alliance crew, but it would stand to reason that if the Council requested a deferment of command in any sort of capacity, it would happen without too much fuss.

Unless you let the council die in ME1. Then the Alliance pretty much controls the council as well so idk what will happen there.

Regarding the crew though, just read a previous post that covered that. EDI was able to replace the entire crew and cover their duties after they were taken in ME2 so all we need is EDI who luckily is still installed on the normandy =D

[adneate]

Vilma wrote...
My bad. I sort of assumed that that tribunal equals court martial, for Shep having committed a treason for joining Cerberus.

A Tribunal is a group of Military officers acting as Judges and Jurors, they hear arguments and evidence then sentance the individual in question. A Court-Martial is more like a western civilian court, where there is a judge, a defense advocate and a prosecutor, as well as a panel of officers acting as jury.

Tribunals tend to be synonymous with "Show Trials" designed to simply convict someone as quickly as possible to get them out of the way. A Court-Martial would be a much better option for Shepard, a Tribunal is about as severe as it gets.

Modifié par adneate, 04 juillet 2011 - 09:59 .

[Augustei]

E-Type XR wrote...
Also, Commander is as iconic a name as Shepard. To Command is effectively to guide or lead, which is similar to the meaning of Shepard.

Well shepards rank is called Lieutenant-Commander.. whereas Kaidan if he isn't Captain / Major by ME3 will be Staff-Commander and would probably also be adressed as just Commander.

[Vilma]

adneate wrote...

A Tribunal is a group of Military officers acting as Judges and Jurors, they hear arguments and evidence then sentance the individual in question. A Court-Martial is more like a western civilian court, where there is a judge, a defense advocate and a prosecutor, as well as a panel of officers acting as jury.

Tribunals tend to be synonymous with "Show Trials" designed to simply convict someone as quickly as possible to get them out of the way. A Court-Martial would be a much better option for Shepard, a Tribunal is about as severe as it gets.

One learns something new every day, it seems. Thank you for educating me.

[Homebound]

they r both spectres...

ranks? we dont need ranks.

[outlaw1109]

You people forget that the Normandy SR2 is NOT an Alliance Vassal. Kaiden can no more be placed in charge of it than Delan Inder can. Shepard stole it from Cerberus fair and square.

A non-alliance shepard could easily tell Kaiden to get bent, but, so could an Alliance Shep. I mean, what's he going to do if shep chooses to disobey his commands? Fight to the death? Sorry...no.

[MajorStranger]

If kaidan try to take over the Normandy I'll kick his ass out of the airlock.

[Augustei]

outlaw1109 wrote...

You people forget that the Normandy SR2 is NOT an Alliance Vassal. Kaiden can no more be placed in charge of it than Delan Inder can. Shepard stole it from Cerberus fair and square.

A non-alliance shepard could easily tell Kaiden to get bent, but, so could an Alliance Shep. I mean, what's he going to do if shep chooses to disobey his commands? Fight to the death? Sorry...no.

The Normandy SR2 has been claimed by the Alliance in ME3

[efrgfhnm_]

If Kaidan tries to pull rank, then there needs to be an incredibly over the top renegade reaction. Maybe not as severe as murdering him by shooting him out the air lock, but something extreme... Maybe there's a brig that he could be locked in?

[Ace of Dawn]

XxDeonxX wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...

You people forget that the Normandy SR2 is NOT an Alliance Vassal. Kaiden can no more be placed in charge of it than Delan Inder can. Shepard stole it from Cerberus fair and square.

A non-alliance shepard could easily tell Kaiden to get bent, but, so could an Alliance Shep. I mean, what's he going to do if shep chooses to disobey his commands? Fight to the death? Sorry...no.

The Normandy SR2 has been claimed by the Alliance in ME3

Yes, it has been reclaimed and reworked by the Alliance, but mitigating circumstances (such as a Reaper invasion) could easily mean that placing to Spectres in command and letting them do what they can while everyone else fights would be for the best. As impressive as the Normandy is... it's still only a frigate, and the stealth systems have been proven to be beaten.

[Augustei]

efrgfhnm wrote...

If Kaidan tries to pull rank, then there needs to be an incredibly over the top renegade reaction. Maybe not as severe as murdering him by shooting him out the air lock, but something extreme... Maybe there's a brig that he could be locked in?

Beat the crap out of him?

I hear that being an L2, he reacts badly to bright lights and loud noises.. So tie him to a chair while shining a light directly into his face while banging dishes togeather right by his ears?

[TexasToast712]

 If Kaidan dares to try pulling rank on me he will find himself stuffed into a box and shot out the nearest airlock.

[MajorStranger]

He won't die! He's got an Alliance approved seal-tight armor! (the same ****ty one I had when I died)

[outlaw1109]

XxDeonxX wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...

You people forget that the Normandy SR2 is NOT an Alliance Vassal. Kaiden can no more be placed in charge of it than Delan Inder can. Shepard stole it from Cerberus fair and square.

A non-alliance shepard could easily tell Kaiden to get bent, but, so could an Alliance Shep. I mean, what's he going to do if shep chooses to disobey his commands? Fight to the death? Sorry...no.

The Normandy SR2 has been claimed by the Alliance in ME3

Statement withdrawn.  I had not heard of that...

Do you have a source?

[efrgfhnm_]

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

If Kaidan tries to pull rank, then there needs to be an incredibly over the top renegade reaction. Maybe not as severe as murdering him by shooting him out the air lock, but something extreme... Maybe there's a brig that he could be locked in?

Beat the crap out of him?

I hear that being an L2, he reacts badly to bright lights and loud noises.. So tie him to a chair while shining a light directly into his face while banging dishes togeather right by his ears?

It would be so awesome if we could do the latter
Probably generate some controversy, but all that really does is help sales

[Augustei]

outlaw1109 wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...

You people forget that the Normandy SR2 is NOT an Alliance Vassal. Kaiden can no more be placed in charge of it than Delan Inder can. Shepard stole it from Cerberus fair and square.

A non-alliance shepard could easily tell Kaiden to get bent, but, so could an Alliance Shep. I mean, what's he going to do if shep chooses to disobey his commands? Fight to the death? Sorry...no.

The Normandy SR2 has been claimed by the Alliance in ME3

Statement withdrawn.  I had not heard of that...

Do you have a source?

Yeah i think it was the Earth gameplay demo they mention it.. the one where Shepard and Anderson are trying to escape.. Not mentioned in the actual game but in Biowares demonstration, according
to the wiki where its mentioned as well its also in the may issue of
gameinformer.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Kaidan does outrank Shepard in the Alliance Military, but he can't give him orders because Spectres don't answer to the normal chain of command. Even if he's a spectre himself, he doesn't have any technical authority over Shepard because each individual spectre answers directly to the Council. At the same though, Shepard still seems to treat superior officers with the respect they are due, or at least he has the option to. I think he or she still calls Rear Admiral Mihailovic "sir."