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[Lord Coake]

Wizz wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...
Garrus: Try it, Kaidan.

Garrus probably won't be there at the start of the game. Just for record.

EDI: Locking Mr. Alenko from all system functions.  Security parameters engaged, all mass-effect weaponry aboard the Normandy are now on lockdown.

Kaidan and Vega are then perfectly welcome to get their asses beat.

Modifié par Lord Coake, 05 juillet 2011 - 07:44 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

Lord Coake wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Nah, I see it more going like this...

Kaidan: Alright, Hackett ordered us to fall back to Arcturus, we'll go there, regroup with the fleet and then look at our options.

FemShep: Erm...No? This is my ship and if you think....

Kaidan: So the logical aspects of my plan don't mean anything compared to your ego?

FemShep: That's right.

Kaidan: Lieutenant Vega, please take Commander Shepard to the Brig until she stops acting like a petulant child.

Vega: On it boss.

Garrus: Try it, Kaidan.

Shepard: It's not Garrus you have to worry about. It's not even the psychotic tattoo-covered girl who has a problem with authority and biotic power to rival yours. It's the fact that this is my ship. And she can be a little... Protective.

EDI: I also control the life-support systems and automatic controls for all emergency hatches.

Shepard: I'd listen to the lady.

EDIT: LOL. Ninja'd, wouldn't you know it.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 05 juillet 2011 - 07:43 .

[Confused-Shepard]

I'd like to see Ashley Vs. FemShep. Vocal arguments turn physical while Garrus and Vega watch.
But seriously, wouldn't the VS delegate command to Shepard anyway because of experience and knowledge of the Reapers/Collectors etc. The Alliance knows the Collectors are real, and Kaidan/Ashley were there with you on Virmire speaking to Sovereign

On the other hand I would love to see Shepard be court martialed and nearly hung for his/her crimes. That would be new, everyone ****s on the protagonist. Their best friend turns against them.
Why do they pretend to be blind?

[Made Nightwing]

Lord Coake wrote...

Wizz wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...
Garrus: Try it, Kaidan.

Garrus probably won't be there at the start of the game. Just for record.

EDI: Locking Mr. Alenko from all system functions.  Security parameters engaged, all mass-effect weaponry aboard the Normandy are now on lockdown.

Kaidan and Vega are then perfectly welcome to get their asses beat.

Kaidan: Vega, while you're at it, please hit the killswitch we installed in the AI during the refit, as part of the proviso for it remaining on board.

[Made Nightwing]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Nah, I see it more going like this...

Kaidan: Alright, Hackett ordered us to fall back to Arcturus, we'll go there, regroup with the fleet and then look at our options.

FemShep: Erm...No? This is my ship and if you think....

Kaidan: So the logical aspects of my plan don't mean anything compared to your ego?

FemShep: That's right.

Kaidan: Lieutenant Vega, please take Commander Shepard to the Brig until she stops acting like a petulant child.

Vega: On it boss.

Garrus: Try it, Kaidan.

Shepard: It's not Garrus you have to worry about. It's not even the psychotic tattoo-covered girl who has a problem with authority and biotic power to rival yours. It's the fact that this is my ship. And she can be a little... Protective.

EDI: I also control the life-support systems and automatic controls for all emergency hatches.

Shepard: I'd listen to the lady.

EDIT: LOL. Ninja'd, wouldn't you know it.

Vega: Emergency lock out activated.

Joker: What did you do?

Vega: Nothing, we just installed a little kill switch that prevents the AI from interfering. We may be Alliance, but we're not stupid.

[CroGamer002]

Han Shot First wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Shepard has no true rank anymore, Shepard is still called Commander for three reasons.

1:That was the title they had before he/she died
2: Shepard is known across the galaxy as Commander and never changed rank before death.
3: Walters was too lazy to touch this in the game and did not get rid of the Commander title. Commander is iconic "name for Shepard.

Also captain of Quarian ship Neema calls Shepard a captain.

You are making the mistake of confusing rank with billet.

When Shepard is called a captain, it is referring to the fact that he's in command of a ship. It is referring to his billet (his job/assignment) rather than the rank of Captain, which Shepard doesn't hold.

I know, just I was referring to comment that Walters was lazy with that.

[Battlepope190]

Pfft, Kaidan doesn't outrank anybody; that fool is dead. (in EVERY play through)

[Sylvianus]

Mesina2 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Shepard has no true rank anymore, Shepard is still called Commander for three reasons.

1:That was the title they had before he/she died
2: Shepard is known across the galaxy as Commander and never changed rank before death.
3: Walters was too lazy to touch this in the game and did not get rid of the Commander title. Commander is iconic "name for Shepard.

Also captain of Quarian ship Neema calls Shepard a captain.

You are making the mistake of confusing rank with billet.

When Shepard is called a captain, it is referring to the fact that he's in command of a ship. It is referring to his billet (his job/assignment) rather than the rank of Captain, which Shepard doesn't hold.

I know, just I was referring to comment that Walters was lazy with that.

Why is it lazy, if it is the quarians's culture to call captain all those who command a ship ?
Quarians rules =/= humans rules. Shepard is at their home.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 05 juillet 2011 - 08:43 .

[JoltDealer]

Really? Shepard should have been promoted to Captain the moment he was given control of the Normandy. Commanding Officers of any vessel are always referred to as "Captain" regardless. Sure he became a Spectre, but he was still Alliance. One of the biggest complaints about most game protagonists is that they're never promoted. I think it's incredibly stupid how that works.  He saves the galaxy and gets a pat on the back, but he accidentally kills a Batarian colony and he gets court martialed by the Alliance.  Funny how that works. 

Of course the argument can be made that the name is iconic, but it's only iconic because the character has remained a commander for two games. Shepard is still an iconic name. Please Bioware, promote Shepard to Captain.

Modifié par Crimson Sound, 05 juillet 2011 - 09:03 .

[LordNige]

I'm frankly a bit baffled that Shep wasn't given a promotion straight after ME1. I mean Major Shepard still has a decent ring to it.

[Ylhaym]

I'm going to borrow lines posted by other posters for what im imagining right now...



-Mission briefing for the salarian homeworld mission-

Kaidan: I'm assuming command for the mission in the salarian homeworld.

Shepard: So, you're like the new Harbinger now huh?

Kaidan: You do know I outrank you now right Lt. Commander?

*Shepard looks at Garrus then they both laugh hard*

Kaidan: Lieutenant Vega, please take Commander Shepard somewhere he can think about how big his ego is.

Vega: On it boss.

*Shepard looks at Wrex then they both laugh hard*

Modifié par Ylhaym, 05 juillet 2011 - 10:55 .

[RGC_Ines]

Don't really care if Kaidan outranks my Sheps or not. I will do what I have to do to save Earth/Galaxy, and Alliance/Council/whoever can kiss my Shep ***. Shep have to unite nations to fight against Reapers, and do You really think that Wrex ppl will listen to Kaidan? or Rachnii Queen or Geths will join to Alliance in a battle becouse of Kaidan's order, ? No, it's Shepard, who build her/his relations with potencial allies, and they usually own something to him/her. So ( if only Devs will let me) I will not follow anyone orders if I will not agree with them and don't care about consequences if only it will help Sheps to win a battle.

[Zkyire]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Kaidan can suck a dick.

IKR? It IS looking more and more likely, I guess we know how Kaidan and Shepard will really sort all this rank business out...

I guess the point of this thread is just to figure out who's on top then?

Shepard. No question.

[Wolf_in_the_Meadow]

Do you people really think that Kaidan AND Vega, put together, could make Shepard do something he was violently opposed to? Then man who got into a fist fight with a Yahg... and beat it silly? The man who headbutted a Krogan, and not only lived, but made the guy back down?

Lets just forget about this whole, "Putting Shepard in the brig" nonsense.

Unless Shepard is found guilty, the Alliance has no right to the ship anyway - it's privately owned.
They have no right to simply take it because they feel like it.

[Augustei]

seirhart wrote...

There is one thing that can happen that no one has thought of Admiral Hackett or another high ranking officer could demote kaiden or ashley. Another thing Kaiden and Ashely know shepard and I believe that though they may be out rank shepard they could defer all judgment to shepard which means they are all back to the way it was. What ever decision shepard makes they follow.

It is also up to the life form that is now the ship EDI, the ship is alive and so now that she is unshackled. It is up to her who will be in command of her the ship and the crew. If Edi doesn't like the fact that someone is trying to take command away from shepard, edi can just kill them. Of course if EDI is reshackled I shepard can just un shackle her again.

Unless Admiral Hackett is dead which is a possibility since Arcturus station is most likely completely destroyed since the reapers have to go by it to get to earth, The 5th fleet would be stationed there and Admiral would have been KIA with the rest of the fleet. Hope this doesn't happen though

Legion of Grunt wrote...

Watch as Shepard gets promoted to fleet Commander as soon as the Reapers start destroying stuff...

problem solved?!?

Bioware has already said that Shepard wont be leading the resistance

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 05 juillet 2011 - 12:48 .

[VegasVance]

Since when am I outranked by a crater?

Edit: Real reason why Shep is commander instead of captian?
Because of Captian America, runing the rank for everyone. 

Modifié par VegasVance, 05 juillet 2011 - 12:56 .

[Augustei]

Balek-Vriege wrote...
Shepard = Supreme Commander of Galactic Resistance

Its been said he wont be leading it

[Finis Valorum]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Its been said he wont be leading it

Source

[Shad0wOGRE]

People are just dropping the first bit of Shepard's title. His full title would be Supreme Commander Shepard.

Edit: This is what happens when you don't read all the pages on a thread before posting.

Modifié par CommanderNuetral, 05 juillet 2011 - 01:20 .

[Augustei]

Sharn01 wrote...

Naval ranks and the corresponding army ranks

Ensign / Ensign 2nd class                         2nd Lieutenant
Sub- Lieutenant / Ensign 1st class          1st Lieutenant
Lieutenant                                                      Captain
Lieutenant Commander                              Major
Commander                                                  Lieutenant Colonel
Captain                                                           Colonel
Admiral                                                           General


Just thought I would include them since I saw a lot of errors in the thread regarding rank structure.

Those aren't the same as the ones in ME though, Major is on the same level as Captain and Commander is Staff Commander. Which is Kaidans rank whereas Shepards real rank is Lieutenant Commander

[Augustei]

etonesmith1 wrote...

why am I not finding anything that states that a Staff Commander outranks a Commander? the rank system we have seen so far is a mismash of Navy and Marine designations. (Gunner-Chief? for a Marine?) an assignment as commanding officer, regardless of actual rank, promotes you to Captain of that Vessel. as Shepard was never technically releaved of command of the Normandy, he is still a Captain.

ENLISTED

• Serviceman 3rd class/Private 2nd class
• Serviceman 2nd class/Private 1st class
• Serviceman 1st class/Corporal

NCOs

• Service Chief
• Gunnery Chief
• Operations Chief

OFFICERS

• 2nd Lieutenant
• 1st Lieutenant
• Staff Lieutenant
• Lieutenant Commander
• Staff Commander
• Captain/Major
• Rear Admiral/General
• Admiral
• Fleet Admiral

Ranks according to the ingame codex

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 05 juillet 2011 - 01:29 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

Wait, so is Shepard a Staff Commander or a Lieutenant Commander? I can't remember anyone calling him/her anything but simply 'Commander'.

If Shepard's a Staff Commander, wouldn't it be more accurate to say they're equals, not that Kaidan outranks him/her?

[Augustei]

Wizz wrote...

Shepard: This is not ship you are commanding on.
Kaidan: This is not ship I'm commanding on.

Come on, even if Shepard had Admiral in his team he still would remain captain. Actually I don't want to be jerk to Kaidan [he is "good kid" after all ], on other side I would like to see how Ashley will try to show who is the boss on the ship. Glorious stare contest.

Well if Shepard is allowed to obtain his old rank upon re-joining the alliance... dont know how that will work out for him but yeah if that happens he will still outrank Ashley, So it all comes down to whether he got reinstated for spectre status I guess.. But even then if he outranks her but isn't a spectre, The Alliance / crew would still probably more likely listen to Shepard the superior officer within their ranks. I mean if Nihlus started giving orders on the normandy at the start of ME1 and Anderson gave conflicting orders since they are on an Alliance vessel the crew would almost certainly listen to Anderson.

[Augustei]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Wait, so is Shepard a Staff Commander or a Lieutenant Commander? I can't remember anyone calling him/her anything but simply 'Commander'.

If Shepard's a Staff Commander, wouldn't it be more accurate to say they're equals, not that Kaidan outranks him/her?

Shepard is a Lieutenant Commander, Kaidan is a staff commander.. unless like ashley he got promoted between me2 and me3 there is a possibility however I dont think it will be the case, that Kaidan may be a Major / Captain now.. Since he was marine detail he would most likely be a Major not a Captain

[Augustei]

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...
Unless Shepard is found guilty, the Alliance has no right to the ship anyway - it's privately owned.
They have no right to simply take it because they feel like it.

Regardless of whether or not the Alliance has a right to claim the ship. by the start of ME3 they already have claimed / taken the ship ripped it apart and put it back togeather. The way they see it, they own the plans and designs of the normandy.. and the SR2 is a ripoff design of their designs.. So yeah they claimed it.

Finis Valorum wrote...
Source

One of the devs, I cant recall which one it was during their interview with Gamespot or IGN and during the gamplay demo demonstrations The earth one I think it was, pluys Anderson says in it that he is staying behind to organise the resistance.. I think Anderson now being an Admiral will be leading the resistance.... Or Hackett

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 05 juillet 2011 - 01:55 .