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Kaidan, Ashley, James & Liara - Alternative Costumes V.2


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#151
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MELTOR13 wrote...

You people are ridiculous. It's a wonder BioWare even attempts to check these forums from time to time. This is not a place for your social agendas or crybaby antics. It's a VIDEO-GAME FORUM, for God's sake. Please take your femi**** views and your entitlement issues elsewhere.


It's dangerous to go alone, take this:

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Or you could start using the "think before you post" method. Whatever works.

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Warlock Adam wrote...

Crimzontearz, can you design Ashley better than her creators? You are one complaining consumer out of a million. Your opinion of how someone's artistic vision should be enacted means as much as any other consumer's. Can you or can't you?


Given her precedents, given her statements, given her role and her history I can tell that I could indeed come up with a design that fits her MUCH better than a catsuit. Hell, ANY armor from ME 1 would actually fit her character better.


I am also fairly sure that the Bioware concept artists could do it as well and much MUCH better than me.....if they had not been told to come up with a more sexualized, superhero-ish design

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AppleBanana wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Does your Mommy know you're on the Internet?


Protip: When you are trying to take the intellectual highroad, don't use grammatical errors


Wanna tell me where I screwed up there chief? It looks fine to me.

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Manic Sheep wrote...

MELTOR13 wrote...

You people are ridiculous. It's a wonder BioWare even attempts to check these forums from time to time. This is not a place for your social agendas or crybaby antics. It's a VIDEO-GAME FORUM, for God's sake. Please take your femi**** views and your entitlement issues elsewhere.

You would think the fourms would be the perfect place to express your opinion of features of the game. Or are we only suppose to express our opinion if its positive and gush over everything bioware dose now?


The whole reason the thread was moved is because people turned it into their personal social agenda thread. It took all of 6 pages to do it again. Congrats, BSN'ers. Stay classy. 

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At least Vega has some brass knuckles. Those are badass

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Siansonea II wrote...

AppleBanana wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Does your Mommy know you're on the Internet?


Protip: When you are trying to take the intellectual highroad, don't use grammatical errors


Wanna tell me where I screwed up there chief? It looks fine to me.


I'm guessing it's the capital M on "Mommy," because your "your" and "you're" are spot on.

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MELTOR13 wrote...

Manic Sheep wrote...

MELTOR13 wrote...

You people are ridiculous. It's a wonder BioWare even attempts to check these forums from time to time. This is not a place for your social agendas or crybaby antics. It's a VIDEO-GAME FORUM, for God's sake. Please take your femi**** views and your entitlement issues elsewhere.

You would think the fourms would be the perfect place to express your opinion of features of the game. Or are we only suppose to express our opinion if its positive and gush over everything bioware dose now?


The whole reason the thread was moved is because people turned it into their personal social agenda thread. It took all of 6 pages to do it again. Congrats, BSN'ers. Stay classy. 


Yeah, who are all these people who want to air their opinions on BSN? What do they think this is, some kind of forum?

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Siansonea II wrote...


Not to mention that the Protheans were the original base stock for the Collectors, and they settled on nitrogen-oxygen garden worlds like Feros. Collector lungs might have cybernetic components, but it doesn't mean they don't breathe air.


Oh god, just, wow. I honestly didn't believe how stupid people in this universe could be. I hope for the sake of humanity, that you do not reproduce.

Modifié par AppleBanana, 06 juillet 2011 - 12:04 .


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Eromenos wrote...

The way her white labcoat is presented does not oversell the fact that she's female with an hourglass figure. The way her red labcoat's coloring is arranged is done precisely to emphasize that she's an hourglass who may or may not use guns.

With the way the colors are arrayed on her in this picture, do we ever see male combat outfits being depicted in this way that emphasizes the sexuality of their bodies above all else? Nope. So why should female characters alone be targeted for this thankless responsibility that thus far segregates them into titillation-toys?

It's not a coincidence that folks are complaining that she resembles Samara's misogynistic appearance in a bad way. They might have made excuses in their heads for Samara, but seeing Liara forced into something similar has triggered their rejection of this concept, at least while on Liara.

While I am grateful that Liara's labcoat looks like it offers presentation in a way that Ashley's catsuit does not, I still condemn BioWare for insisting on female exploitation in Liara's red-labcoat for the dudebros, even while BioWare refuses to antagonize the dudebros with any potential male-exploitation.


While I'm glad to see some serious thought was put into this opinion, it strikes me as purely subjective. So far, you're the only one I've seen that thinks this new outfit is exploitive. Now, I've seen people who just don't like the colors and/or the forhead ornemants, but that's another matter.

Aside from basic color, her outfit doesn't resemble Samara's outfit at all. And unless you're saying that color had to do with the exploitation element of Samara's outfit as well, the argument that there is a paralell of explotation between the outfits of Liara and Samara is void.

I'd also like to add that the colors of Jacob's outfit --especially that of his loyalyy variant-- does some far more overt emphasizing of a masculine body form, but that is neither here nor there.

Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 06 juillet 2011 - 12:05 .


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ScepticMatt wrote...

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*Ashley in red colored Kaidan armor pic*

I approve!


Me too!  That's the Ash I know.  

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These twitters by Casey set things right IMO. It will be interesting to see how it all turns out.

N7 weapons look great btw, apart from the pistol. I hope that is the folded state they show there. Otherwise it's a bit ... bulky, not sleek enough for ME.

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MrFob wrote...

These twitters by Casey set things right IMO. It will be interesting to see how it all turns out.

N7 weapons look great btw, apart from the pistol. I hope that is the folded state they show there. Otherwise it's a bit ... bulky, not sleek enough for ME.


the N7 pistol is obviously a reskin of the phalanx

it's ok for that to be bulky, it is supposed to be a ridiculously powerful handcannon

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MELTOR13 wrote...

Manic Sheep wrote...

MELTOR13 wrote...

You people are ridiculous. It's a wonder BioWare even attempts to check these forums from time to time. This is not a place for your social agendas or crybaby antics. It's a VIDEO-GAME FORUM, for God's sake. Please take your femi**** views and your entitlement issues elsewhere.

You would think the fourms would be the perfect place to express your opinion of features of the game. Or are we only suppose to express our opinion if its positive and gush over everything bioware dose now?


The whole reason the thread was moved is because people turned it into their personal social agenda thread. It took all of 6 pages to do it again. Congrats, BSN'ers. Stay classy. 


You do realize that by ****ing about someone's "Social agenda" you're far more likely to bring it back to the surface.  Of course, this was probably your reason for complaining in the first place.

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AppleBanana wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...


Not to mention that the Protheans were the original base stock for the Collectors, and they settled on nitrogen-oxygen garden worlds like Feros. Collector lungs might have cybernetic components, but it doesn't mean they don't breathe air.


Oh god, just, wow. I honestly didn't believe how stupid people in this universe could be. I hope for the sake of humanity, that you do not reproduce.

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makalathbonagin wrote...

AppleBanana wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...


Not to mention that the Protheans were the original base stock for the Collectors, and they settled on nitrogen-oxygen garden worlds like Feros. Collector lungs might have cybernetic components, but it doesn't mean they don't breathe air.


Oh god, just, wow. I honestly didn't believe how stupid people in this universe could be. I hope for the sake of humanity, that you do not reproduce.

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..... is Wolverine getting beat-up by the Invisible Man? :ph34r:

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AppleBanana wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...


Not to mention that the Protheans were the original base stock for the Collectors, and they settled on nitrogen-oxygen garden worlds like Feros. Collector lungs might have cybernetic components, but it doesn't mean they don't breathe air.


Oh god, just, wow. I honestly didn't believe how stupid people in this universe could be. I hope for the sake of humanity, that you do not reproduce.


Well, now you're just trying to hurt my feelings. Didn't work, but better luck next time.:wizard:

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MrFob wrote...

N7 weapons look great btw, apart from the pistol. I hope that is the folded state they show there. Otherwise it's a bit ... bulky, not sleek enough for ME.


a little off topic, but i'm way more concerned with how they shoot.  The game over screen doesn't look cool, no matter how awesome your guns look B)

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crimzontearz wrote...

the N7 pistol is obviously a reskin of the phalanx

it's ok for that to be bulky, it is supposed to be a ridiculously powerful handcannon


They're only mostly reskins. Some guy posted a close up image comparing all the weapons and they did actually change some of the features on the N7 guns.

I like them and i cant wait to shoot some people with that shotty!

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AppleBanana wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...


Not to mention that the Protheans were the original base stock for the Collectors, and they settled on nitrogen-oxygen garden worlds like Feros. Collector lungs might have cybernetic components, but it doesn't mean they don't breathe air.


Oh god, just, wow. I honestly didn't believe how stupid people in this universe could be. I hope for the sake of humanity, that you do not reproduce.



Excuse me you appalling blatant troll.

I agreed with your original post, some of the people in this thread and on these forums react ridiculously to things they dont like about the ME and DA universes.
So how is what you just did any better?

I mean really, how was THAT response to Siansonea's perfectly logical and reasonable supposition about what atmosphere the collectors breathe based on existing evidence which is supposedly example of her being an idiot who shouldnt reproduce, a reasonable response?

No need for that.

Reported.

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Warlock Adam wrote...

...you don't get it.

It's bioware's game. Not yours. It's bioware's character, not yours. They've even confirmed in several ways that Ashley will have armor. And you're putting your fingers in your ears and singing, instead of...excuse me..."getting off of your own soapbox."

Do you think you can design Ashley better than her creators?


Some of us don't accept filth being forced-fed on us as if we don't know any better. Some of us detect the presence of filth in that picture because we're not so craven as to bow for some proprietary mystique of BioWare's, which you believe is yours to uphold all because you appreciate the misogynistic catsuit.

Let's not pretend that their being at the helm is any excuse for them to pull this crap against female characters. There's nothing to stop anyone from calling BS when it's this bad.

Modifié par Eromenos, 06 juillet 2011 - 12:11 .


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Welsh Inferno wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

the N7 pistol is obviously a reskin of the phalanx

it's ok for that to be bulky, it is supposed to be a ridiculously powerful handcannon


They're only mostly reskins. Some guy posted a close up image comparing all the weapons and they did actually change some of the features on the N7 guns.

I like them and i cant wait to shoot some people with that shotty!


still that's the idea

and no, I'm gonna stick with my GPS unless they nerf it on me

#172
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Eromenos wrote...

Warlock Adam wrote...

...you don't get it.

It's bioware's game. Not yours. It's bioware's character, not yours. They've even confirmed in several ways that Ashley will have armor. And you're putting your fingers in your ears and singing, instead of...excuse me..."getting off of your own soapbox."

Do you think you can design Ashley better than her creators?


Some of us don't accept filth being forced-fed on us as if we don't know any better. Some of us detect the presence of filth in that picture because we're not so craven as to bow for some proprietary mystique of BioWare's, which you believe is yours to uphold all because you appreciate the misogynistic catsuit.

Let's not pretend that their being at the helm is any excuse for them to pull this crap against female characters. There's nothing to stop anyone from calling BS when it's this bad.


lucid, intelligent, eloquent

thumbs up my good Sir

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By the way, I tried my hand at a new outfit for Ashley, and I decided to give her blonde hair, just for variety. I think this could work for most combat situations, and maybe also for aboard the Normandy:

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Is she too covered up? I can accept criticism, so feel free to give feedback, this is a work-in-progress...;)

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the only think i really disagree with is the headband on Liara, It worked for Samara, (because she was in a religious order) on lirana it looks like one of those old 80's workout outfit fads. That and the armor shape seems strange, I guess in theory it looks like it would be comfortable to sit in but, it kind of looks 1800 century "gentleman" outfit.

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FitScotGaymer wrote...


Excuse me you appalling blatant troll.

I agreed with your original post, some of the people in this thread and on these forums react ridiculously to things they dont like about the ME and DA universes.
So how is what you just did any better?

I mean really, how was THAT response to Siansonea's perfectly logical and reasonable supposition about what atmosphere the collectors breathe based on existing evidence an example of her being an idiot who shouldnt reproduce?

No need for that.

Reported.


I didn't care that it didn't make any sense, but I take exception to when people try to explain things as ridiculous as breathing at the centre of the galaxy. That is stupid beyond belief.

Modifié par AppleBanana, 06 juillet 2011 - 12:16 .