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[CaptainRegor]

 Bioware have confirmed thise following squad members in ME3:

Kaidan Alenko/Ashley Williams
Tali'Zorah
Liara T'soni
Garrus Vakarian
James Vega

now Bioware have said that its a warstory with not nessescarly a set squad but they have also said that they like to small squad with deeper relationships, and for romace part you can continue whatever romance you had.

But outside James they are all from ME 1 what is this hate for ME2 squad members? Garrus and Tali have been a part of Shepards team all time but outside of that why are there only ME1 characthers as Squad? 
What no taking one of your favorite squad members from ME2 back with you?
Just meeting them around thats all:unsure:!

(yeah its better than nothting but that is not the point the point is that its no squad members from Me2!)
(oh please dont comment my English it is writing wrongs and/or grammar wrongs I KNOW im not sick or anyting I simpley just have English as a secound langue, I got big understanding for English but when writing it yourself then trouble comes)

Modifié par CaptainRegor, 05 juillet 2011 - 08:32 .

[DWH1982]

I'm thinking the fact that the ME2 characters can all die might be a reason why they're not on the squad.

Bioware more or less said that Ash/Kaidan/Liara weren't on the squad because they needed to be alive for ME3. Having a lot of ME2 characters on the squad would mean that anyone who lost people during the suicide run would have to play through ME3 without a full squad. I can't help but wonder if it also might not make things more difficult for Bioware, to have a main squad full of people who can be either dead or alive.

I suspect the only reasons Garrus and Tali or on the squad is becuase those characters have a very large fan base.

EDIT: Also keep in mind that, as far as I know, we don't know if Ash/Kai, Tali, Garrus, Liara, and James is the full squad or not. There might be one or two other characters who can join. I will be surprised if we don't at least have the choice to put Miranda on the squad, given how hard it is to kill her off in ME2.

Modifié par DWH1982, 05 juillet 2011 - 08:34 .

[CaptainRegor]

yeah but one or two charachters from ME 2 shoud return in Squad anyway hey if all squad members dies you cant import to ME3 because you are dead, 2 squad members needs to be alive

[RGC_Ines]

CaptainRegor wrote...

yeah but one or two charachters from ME 2 shoud return in Squad anyway hey if all squad members dies you cant import to ME3 because you are dead, 2 squad members needs to be alive

Yeah but for different ppl they are different companions. Two SM survivors aren't " set in stone" . If ME2 companions ( except Tali and Garrus), had to be as a perma team members in ME3, Devs will had to decide who those two are. And it would be epic fail, becouse it's players choice, not Devs. So ME1 team members as a companions for ME3 and ME2 companions cameo make more sense for me.

[jtav]

I suspect what annoys some people is that Tali and Garrus are apparently full squad members again, despite being just as mortal as Thane or Mordin. The whole thing is beginning to feel like ME1: Part II, with those who were attached to ME2-exclusive squad members getting the short end of the stick. They really should bring back at least one or two introduced in the second game.

[Siansonea]

You left off the diacritical marks in "Déjà Vu". With French words, these marks are pretty important.

It's interesting that James Vega is Human Wrex. Big Stupid Jellyfish Tank. He has Combat Role written all over him.

Personally, I hope Garrus and Tali are optiona/temporaryl. I've had enough of those two being Shepard groupies. Don't you two have your own lives? Geez, what's with dextro aliens anyway. At least Liara and the VS took a game-long break from cleaving to Shepard like he's some kind of player character or something...

[Siansonea]

jtav wrote...

I suspect what annoys some people is that Tali and Garrus are apparently full squad members again, despite being just as mortal as Thane or Mordin. The whole thing is beginning to feel like ME1: Part II, with those who were attached to ME2-exclusive squad members getting the short end of the stick. They really should bring back at least one or two introduced in the second game.

I'd love to have Mordin and Miranda back full-time.

[Zjarcal]

Siansonea II wrote...

Personally, I hope Garrus and Tali are optiona/temporaryl. I've had enough of those two being Shepard groupies. Don't you two have your own lives? Geez, what's with dextro aliens anyway. 

Considering Tali may well be exhiled, I don't she think has that much of a life left really, so helping Shepard is as good as anything else.

Since my favorite squaddies are indeed Tali and Garrus, I love to have them back but I would definitely love to have some squadmates from ME2 back as well. Miranda would be at the top of the list.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 05 juillet 2011 - 09:16 .

[Heather Cline]

Yeah I didn't use garrus beyond his personal mission. I didn't use Tali beyond her personal mission in ME2. I used her a lot in ME1 but that was because she was a tech specialist and was extremely useful against the geth and for opening locked storage boxes.

ME2 she was next to useless. Jack was awesome but kinda useless since she only had warp ammo and shockwave both crappy powers though I loved her personality. Thane was useful for the entirety of the insanity run in ME2. Samara rocked my socks in ME2 and Miranda was plain awesome in ME2. Zaeed... no thanks, he was just as useless as Garrus. Kasumi was fun to play with on her personal mission but useless afterwards. Frankly. I only used a handful of characters in ME2. Grunt was never used outside his personal mission. Mordin was never used outside of the Horizon mission and his personal mission as well. Jacob only got used for his personal mission and other missions until I got Samara and Thane and Miranda.

If they were to bring back any useful characters it would be Miranda, Samara and Thane due to their unique power set up for battle. Jack because she just is awesome personality wise.

Modifié par Heather Cline, 05 juillet 2011 - 09:17 .

[Zjarcal]

Personally I found all squadmates useful in ME2. They all had their strengths and weaknesses. I chose who to use based on who I liked (or which mission I was on) not so much who had the best abilities (which was none really since I wouldn't rank any of their abilities as best or necessary).

Modifié par Zjarcal, 05 juillet 2011 - 09:23 .

[Heather Cline]

Zjar, I never found many of my squad mates to have any really useful talents even on insanity run. I used Miranda, Thane, and Samara almost exclusively because of the difficulty of battles and needing to set up singularities and warps while playing an adept. More often than not I found myself having to revive characters like Grunt because he never stayed in cover or Mordin because he was too weak to take a hit. Jacob was next to useless, Jack had awesome personality but her powers sucked over all... I could go on. But you get the picture.

I think if they bring back any characters Miranda, Thane and Samara would be the top of my list. I mean sure I play the game for the story but when trying to do an insanity run to get that achievement it really points out the need to focus on party members that will help you get through without dying too much or too often and having to restart the mission.

Modifié par Heather Cline, 05 juillet 2011 - 09:28 .

[Tommy6860]

I wouldn't call it hate, but it seems to be unbalanced as to who is definitely returning in ME3, when considering ME1 and ME 2 characters.

Liara is must for the "Déjà Vu" part, that's just my personal preference. I love Samara, but since I "have to" have Liara, she would be redundant. ME2 had 12 possible squad choices, I am thinking (hoping actually) there will be the same in ME3.

Therefore, I say:

- Kaiden/Ashley are a must (obviously dependent on who didn't make it through ME).
- Tali
- Garrus
- Miranda (is a must)
- Thane
- Legion, is a must and just seems to have too big of a role to play with the Geth still part of the mix.
- Grunt or Wrex
- Kasumi

I know having Legion, Tali and Kasumi would leave the squad choices a bit heavy on the tech-ability side, but I really like those three.

How about a fem Turian in place of Garrus?

Then add new characters for a little extra spice to the story. Since James Vega is in this, maybe at least two more new characters.

Modifié par Tommy6860, 05 juillet 2011 - 09:49 .

[jtav]

There will be fewer than ten.

[DWH1982]

I'd rather keep the squad small. No more than one more character beyond what's announced.

Otherwise we're getting into ME2 territory of just having too many frigging people on the squad. More people likely means less in depth conversations on the ship, which was a real weakness in ME2. In all honesty, not having much of the ME2 squad back doesn't bother me personally because I feel like I never really got to form much of an attachment to those characters. Interaction with them felt inadequate and shallow.

In short, I'd rather have a smaller squad that I get to interact with more than a squad that ensures everyone's favorite character gets to join up with Shepard again.

Modifié par DWH1982, 05 juillet 2011 - 09:54 .

[shepskisaac]

RGC_Ines wrote...
Yeah but for different ppl they are different companions. Two SM survivors aren't " set in stone".

But one is. The other's death automatically secures the survival of the first one. This is the simpliest variable possible, 1 out of 2. SM is 2 out of 12. Ridiculously more complex. If they treated everyone from the SM mission equal, they would have to create scenarios for all 12 of them as perma-squaddies. Impossible.

[alperez]

There should definetly be me2 specific characters on any permanent squad otherwise it only adds to the pointlessness that was me2. Arrival practically made everything you did in me2 mean very little overall other than setting the stage for me3.

By the looks of things Garrus and Tali return in full roles (yes i know they've since backtracked but i still think what they said originally was the truth and now they're just covering themselves in regards to other squadmates) which if true makes the whole too hard to implement excuse look rather thin.

The simplest solution would be that they pick the 2 most popular of the me2 crew or the 2 hardest to kill (miranda for example) and they return as full squadmates in both the default game and a game where they survived in your playthrough. If you don't have a save where they lived then tough, you lose out on their content which you would anyway so whats the difference?

I know its not ideal and people would still be annoyed that their fav's only got temp roles while 2 characters they may not like got full ones but at least it would show consequences of the SM and give something to not just fans of me2 but ps3 fans who didn't play me1 in the first place.

If instead they are going the temp route and we get a mission or 2 with me2 squadmembers before they trot out some excuse as to why they can't help Shepard stop the reapers then the game is going to be a bit nonsensical.

Certain characters make sense for them not to join up directly with Shepard (Mordin,Legion,Wrex etc) but with people like Miranda or Jack or others it just doesn't make sense that they would suddenly have something better to do. So basically bioware would be creating false scenarios to justify their absence (and we all saw how badly they handled that in me2).

The only other scenario i can see them going with is something similar to what happened in DA2 where you got either a sister or brother depending on the choice you made, the other died and the one that survives works with you for the first part of the game, leaves only to return at the end.

[King Zeel]

The bigger questions is why do Tali AND Garrus get to be the stars of three games. there significance in the plot is minimal and yet BAM; still in my squad.

Miranda is more important to me3 story. where is she? I know where she's not.

[The C Trayne]

as it stands i am curious to see what they have some of the other characters off doing that make them to busy to actually travel with shepard... Miranda chooses to resign from cerberus if u bring her to fight the terminator then blow up the station so whats she going to be doing eh? She didnt seem the type to have many friends and with no cerberus behind where would she be if not with the shep

[shepskisaac]

King Zeel wrote...

The bigger questions is why do Tali AND Garrus get to be the stars of three games. there significance in the plot is minimal and yet BAM; still in my squad.

Because they're the most popular. And that's pretty much all there is to say about it, whether someone thinks it's good or bad

Modifié par IsaacShep, 05 juillet 2011 - 10:25 .

[Zjarcal]

Tommy6860 wrote...

ME2 had 12 possible squad choices, I am thinking (hoping actually) there will be the same in ME3.

Sadly, Casey Hudson already confirmed we won't get 12 squadmates again.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 06 juillet 2011 - 01:03 .