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[FeralEwok]

lumen11 wrote...

Miranda has a 'nurse-patient complex' with Shepherd (again, there is probably a better word).

Florence Nightingale Syndrome

[PrinceLionheart]

Miranda has major Self-Esteem issues. I personally think that's the reason her relationship with Jacob went south. Of the ME2 LIs for MaleShep, I prefer her over Jack and Tali, but Ashley is way more well-rounded. She has understandable flaws, trust issues with Aliens, slightly closeminded, but none of these really gives off the aura that she needs to be "fixed" or that she NEEDS to be in a relationship with Shepard. I kinda like that independence in her.

Deep down, that's probably the biggest reason why I was dissapointed Samara or Kasumi weren't romances. Tali, Jack, and Miranda all felt way to co-dependent on Shep for my tastes.

[Made Nightwing]

Ash won the heart of every classical literature student in the world the second she started quoting Tennyson. 'Dat Ulysses.

[ThePwener]

Do what I do. Play the damn game the fun way - no metagaming. Love triangles tend to make things more interesting.

[ilovemesometurian]

I love Ashley because she's tough and grit, has a strong backbone, is faithful to something (in this case the alliance and her religion) appreciates honor and family and is a good fighter. She has a bit of mistrust issue with aliens, needs to feel some kind of connection with shepard and recently is hurt because her love for shepard has been rekindled after his death.

I love Miranda because she's an independant woman with a capital I. She's intelligent, good looking, confident and persuasive. She has the markings of a great leader, is an advanced biotic and tech user and is extremely loyal when you gain her trust for the right reasons. She feels like her accomplishments are meaningless because she was "crafted" and not born and she is confident because she sees her strengths and weaknesses are both just a result of crossing good genes. Like Ashely, she appreciates family.

I love both these women. Seeing them both grow as characters (Ashley from a sarcastic teammate to your lover in battle and Miranda from cold and distant to open and trusting) is a marvelous sight in either game and they're both amazing. All the romances have their sparks and Miranda and Ashley are both top notch. I too wish Samara and Kasumi were romancable though =)

This just shows that BioWare can make their women sexually appealing and classy and tough all at the same time. How can you not love that?? =D

[echo352]

naledgeborn wrote...

fenix8081 wrote...

Regarding these two, I've never romanced them, so I'll let their LI fans duel it out.

It'll be hard. Most Miri fans are either fans of Ash themselves or indifferent towards her. Vice-versa. You want a duel? Try pitting Miri, Jack, and Tali fans against eachother. Hulls will be breached.

Take pictures!

[CuseGirl]

This just shows that BioWare can make their women sexually appealing and classy and tough all at the same time. How can you not love that?? =D

It's a matter of opinion. For me personally, I'm a PS3 user, so I didn't play ME-1 and have no connection to Ash in anyway. As far as I know, she was a loyal partner in battle and now she's salty cuz I'm working with Cerberus.

I met Miranda under odd circumstances: she pops up in a elevator and blows Wilson's head off right in front of me. She had my trust IMMEDIATELY. And while she seemed awfully clinical, she showed she did have feelings inside that overly ambitious and procedural head of hers. I actually liked her more when I realized she was too trusting of Niket, it showed she trusted and thought like a human. And while I would like less ass shots of her, there's nothing better than a smart brunette who wants to be on topB)B)

[mb94]

ShepardsIdol wrote...

Miranda is a loyal Cerberus agent. Heck, she's the Illusive Man's right hand when it comes to operations and one of the select few who has ever met him face to face. She always speaks of Cerberus as an organization with great intentions who just have a bad image, going so far as to tell Shepard that she Wished Cerberus had more people like him, people not joining out of xenophobia. And then the suicide mission comes along. She was willing to throw all of her rank and status with Cerberus away to stay with Shepard out of either admiration or love. The way i see it, anyone who's willing to go that far for me deserves my attention. Ash is still my second choice as an LI but it just seems like Miranda is more of a personality i admire and would be interested to discover more about. Not to mention she doesnt spout off a crap ton of poetry.

pretty much this.
well that, and I told ashley to shove it everytime she insulted the aliens in me1.

[Luigitornado]

Why not just do a second play through so you can chose both V: ?

[Varus Praetor]

I was a slight Ashley fan in ME1 and she was my LI in 2/3 play throughs. However, she REALLY rubbed me the wrong was in ME2 and I've blacklisted her (as much as I'm given the ability to) for ME3.

So my totally biased opinion is....Miranda.

[Melra]

Miwi, I don't plan to change, I tried Liara in ME1, but after that. It's been just Miwi. I don't plan to try any of the other LIs. Why change, when you got the best already?

[Ieldra]

ilovemesometurian wrote...
I love Ashley because she's tough and grit, has a strong backbone, is faithful to something (in this case the alliance and her religion) appreciates honor and family and is a good fighter. She has a bit of mistrust issue with aliens, needs to feel some kind of connection with shepard and recently is hurt because her love for shepard has been rekindled after his death.

I love Miranda because she's an independant woman with a capital I. She's intelligent, good looking, confident and persuasive. She has the markings of a great leader, is an advanced biotic and tech user and is extremely loyal when you gain her trust for the right reasons. She feels like her accomplishments are meaningless because she was "crafted" and not born and she is confident because she sees her strengths and weaknesses are both just a result of crossing good genes. Like Ashely, she appreciates family.

I love both these women. Seeing them both grow as characters (Ashley from a sarcastic teammate to your lover in battle and Miranda from cold and distant to open and trusting) is a marvelous sight in either game and they're both amazing. All the romances have their sparks and Miranda and Ashley are both top notch. I too wish Samara and Kasumi were romancable though =)

This just shows that BioWare can make their women sexually appealing and classy and tough all at the same time. How can you not love that?? =D

I may not agree with you about Miranda in every detail, but yes, Ashley and Miranda are both great characters. Easily the best of the female characters in the game, LIs or not. How, indeed, can you not love them both? I have my preference and I know why - Miranda is less traditional than Ashley - but never let it be said that they're not both great.

Melrache wrote...
I don't plan to try any of the other LIs [but Miranda]. Why change,
when you got the best already?

Yes, Miranda is the best, and since both my Shepard and Miranda won't settle for anything less, they're made for each other. Even so, in ME1 my Shepard hadn't found Miranda yet, and Ashley is nice, too. I'm curious about how the love triangle will play out in ME3. My Shepard moved on, but I think Ashley will refuse to see it that way at first.

[BatmanPWNS]

Ashley, I just can't stand Miranda.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Out of those two, Miranda. No doubt there, as Ashley is pushy and annoying,

[MsSihaKatieKrios]

I want both. Both women are tough, independent, and can kick your ass in the blink of an eye. Yet they both have a tender, vulnerable and loving side to their character.

[Rogue Unit]

Miranda.

[Made Nightwing]

MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

I want both. Both women are tough, independent, and can kick your ass in the blink of an eye. Yet they both have a tender, vulnerable and loving side to their character.

Katie, you have a gift for summing up complex arguments with a few well chosen words.

[Greenlock]

this thread is pointless...evryone has one for their likeing... az it goes for LIs my number one..are 2... Ash and Jack(i dig chicks that do poetry:P) second place Miranda and third place for Liara and Tali...(im not a xenofob its about character...personality...bioware makes all their lead females HOT)

[jlb524]

If I could romance either of them...I'd prefer Miranda. Just my opinion though.

She's mysterious and intelligent...as in "I can speak the Salarian language" intelligent. Book smarts always get me.

Modifié par jlb524, 10 juillet 2011 - 11:33 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Both are excellent characters. Really, you can't go wrong with either of them.

[Kenzie1100]

It's a tough choice, it would have been Miranda before I saw Ashley's redesign. My plan now is just to play through and cross that bridge when I come to it.

[jtav]

Ashley. I find her romance much stronger and more romantic.

[A-K-M]

Ashley, by a mile

http://youtu.be/Ph5h50O5tJk?hd=1

http://youtu.be/LDH4qluWOIc?hd=1

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[wizkid1696]

Hooray for human romances instead of strange, alien love!

[GuitarShredUK]

Miranda for me. I can't really say much for Ashley LI/romance wise, as I went with Liara in both Maleshep and Femshep playthroughs continuing through ME -> ME2 (that may have been one of the key reasons why I picked her (Liara)...teehee).

That said, in Ashley's defence I have always picked her over Kaidan when deciding who to support/leave on Virmire, and as such Ash always pops up as the VS in ME2; which is of course pretty poorly done in terms of impact and quality but really should be rectified in ME3. That said, I agree completely with ilovemesometurian on his analysis on Ash's character, her gritty confidence and self-belief really make her a more interesting character when compared to Kaidan out of the VSs. 

LI wise, Miri would trump Ash, not saying that I think Ash is a worse character in comparison just that I feel a lot stronger for Miri. 

Modifié par GuitarShredUK, 10 juillet 2011 - 02:39 .