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[javierabegazo]

Just a clean slate redirection from this thread: Kaidan, Ashley, James & Liara - Alternative Costumes

. Ok, so here's the picture:

http://i1093.photobu...umes_1920-1.jpg




And now some info from Casey Hudson, Creator of Mass Effect

Casey Hudson (CaseyDHudson) on Twitter

And then some Higher res pictures of the N7 weapons, which do NOT represent final art as per this confirmation by Chris Priestly

N7 Pistol
N7 SMG
N7 Shotgun
N7 Sniper Rifle

Modifié par javierabegazo, 05 juillet 2011 - 10:01 .

[Iakus]

Okay, yeah, my thoughts:

Kaidan: Looks good, easily the best of the lot.

Ashley: Please show us an armored appearance sometime soon. After all, she's a tough marine flanked by a pair of tough marines. And some of us Ash fans are getting a little worried here.

James: Not very pretty, but looks ready to face the Reapers

Liara: Just plain silly. Looks like something Samara would wear. Only it's got a zipper, it seems

[javierabegazo]

From Casey's comment, it seems like the squadmates will be more like real people, having more to wear than just one set of armor, I like this and wonder what other "jacket" versions of appearances there are for squaddies, or if it's just for Ash.

[the_one_54321]

Let me try and get this in towards the top:

Why does Ash have no crotch???
Really. Look at the roughly even level between the other three. But on Ash her thighs just keep going at that point. What's going on here?

[Garrison2009]

I personally like all the new looks (except for Liara's Samara-looking headband) but I'm certain that Bioware will address any concerns I have. They've done good by me this far with both the Mass Effect and Dragon Age series' and I trust them to keep delivering the quality story telling that they've put out thus far.

[Iakus]

javierabegazo wrote...

From Casey's comment, it seems like the squadmates will be more like real people, having more to wear than just one set of armor, I like this and wonder what other "jacket" versions of appearances there are for squaddies, or if it's just for Ash.

I like that concept, as it harkens back to ME 1's "off duty" clothing..  But ME2, and to an extent DA2 kinda have me suspicious.  Everyone has to have a "look" and nothing can be allowed to change it, so every option is little more than a reskin.  That's why I'd like a visual aid on Ash's armor.  I'd like reassurance that it looks like actual, functional-looking armor.  Like Kaidan and James.  Well, unless they're actually wearing paper mache:D

[MrDbow]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Let me try and get this in towards the top:

Why does Ash have no crotch???
Really. Look at the roughly even level between the other three. But on Ash her thighs just keep going at that point. What's going on here?

It's a Jacket.  The jacket has a "zipper" in the middle that goes all the way down, covering over the crotch that you so desparately are looking for

[CajNatalie]

Nice job Javier. Having the Casey tweet included should help keep things from boiling out of control at 50+ pages a day.

As far as I can see, BW has heard the outrage over Ash's outfit and desire for a badass armored getup, so there's no more need to hit the panic button.

I'm curious about this idea of everyone having a jacket/aesthetic outfit, now... so as well as eagerly awaiting Ash's armor, I'd also like to see everyone else's other looks.

[javierabegazo]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Let me try and get this in towards the top:

Why does Ash have no crotch???
Really. Look at the roughly even level between the other three. But on Ash her thighs just keep going at that point. What's going on here?

You're interpreting the end of her jacket to be an actual split, when it's not, it's a coat end, in the way that military coats hang past the crotch


http://t1.gstatic.co...ob1WR1KdffNwu8Q

Modifié par javierabegazo, 05 juillet 2011 - 10:14 .

[Iakus]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Let me try and get this in towards the top:

Why does Ash have no crotch???
Really. Look at the roughly even level between the other three. But on Ash her thighs just keep going at that point. What's going on here?

She's wearing a skirt-like jacket (insert "tin foil miniskirt and thigh-high boots" joke here)

[King Zeel]

Going on the record here: I don't mind ashley armor-less.


Sue me?

[Il Divo]

I'm not that impressed, especially in the case of Liara where I really liked her ME2 outfit. Hopefully, we'll see more outfits in the next 9 months.

[the_one_54321]

javierabegazo wrote...
You're interpreting the end of her jacket to be an actual split, when it's not, it's a coat end, in the way that military coats hang past the crotch

iakus wrote...
She's wearing a skirt-like jacket (insert "tin foil miniskirt and thigh-high boots" joke here)

Look again!
The hem of her skirt is at roughly the same level as the crotch of the other three. But her thighs continue up into the skirt, right? Try and visually separate her torso from her legs. Or visualize it, I mean. I really think her legs are abnormally long and out of scale.

[MrDbow]

And since I didn't get a chance to comment on the last thread:

I really like these armor/casual/alternative looks. Liara's is too much like Samara's for my taste however. I will say that, even though I prefer Ashley's ME1 look, I am starting to dig her long hair. Kaidan looks really good. James, I think looks fine, but his look leads me to believe he is just a "tank" for the squad.

Modifié par SimplyNeo, 05 juillet 2011 - 10:15 .

[Il Divo]

King Zeel wrote...

Going on the record here: I don't mind ashley armor-less.


Sue me?

Usually, I'd agree. I didn't mind Miranda's or Samara's outfits, for example. But in Ashley's case, dislike of anything less than medium armor was an important part of her character.

[rabidhanar]

About the N7 Weapons set...
If these are not the final looks for the weapons, can Casey or another dev give a discription of what the weapons will act like? Will the Sniper be a burst, 1 shot, or automatic weapon? How about that pistol?
Information on this item set would be most appreciated. (Even Vague info, like it is a one round clip or hold multiple rounds in a clip)

As these pictures are not the completely accurate final versions of the outfits, Can any dev tell me whether Liara will wear a headpiece with her alternate outfit? Will Kaidan get his own casual outfit (a la Ashley...though no heels for him please)? Can we get a little more information regarding James the tank?

Thanks in advance for any information.

Modifié par rabidhanar, 05 juillet 2011 - 10:21 .

[Eromenos]

 

Phaedon wrote...

Wait, undermining the women's movement? 

Did you have to bring sexism to the discussion? If you can't realize how eye candy has never been exclusive to one gender (Jacob, Thane, generic male body model) and don't realize that accusing someone of sexism is to accuse them of not believing that all people, regardless of gender have equal rights and equality in general, then you are probably undermining the women's movement yourself.

Did you think that pretending sexism can be ignored would be enough to keep it from being dredged up where it applies?

Shepard is always armored in combat, so pass on your suggestion there.


Thane was never forced into any catsuit. No wedge-heels. No skin-tight butt-cracks. No focus on torso-shape; obscuring jacket. And his "cleavage" is blended into the color of his clothing to avoid offending the dudebros who are, ironically, better able to detect exploitation against themselves than lots of women who are conditioned to deny female exploitation.

Jacob was never forced into any catsuit. No wedge-heels. Yes, there WAS skintight butt-crack. No focus on torso-shape; token armor on shoulders and arms. And no cleavage.

I will say both their outfits were ridculous, given what ME1 had already established. Those 2 and everyone else should've been wearing armor. And yeah they were intended for exploitation, but in a half-assed way compared to what happened with Miranda, Samara, and Jack. Miranda and Samara weren't even allowed to have realistic proportions, on top of their male-imposed exposures.

Take those into account before you pretend that ME's been practicing equal-opportunity exploitation at all. Go ahead, say that I'm the one limiting women. Such a classy accusation to protect one's own emotional investment in preserving the "option" of catsuit hourglasses and wedge-heels forced onto women.

Modifié par Eromenos, 05 juillet 2011 - 10:17 .

[Someone With Mass]

Looks like I won't have any use of those suits.

[Ace of Dawn]

Thank you, javierabegazo. Because of all the chaos of the last thread, I did not know about Casey's tweets.

With that said, i am quite pleased with everything without reservation. And even the possibility of Vega's facial appearance subject to change is nice, though I don't really mind his overall appearance at all.

Like it or not, it breaks the mold since nearly every other human male had the exact same build and frame. It's different.

[Eshaye]

javierabegazo wrote...

From Casey's comment, it seems like the squadmates will be more like real people, having more to wear than just one set of armor, I like this and wonder what other "jacket" versions of appearances there are for squaddies, or if it's just for Ash.

I fervently hope that is the case! I loved the armor and casual appearance concept for Shepard in ME2, it would be nice if it got carried over to all companions as well. 

But really I think i really like the idea of being to choose armor types more then that, so I hope that's an option too. 

[ramdog7]

well this is good news i thought it was something like that.
Its good to here from the Casey

[sighineedname]

Why are people quoting a locked thread. That's clearly not a brilliant idea..

Anyway, I don't have a problem with any of the armors really. I certainly wouldn't use Liara's since I like the white and blue LotSB colors better, but it offers her some variety. I felt a lot of the alternate armors in ME2 were too similar to really matter. Grunts was a good difference, but most seemed relatively minor.

Vega's armor looks like it will fit his role well. I'd like to be able to get something heavy like that on a soldier Shepard.

[javierabegazo]

@Eromenos,

Perhaps your discussion is best suited for another thread, as it encompasses, not just Ash's look, but the look of females in general in Mass Effect games.