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[fenix8081]

Alright, so Bioware has said that Shepard's that have not stayed faithful to their ME1 love interests in ME2 will face some sort of consequences in ME3.  What shape do you think these issues will take?  Is it going to be something that really impacts the plot, or just a simple scene where you're forced to make a choice, like in ME1 when the VS confronts you about your interests in both them and Liara?

Plus, in LotSB, Liara doesn't seem that upset about your other love interest, but asks about it.  Will it be along similar lines for other characters in ME3, or more aggresive?  Maybe dependent on the character?  Will it be different depending on who you romanced?  I'm hoping for some knock-down, drag-out fights here maybe along the lines of what almost happened with Jack and Miranda.

Any other thoughts on what the consequences might be or what you hope they'll be?

Modifié par fenix8081, 05 juillet 2011 - 01:54 .

[DarkDragon777]

Well, I guess it will be dependent on the character. I mean, soft Liara would probably be more understanding and forgive you, Ashley would probably be furious, etc.

[fenix8081]

That would totally fit their characters, but that's what I'm wondering. Will these consequences actually vary...because that seems like a lot of work.

[Repearized Miranda]

It'll probably be along the lines of ME2 if you didn't "properly" diffuse a situation. I would hate for Miranda to die if I picked someone else (although I probably want to kill myself if I ever make THAT decision)

It'll more or less be the "make a choice" where the rejected one leaves with the neutral option being "Let's just be friends" (as if that negates being rejected, but that is the most used response). There may be some kind of fight though just to "keep interest." They seem to be aiming for it with the way they're pushing the "AHC" thing.

[fenix8081]

That's probably pretty close to the mark. However, I hope they don't do the whole "loyal=lives" thing again. I thought that was pretty weak, although it was a good way to get rid of squad members I didn't care to see in ME3.

[CheeseEnchilada]

I'd guess Shepard will get the chance to defuse the situation and explain things to the LIs at the beginning. If you don't, tensions will build and someone might snap. Depending on the character, it could be anything from a strongly worded rant to Shepard to an impressive biotic display.

And I would expect some LIs to have bigger problems with each other. Ashley vs Jack and Kaidan vs Thane would be incredibly different experiences, and I hope the writing reflects that.

Of course, I'm saying this expecting every LI to be a squadmate and get equal treatment. For all we know, Thane could die halfway through Shepard's explanation to Kaidan.

Modifié par CheeseEnchilada, 05 juillet 2011 - 03:39 .

[Repearized Miranda]

fenix8081 wrote...

That's probably pretty close to the mark. However, I hope they don't do the whole "loyal=lives" thing again. I thought that was pretty weak, although it was a good way to get rid of squad members I didn't care to see in ME3.

Oh, yeah. Imagine how pissed everybody would be, but some wanted to see the "WPE," and were mad because "you had to 'earn' that ending. (And most know better)

[Repearized Miranda]

xnoxiousx wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

It'll probably be along the lines of ME2 if you didn't "properly" diffuse a situation. I would hate for Miranda to die if I picked someone else (although I probably want to kill myself if I ever make THAT decision)

It'll more or less be the "make a choice" where the rejected one leaves with the neutral option being "Let's just be friends" (as if that negates being rejected, but that is the most used response). There may be some kind of fight though just to "keep interest." They seem to be aiming for it with the way they're pushing the "AHC" thing.

Sounds stupid and unreal. If i was a women i would kick the guy in the nuts and leave him if he cheated but in me3 they all suck up to you and let you choose between them.

Good thing I broke off both my previous relationships and the feeling was quite mutual when I ironically replied, "Let's be friends." I dumped Liara for Thane, but decided not to persue which he thought was best. (I didn't want to feel like I was replacing his wife) Besides, I knew who I was going after when ME2 started, but couldn't do anything obviously.

[S.A.K]

Ashley: Shepard WTF is Tali doing on your bed?!?

[KujiPR]

Probably along the lines of "You cheated on me!" no help for you! Hope the Reapers roast your cheating arse to oblivion!

[Raiil]

That issue will probably be 'how could you move on' for the VS (since we can't start something until afterwards) and a 'I still have feelings for you' for Liara.

I don't think having mission destroying consequences would be appropriate. And I'm still annoyed that they call it cheating, when in one case, the other party was going to go out with someone, which they admit after they blow up on you and Shepard can flat out declare that the relationship is over to Kelly. The relationship seemed DOA, at least to me.

I'll admit that I'm mostly looking forward to potential lulz in the Epic Battle of Masculine Passive Aggressive (I went from a paragon-manced Kaidan to Thane).

What I'm interested in seeing is there's extra dialogue if you went from human to alien or vice versa, particularly with a Shep who renegaded Kaidan towards pro-humans or agreed with Ashley over the alien issue.

[Saberchic]

This has me wondering as well. I mean, they said there would be consequences, so I took that as the orig. LI wouldn't get back with you no matter what, or that maybe they wouldn't help you much with the fight.

However, in LotSB, it didn't seem like a big thing at all. My Shep romanced Liara and then got with Tali (cuz I biffed the Miranda one! Doh!). There was a "talk" but then it seemed they reconciled???

Maybe BW has plans to complicate things further in game because I don't see the consequences yet.

[rapscallioness]

I wouldn't mind a lil scuffle. just a lil one...my FemShep stayed faithful to Kaidan (in the first playthru..hehe) I would like to see him work for it. I mean, I love my Kaidan, but I'm in no mood to just run back into his arms, everything's fine after he dumped FemShep soooo unceremoniously on Horizon. (Kaidan lovers..plz..I understand the justifications.I'm a Kaidan lover, too.) Poor Kaidan all that..but what about Shep?

I'm fully prepared to forgive him, but I'd like to see...him put forth some effort. I don't want everything to be like Horizon never happened...hey, no biggie.

I'd also like to see him have a lil competition...without me necessarily having to be unfaithful to him. It'd be nice if someone would hit on my FemShep for a change (besides Liara). Someone else initiate. My FemShep gets tired of being the one to always initiate....

I'd like to see some sparks, definitely. But consequences? To the game? I don't like that character dying because I dumped them thing. loyalty =lives. It's always more complicated than that. It's alot to ask from a video game, but hey since we're talking about it...

Liara at least has some of that "complicated" stuff going on. My Shep let her down easy, but imo, she's still pretty much madly in love w/ Shep.

All this romance and love...it's complicated stuff. ppl get weird. raw. I'd like to see some tense banter about it sometimes. Maybe femshep is with Kaidan, but some other character is trying to swipe her away from him. If you have them both on a mission with you...it could make for some fun banter moments.

I don't want it affecting whether or not we get the Reapers, or how we get them, or them dying.

Even if you "cheated" on them, although I can't really call it cheating...uh..in the end there should be opportunities to work it out. Still have the LI you really want.

[Sticky Controller]

This scenario is highly unlikely, but I would surely be upset if Kaidan sniped Garrus from afar. Revenge would be in order. Hopefully, Garrus would survive a shot to the head like that missle to the face.

[Robhuzz]

My fear is that this will be yet another discussion that can be solved by clicking a certain Paragon or Renegade dialogue option. Shepard leaves with chosen LI, rejected LI forgets all about it.

A real fight between 2 LI's is also very unlikely. Perhaps the more immature LI's (not mentioning any names, don't want to cause flaming here) will blame Shepard's other LI instead of Shepard him/herself. To be quite honest, the rage should focus completely on Shepard, he/she cheated, not the other LI. So yeah I'm hoping for some consquences other than a heated discussion that can be solved by a high level paragon/renegade check.

Plus, in LotSB, Liara doesn't seem that upset about your other love interest, but asks about it.  Will it be along similar lines for other characters in ME3, or more aggresive?  Maybe dependent on the character?

I'd imagine that was because of the fact that Lotsb was added later as DLC and so couldn't have a lot of interaction with the rest of the game and the crew. While it's true she didn't get THAT upset (Minus on the balcony after fighting Vasir) I'd imagine telling her you want Liara instead of the ME2 LI and then keep the romance with your ME2 LI going would make Liara pretty angry in ME3 since you're still cheating on her.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 05 juillet 2011 - 06:05 .

[GoG ToXiC]

I'm actually kind of upset about this, simply because the romance option I wanted in ME1 (Tali) wasn't an option, and I wanted the achievement for completing the romance subplot. I guess I'll just Ashley to GTFO.

[Ryzaki]

Ugh.

Shepard did not cheat on the VS.

Only person you *can* cheat on is Liara. And that's only if Shep gets back with her in LoTSB and keeps sleeping with his/her ME2 LI.

[rapscallioness]

LOL @sticky controller...but no, no sniping from afar. bad Kaidan. Hahahaha. More like some snipey wordplay in the banter. Maybe a biotic shove or two. Simple stuff.

I gotta say that was pretty amazing the way Garrus survived that missile to the face. It scared the heck outta me tho. I thought I was gonna lose him.

Hey @Robhuzz...yeah a simple Para. or Rene choice would be disappointing. As far as the anger all focusing on Shep...yeah, they'll be angry with Shep, but they still care. They don't care about that other LI. That's usually the way it is in love triangles. They'll be angry with the cheater...if we must call it that...but they'll despise the rival.

I'm not saying this scenario will happen. I'm just throwing it out there for kicks.

Frankly, I wouldn't want to be a rival in love against Shep!

Also, I have no idea what Kaidan did or did not do after Horizon (I don't count the drinks w/ the doctor lady because Shep was technically dead......I still didn't like reading about it tho.) But what he did after Horizon..who knows. He could have had an awkward kiss with a scaly assassin. Then felt terribly guilty because he wanted to dump them, but they're dying and all.....

As for the other LI, Shep's been locked up..or held for what? 6 months, or so? And from all indications it does not look good for her. I don't feel like Shep cheated. I feel like Shep got dumped. So, really, I don't understand these "consequences". Unless they're amusing and fun.

[RGC_Ines]

I think, that in ME3 shouldn't be any consequences, honest talk between ME1 LI and Shepard, that's all what two mature person needs to resolve theirs problems..
To be honest I still don't buy this "cheater" thing, and don't get why there should be consequences in ME3, if Shepard moved on in ME2. For me, relationship between my Shep and Kaidan is over, and it's only Devs fault, that I wasn't able to make it clearly in ME2. ( while those players who romanced Liara had this opportunity in LotSB DLC) Kaidan moved on, tried to start a new relationship and I think , that should be continue in ME3. I would gladly to see him happy with this doctor from Citadel or other nice girl, while my Shep will stay alone (my canon Shep hadn't new LI in ME2, maybe she will have something in ME3),or with Thane ( well, as long as he is alive).

[DaveExclamationMarkYognaut]

Relationships actually impacting the plot? This isn't a Witcher game! Go back to GOG, heathen!

[TheMakoMaster]

different consequences for each LI would be cool. I don't like when it feels so formulaic.   I know it has to be, but the devs could hide it better.

Modifié par TheMakoMaster, 05 juillet 2011 - 02:36 .

[ArcticMan94]

Explosive Detesticularization

[Sarcastic Tasha]

*Kaidan and Garrus confront Shepard*
Shepard: Do I really have to choose, maybe we could...
Garrus: That's it I'm leaving.
Kaidan: Me too.
Liara: I feel bad for Kaidan and Garrus but I am glad you chose me.
Shepard: o_O