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[Reapinger]

Raloi better be there in ME3. I've had hight hopes for them and Yahg since the update.

[Zigeroy]

Maybe but we still could work with a Raloi and james vega, its not like we have to choose.

[Ace of Dawn]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

 It's actually Shepards more murky dealings with Cerberus that "those in the know" would be unaware of.

Except the trial - should one be taking place - would make that public.

As would, you know, the ship he flew around in with the logos of Cerberus painted on the side.

Actually, that may not even be entirely true. All that would be made public is the fact that he was, at one point, aligned with Cerberus. But many of the details would be left unknown since I very much doubt Cerberus would just hand over details on what has he done since it may jeopardize their agenda. I very much doubt the Collector Base or Object Rho would be brought up with conclusive evidence, or even any sort of actual belief.

[GunMoth]

VegasVance wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

 "Little is known about the biology of the raloi except that they are avian in appearance. Due to an outbreak of an alien flu virus among the raloi during the ceremonies held to welcome them to the galactic community, the raloi have to wear environmental suits while in contact with other alien species."

Bird people?!
http://1.bp.blogspot...eres-bailar.jpg

I think you meant this:masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Quarian 

Not sure what you mean.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Raloi

>.> It's a joke about the Raloi being regurgitated quarians due to them needing envirosuits and having avain characteristics.  A mockery of how bioware is repeating itself in the same francise... 

I disagree. Aside from their feet, quarians don't look similar to birds at all. (Their physiology and the way their bodies look.) Also, needing enviro suits should be more common. If you know anything about history/bio (smallpox lol) you'd understand that immune systems are extremely fragile. Especially when being exposed to things that the body can mistake for a virus. 

[Reapinger]

Errrr the reason they were wearing envirosuits was to prevent infection. I'm pretty sure any raloi that could be a squadmate will not be wearing one/not be infected.

[Malanek]

GunMoth wrote...
I disagree. Aside from their feet, quarians don't look similar to birds at all. (Their physiology and the way their bodies look.) Also, needing enviro suits should be more common. If you know anything about history/bio (smallpox lol) you'd understand that immune systems are extremely fragile. Especially when being exposed to things that the body can mistake for a virus.

We don't really know what Quarians look like. Obviously a humanoid body but if you had to pick one animal they took inspiration from it would be birds because of their legs.

As for envirosuits, that was almost certainly just a pop-culture reference to H5N1. With that level of technology, vacinations should be cheap and plentiful enough so that risk of cross species contamination is not a big issue. It's also much more difficult than you are making out for a virus to be able to adapt to live in, and infect, two entirely different species in the first place.

[phrizek]

Reapinger wrote...

Errrr the reason they were wearing envirosuits was to prevent infection. I'm pretty sure any raloi that could be a squadmate will not be wearing one/not be infected.

Exactly. The Raloi were wearing envirosuits because of a virus outbreak. The outbreak could have passed by the time ME3 begins.

[Reapinger]

I've noticed that I get along great with the people with TIM pics.

[DaveExclamationMarkYognaut]

Raloi can't have fauxhawks. Next question.

[Nightdragon8]

meh, you sure it wasn't just some of them messing around??

Also why is the council uplifting a civilization in the first place??

[GunMoth]

Malanek999 wrote...

GunMoth wrote...
I disagree. Aside from their feet, quarians don't look similar to birds at all. (Their physiology and the way their bodies look.) Also, needing enviro suits should be more common. If you know anything about history/bio (smallpox lol) you'd understand that immune systems are extremely fragile. Especially when being exposed to things that the body can mistake for a virus.

We don't really know what Quarians look like. Obviously a humanoid body but if you had to pick one animal they took inspiration from it would be birds because of their legs.

As for envirosuits, that was almost certainly just a pop-culture reference to H5N1. With that level of technology, vacinations should be cheap and plentiful enough so that risk of cross species contamination is not a big issue. It's also much more difficult than you are making out for a virus to be able to adapt to live in, and infect, two entirely different species in the first place.

It doesn't matter what the quarians look like under the suit, you can still make out their basic anatomy. Theropods are common amongst birds and dinosaurs, so yes, those features are avian. However they have ****** sapien features, limbs, and cognitive awareness. Then you have to consider the biology of Turians. Are they considered avian because they're theropods? 

Also, that is why I stated "things your body can mistake for a virus." That's what allergies are. That's why quarians wear suits, not because of disease nessisarily, but because of their immune systems (which are weak) that mistake outside stimuli as virus. 

For example: I have been hospitalized because of exposure to a cat (true story). We got one when I was a child, before my parents knew I had allergies, and I developed walking pneumonia along with an extremely high fever that made me hallucinate. 

[Reapinger]

Nightdragon8 wrote...

meh, you sure it wasn't just some of them messing around??

Also why is the council uplifting a civilization in the first place??

I don't know if I would call it as much uplifting as you think. They launched a probe, similar to humanity. I don't know if you would call us uplifted. Krogan were a known mistake because of their high birth rate and tendency towards violence. 

[GunMoth]

Reapinger wrote...

Errrr the reason they were wearing envirosuits was to prevent infection. I'm pretty sure any raloi that could be a squadmate will not be wearing one/not be infected.

There is a dialog with Tali in ME2 where she talks about immune systems and accute allergies. 

[Reapinger]

GunMoth wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

Errrr the reason they were wearing envirosuits was to prevent infection. I'm pretty sure any raloi that could be a squadmate will not be wearing one/not be infected.

There is a dialog with Tali in ME2 where she talks about immune systems and accute allergies. 

Okay, I get that and I remember it. I don't want to come across as rude but I am confused. What are you asserting?  

[marshalleck]

A raloi would be nearly useless. Their tech is roughly two centuries behind humanity. They wouldn't know how to do anything, they'd have no insight to offer, nothing. It would be an even worse idea than Shepard having to babysit a small child throughout the entire game.

Modifié par marshalleck, 06 juillet 2011 - 12:49 .

[GunMoth]

Reapinger wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

Errrr the reason they were wearing envirosuits was to prevent infection. I'm pretty sure any raloi that could be a squadmate will not be wearing one/not be infected.

There is a dialog with Tali in ME2 where she talks about immune systems and accute allergies. 

Okay, I get that and I remember it. I don't want to come across as rude but I am confused. What are you asserting?  

Not asserting anything. :0 I didn't mean to come off rude either. My original point is that (if the game were more realistic) almost all of the races would be wearing enviro suits to prevent accute allergic reactions or disease transfer. Although, I understand it takes away the artistic direction of the game. It would be pretty boring if all we had to look at was enviro suits.

[Reapinger]

marshalleck wrote...

A raloi would be nearly useless. Their tech is roughly two centuries behind humanity. They wouldn't know how to do anything, they'd have no insight to offer, nothing. It would be an even worse idea than Shepard having to babysit a small child throughout the entire game.

The differing culture is inherently interesting and guns are guns are guns in my opinion. It would provide newcomers to the series someone to connect with in the awe that is the 22nd century from a modern perspective. It may also offer old players with another race to be expanded upon in future games not involving Shepard in the ME Universe. 

[HTTP 404]

Raloi have their own culture and etc that we as human gamers do not know about. Vega being new to the galaxy for the most part is more relatable to the average (new) gamer since we know what it is like to be human anyways.

[Reapinger]

GunMoth wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

Errrr the reason they were wearing envirosuits was to prevent infection. I'm pretty sure any raloi that could be a squadmate will not be wearing one/not be infected.

There is a dialog with Tali in ME2 where she talks about immune systems and accute allergies. 

Okay, I get that and I remember it. I don't want to come across as rude but I am confused. What are you asserting?  

Not asserting anything. :0 I didn't mean to come off rude either. My original point is that (if the game were more realistic) almost all of the races would be wearing enviro suits to prevent accute allergic reactions or disease transfer. Although, I understand it takes away the artistic direction of the game. It would be pretty boring if all we had to look at was enviro suits.

 I agree with everything you said! I am just a big fan of new species is all. It fascinates me to learn the lore of a new race and their appearances and quirks! For instance the Elcor: a bunch of slow moving, nearly emotionless, large quadrapedal beings. They have to state their emotion to get the point across and they're slow because of the high gravity on their homeworld. It's all fascinating to me. 

[marshalleck]

Reapinger wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

A raloi would be nearly useless. Their tech is roughly two centuries behind humanity. They wouldn't know how to do anything, they'd have no insight to offer, nothing. It would be an even worse idea than Shepard having to babysit a small child throughout the entire game.

The differing culture is inherently interesting and guns are guns are guns in my opinion. It would provide newcomers to the series someone to connect with in the awe that is the 22nd century from a modern perspective. It may also offer old players with another race to be expanded upon in future games not involving Shepard in the ME Universe. 

Look, even opening a door would be a challenge for a raloi since they've never seen holographic/haptic interfaces. Their level of development is said to be the same as modern day Earth today, now, in the real world. They'd be too busy having their mind completely and utterly blown away by even the smallest things to actually have any useful contribution.

Granted there is fertile ground for a series of amusing conversations, but squad member? No way.

Modifié par marshalleck, 06 juillet 2011 - 12:59 .

[phrizek]

marshalleck wrote...

A raloi would be nearly useless. Their tech is roughly two centuries behind humanity. They wouldn't know how to do anything, they'd have no insight to offer, nothing. It would be an even worse idea than Shepard having to babysit a small child throughout the entire game.

Who says they will be using their own tech? They would be on Shepard's ship, using modern weapons. Put a Revenant or a Mattock in the hands of a contemporary U.S. Marine and they'll know what to do with it. It isn't rocket science, and I'm sure the Raloi had projectile weapons before first contact. Also, they've had 2 or so years to adapt all the new tech they've been exposed to and that could include things like body armor.

[GunMoth]

Reapinger wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

Errrr the reason they were wearing envirosuits was to prevent infection. I'm pretty sure any raloi that could be a squadmate will not be wearing one/not be infected.

There is a dialog with Tali in ME2 where she talks about immune systems and accute allergies. 

Okay, I get that and I remember it. I don't want to come across as rude but I am confused. What are you asserting?  

Not asserting anything. :0 I didn't mean to come off rude either. My original point is that (if the game were more realistic) almost all of the races would be wearing enviro suits to prevent accute allergic reactions or disease transfer. Although, I understand it takes away the artistic direction of the game. It would be pretty boring if all we had to look at was enviro suits.

 I agree with everything you said! I am just a big fan of new species is all. It fascinates me to learn the lore of a new race and their appearances and quirks! For instance the Elcor: a bunch of slow moving, nearly emotionless, large quadrapedal beings. They have to state their emotion to get the point across and they're slow because of the high gravity on their homeworld. It's all fascinating to me. 

Oh no I'm the same. I'm defending them haha. A lot of people think they're quarian clones - but I'm going to assume that isn't the case. 
And elcor aren't emotionless.  They're just like dogs and use their body language and scent to communicate. 

[Malanek]

marshalleck wrote...

A raloi would be nearly useless. Their tech is roughly two centuries behind humanity. They wouldn't know how to do anything, they'd have no insight to offer, nothing. It would be an even worse idea than Shepard having to babysit a small child throughout the entire game.

It would really depend on their biology. You can provide it with equipment. Krogan for instance arguably still have tech 2 centuries behind humans. They certainly did when the Salarians recruited them to fight the Rachni. However they are still useful troopers because of their immense strength and regenerative biology. If they were more like Volus on the other hand, then yes, they would be useless.

Modifié par Malanek999, 06 juillet 2011 - 01:00 .

[Reapinger]

marshalleck wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

A raloi would be nearly useless. Their tech is roughly two centuries behind humanity. They wouldn't know how to do anything, they'd have no insight to offer, nothing. It would be an even worse idea than Shepard having to babysit a small child throughout the entire game.

The differing culture is inherently interesting and guns are guns are guns in my opinion. It would provide newcomers to the series someone to connect with in the awe that is the 22nd century from a modern perspective. It may also offer old players with another race to be expanded upon in future games not involving Shepard in the ME Universe. 

Look, even opening a door would be a challenge for a raloi since they've never seen holographic/haptic interfaces. Their level of development is said to be the same as modern day Earth today, now, in the real world. They'd be too busy having their mind completely and utterly blown away by even the smallest things to actually have any useful contribution.

We have no idea of their level of intelligence or adaptibility, sir.  They have also been integrated for several months if not a year I take it into galactic society!

[Reapinger]

GunMoth wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

Errrr the reason they were wearing envirosuits was to prevent infection. I'm pretty sure any raloi that could be a squadmate will not be wearing one/not be infected.

There is a dialog with Tali in ME2 where she talks about immune systems and accute allergies. 

Okay, I get that and I remember it. I don't want to come across as rude but I am confused. What are you asserting?  

Not asserting anything. :0 I didn't mean to come off rude either. My original point is that (if the game were more realistic) almost all of the races would be wearing enviro suits to prevent accute allergic reactions or disease transfer. Although, I understand it takes away the artistic direction of the game. It would be pretty boring if all we had to look at was enviro suits.

 I agree with everything you said! I am just a big fan of new species is all. It fascinates me to learn the lore of a new race and their appearances and quirks! For instance the Elcor: a bunch of slow moving, nearly emotionless, large quadrapedal beings. They have to state their emotion to get the point across and they're slow because of the high gravity on their homeworld. It's all fascinating to me. 

Oh no I'm the same. I'm defending them haha. A lot of people think they're quarian clones - but I'm going to assume that isn't the case. 
And elcor aren't emotionless.  They're just like dogs and use their body language and scent to communicate. 

Hahaha, I am glad to know someone shares my enthusiasm! And I stand corrected!