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[Chiklis]

the sex in this game is barely PG-13. You are a bad parent.

[TallBearNC]

Yes the sex scenes can be disabled with the toolset, but IMO that's the LEAST of parents worry... the blood the gore the violence. Sex is something.. umm.. NATURAL... murder, assasinations, robbery.. is FAR worse IMO. Our country (USA) has a WARPED sense of what's morally right and wrong in many areas...

...but back OT.. this is a mature game..and I agree.. BRING ON more sex scenes.. hell im going to mod it so they don't show only once, but EVERY time you do it you can always hit esc to bypass it. I think the **** house (pearl) needs some more as well.



I just may make a rated R version of some of the scenes. I mean with NO clothes on and ALL the pvt parts LOL, but I would probably have to post it to my own personal website. Not sure EA/BW would allow such mod on this site I'm gay but hell.. I'll help everyone.. nude females and males FTW!



We also need a new character design tool so we can not only modify faces but bodies as well.. lean to athletic to muscular to fat, etc... height.. blah blah. The one that comes with the game SUCKS

[tanstaafl28]

I haven't even explored those possibilities yet. Depending on how old the son is, he may not either.

[Malificis]

Lol i dont know where to start so i wont.

OP is such an idiot.

IMO make sure he always has zavran in the party. and oghren.

[ArminW68]

One thing I've been asking myself for a long time. Maybe I'm simply too uninvolved, since I've left the Catholic Church 23 years ago (and have never really been a practitioner before that), but I've always wondered about the logic.

Can someone explain to me why, from a "Christian" point of view, beheadings are completely OK, but people making love ain't?

I love this game, I'm on my 4th playthrough, but Iwouldn't really let my kids play it. Heck, I know several 20-year olds I wouldn't really feel comfortable with playing this :-P

And it's not even the blood and gore (the sex scenes are utterly harmless and actually so forcibly "tasteful" they are cringeworthy at best). It's the dark story, the moral choices and the amount of atrocities that happen and might even be committed by the player...

[Varenus Luckmann]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Oh dear.

This.

[adembroski11]

ArminW68 wrote...

One thing I've been asking myself for a long time. Maybe I'm simply too uninvolved, since I've left the Catholic Church 23 years ago (and have never really been a practitioner before that), but I've always wondered about the logic.
Can someone explain to me why, from a "Christian" point of view, beheadings are completely OK, but people making love ain't?
I love this game, I'm on my 4th playthrough, but Iwouldn't really let my kids play it. Heck, I know several 20-year olds I wouldn't really feel comfortable with playing this :-P
And it's not even the blood and gore (the sex scenes are utterly harmless and actually so forcibly "tasteful" they are cringeworthy at best). It's the dark story, the moral choices and the amount of atrocities that happen and might even be committed by the player...

To start this off, I believe in God, and I hold a Christian point of view, but I'm non-practicing and don't generally attend church (except when my girlfriend and I are visiting her Catholic parents). I have my own ideas on God, and they have a kind of Taoist twist to them.

The question your asking is a very involved one. The "violences is ok but sex isn't" statement is very simplistic and it's an argument made mostly by people who've never really put any thought into it.

First off, violence is not morally ambiguous. It's very easy to watch a violent film and remind a child that violence is wrong, period, end of story (I have my personal arguments with that philosophy, but it's wrong in enough cases that a child can be taunt an absolute and be able to seperate it when he's old enough to get into the philosophy of it).

That's a much tougher argument to make with sex. You can't tell a kid who just saw a porn that sex is wrong, can you?

Furthermore 90%+ of the violence in this game is justifyable. The protagonist is rarely the initiator of it, is in most cases defending themselves, and is fighting, usually, demonstrably evil enemies.

On the other hand, all of the sex... 100% of it... is, from a Christian point of view, immoral.

And finally, the biggest reason Violence is OK but Sex is not: You can take sex out of all mediums of entertainment and still find entertainment. Movies, books, and (especially) video games would be damn boring without it. We, as a society, subconsciously understand this.

[ArminW68]

adembroski11 wrote...
Furthermore 90%+ of the violence in this game is justifyable. The protagonist is rarely the initiator of it, is in most cases defending themselves, and is fighting, usually, demonstrably evil enemies.

Here I disagree. And it's NOT only the blood and gore and the fighting as I stated.
You can *choose* to wipe out everyone in the Circle tower just "to be on the safe side", including innocents and children. You can *choose* to side with the Werewolves and slaughter an entire colony of elves. You can *choose* to be pragmatic about the anvil of the void, a thing that utterly destroys people, body and soul, in an "end justifies means" approach. You can kill Connor, just because yo're too lazy to look for an alternative. And you can kill *many* opoonents who have surrendered and who you could just as easily let go, simply because you choose to.

adembroski11 wrote...
On the other hand, all of the sex... 100% of it... is, from a Christian point of view, immoral.

Yeah, but WHY? Is there any rational point to that apart from an outdated medieval moral theology?

The point being, you can makes dozens of utterly unethical, appaling and evil choices in the game, but I can't see *anything* unethical, immoral or bad about sleeping with sweet Leliana

Modifié par ArminW68, 03 décembre 2009 - 01:49 .

[DarkOsprey26]

What is most amusing about all this is that all of you tore off on a moral and immoral debate, while the OP only posted a total of TWO times in the entire thread (insert laughter here). He got his answer and yet people kept posting, makes you wonder..

[adembroski11]

We all have opinions, many of us (myself included) can't get enough of hearing ourselves spout what we consider wisdom. Personally, I think it's a good thing. 1 out of 100 people who read this will be motivated to learn a bit more about the subject, dig a bit deeper, and come away with a more informed, defensible, principled opinion, whichever way he/she leans.



People being opinionated and wanting to should their opinions from the rooftops doesn't bother me one bit. What bothers me is that most of the people who do never study their opinions, never look at the philosophy behind what they're talking about. If you're liberal and don't know who Jean Jacques Rousseau is, if you're conservative and don't know who Thomas Payne is (or, just as important, vica virca), then you haven't looked deep enough to truly understand what it is you believe. If you haven't studied it, you can't possibly understand it (teenagers, especially, tend to give every issue a quick glance and go on gut. Their positions sound perfectly reasonable to them because they have no idea how to look any deeper. This is why social change that is primarily pushed by "Youth Movements" generally end in disaster).

[cole.readman]

is there a way to remove them? i
f so i would be wanting to know how

[Gorath Alpha]

Please do not resurrect long-dead corpses of subjects such as this. Just start a new post saying that you found nothing newer than a year ago, when there was none (next time, next question, I suppose).

If anyone developed a Mod, the place to ask would be in the Toolset, not here.