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[GunMoth]

marshalleck wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Of course they could; that doesn't make it a good idea. Look at the damned Space Terminator at the end of ME2 for example.

The  concept art of the "finished" human reaper wasn't that bad. Skeleton terminator made WAYYY more sense after I saw it.

http://images.wikia....7/7d/Wcb6ug.png

Concept is irrelevent, implementation is what counts.

I suppose that's true. I think the overall idea of throwing the skeletal structure in there was a bit over the top. 

I have the art book by the way and they've got some real quality artists over there at Bioware, I meant no slight to their work. Personally I would have gone with the giant huskified human fetus, since it's about as unnerving, grotesque, insulting, and generally offensive on every single level that I can think of. It really drives home the idea of the Reapers wanting to hijack our species--I suppose there probably could have been quite an outrage if they'd actually used that one, though.

No I agree. I simply meant the stigma/symbology that's attached to skeletons, especially metal ones. Skeletons immediately make me think of cheesy halloween decorations, or episodes of Scooby Doo. People draw from their experiences in order to create art. Unfortunately audiences also draw from their experiences to interpret it. 

The only videogame I've ever seen that implimented the use of skulls/skeletons elegantly was Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. http://www.popanime....0/0b/Fiend3.jpg

I think a fetus would have been difficult to really explain the developmental process. They're basically building a ship. So even though the reaper was still a "fetus" it really just meant they were working on the basic structure. Since its synthetic kindof. etc. etc. 

[marshalleck]

GunMoth wrote...

The only videogame I've ever seen that implimented the use of skulls/skeletons elegantly was Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. http://www.popanime....0/0b/Fiend3.jpg

Has kind of a danse macabre vibe to it, doesn't it? I love that stuff. Nice find. I have no idea what Shin Megami Tensei is, but now I'm googling.

[GunMoth]

marshalleck wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

The only videogame I've ever seen that implimented the use of skulls/skeletons elegantly was Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. http://www.popanime....0/0b/Fiend3.jpg

Has kind of a danse macabre vibe to it, doesn't it? I love that stuff. Nice find. I have no idea what Shin Megami Tensei is, but now I'm googling.

Look up Nocturne in particular. 
The Persona series is decent, but its very anime-y and the same artist doesn't do the character design for that one.
Nocturne was originally a Ps2 game, but I definitely suggest giving it a go if you like really hard RPGs. 


EDIT EDIT:
Google "Kazuma Kaneko". Look at the images. Droll all over your keyboard. 

EDITEDITEDIT:
http://www.metacriti...tensei-nocturne

Modifié par GunMoth, 06 juillet 2011 - 01:58 .

[DaringMoosejaw]

A Raloi certainly couldn't do the job because they're going to use Vega as the earth-centric guy and he'll spin ridiculous stories about how the Tower of Piza finally fell over in 2079 and Rod Stewart is still alive.

You introduce a Raloi and while they're newbies, it's going to be all about their history and culture and no future-earth commentary.

Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 06 juillet 2011 - 01:46 .

[GunMoth]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

A Raloi certainly couldn't do the job because they're going to use Vega as the earth-centric guy and he'll spin ridiculous stories about how the Tower of Piza finally fell over in 2079 and Rod Stewart is still alive.

This is brilliant.

[Reapinger]

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

Make their President look like Ra/Horus...

[Halfdan The Menace]

GunMoth wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Of course they could; that doesn't make it a good idea. Look at the damned Space Terminator at the end of ME2 for example.

The  concept art of the "finished" human reaper wasn't that bad. Skeleton terminator made WAYYY more sense after I saw it.

http://images.wikia....7/7d/Wcb6ug.png

Concept is irrelevent, implementation is what counts.

I suppose that's true. I think the overall idea of throwing the skeletal structure in there was a bit over the top. 

I have the art book by the way and they've got some real quality artists over there at Bioware, I meant no slight to their work. Personally I would have gone with the giant huskified human fetus, since it's about as unnerving, grotesque, insulting, and generally offensive on every single level that I can think of. It really drives home the idea of the Reapers wanting to hijack our species--I suppose there probably could have been quite an outrage if they'd actually used that one, though.

No I agree. I simply meant the stigma/symbology that's attached to skeletons, especially metal ones. Skeletons immediately make me think of cheesy halloween decorations, or episodes of Scooby Doo. People draw from their experiences in order to create art. Unfortunately audiences also draw from their experiences to interpret it. 

The only videogame I've ever seen that implimented the use of skulls/skeletons elegantly was Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. http://www.popanime....0/0b/Fiend3.jpg

I think a fetus would have been difficult to really explain the developmental process. They're basically building a ship. So even though the reaper was still a "fetus" it really just meant they were working on the basic structure. Since its synthetic kindof. etc. etc. 

I hope we will face Reaper-Predator at the end of ME3!  

This one can create multiple deadly soldiers similiar to the Thorian but more powerful and they can rip your spine out!! Ouch!! The only way you can defeat it is to find its "heart" somewhere in its lair! after you found it,that thing will try to smash you with his its giant hammer!! Painkiller-style!

[GunMoth]

@Modest. Hahahaha. Some people are already speculating Shepard is going to be come a reaper in ME3. Maybe he/she should just become predator instead.

[Reapinger]

GunMoth wrote...

@Modest. Hahahaha. Some people are already speculating Shepard is going to be come a reaper in ME3. Maybe he/she should just become predator instead.

LMAO. Conrad Verner, *Shoots* THIS HURTS YOU

[DaringMoosejaw]

GunMoth wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

A Raloi certainly couldn't do the job because they're going to use Vega as the earth-centric guy and he'll spin ridiculous stories about how the Tower of Piza finally fell over in 2079 and Rod Stewart is still alive.

This is brilliant.

You think I'm kidding! I firmly believe a large chunk of his conversations are going to be talking about Earth and how it's changed.

[GunMoth]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

GunMoth wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

A Raloi certainly couldn't do the job because they're going to use Vega as the earth-centric guy and he'll spin ridiculous stories about how the Tower of Piza finally fell over in 2079 and Rod Stewart is still alive.

This is brilliant.

You think I'm kidding! I firmly believe a large chunk of his conversations are going to be talking about Earth and how it's changed.

I do not think you are kidding in the slightest - Maybe about that Rod Stewart part -But it would be funny / interesting to hear about Earth's changes.
Especially since we have been completely oblivious / detatched from our planet for the entire series. 

[Malanek]

Reapinger wrote...



I would approve of this being a raloi if it had plumage instead of fur and no eyebrows.

Actually if you slapped an envirosuit on this it could pass as a quarian. The body shape is spot on. I always assumed the quarians elongated helmet was for a snout, but a beak makes perfect sense. I guess the one thing that makes it less likely is the appearance of the Geth, who we assume to be made in the quarians image. They don't have beaks. Still, not an impossibility.

[marshalleck]

Malanek999 wrote...

Actually if you slapped an envirosuit on this it could pass as a quarian. The body shape is spot on. I always assumed the quarians elongated helmet was for a snout, but a beak makes perfect sense. I guess the one thing that makes it less likely is the appearance of the Geth, who we assume to be made in the quarians image. They don't have beaks. Still, not an impossibility.

The quarians have a mouth, lips, teeth, ears, and eyebrows. There's a vague description of one in the second ME book. Sorry, no tentacles, beaks, or anything weird like that. 

[Sheppard-Commander]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

nah, replace him with a Yahg.

No thanks. I would rather have squad members that make at very least some sense. Not a giant furry bear that is a state of constant krogan bloodrage unless you bend over for it.

Raloi could be cool...I donno...honestly I'm a little worried how the Bird people in enviro suits are going to end up looking. But at very least, I want them featured in ME3 in some form.

edit: Also, they better be able to fly! even if its only over short distances ala Collectors.

Modifié par Sheppard-Commander, 06 juillet 2011 - 02:44 .

[The Spamming Troll]

whatever the raloi are or arent, i really think the raloi should NOT have beaks.

as much as i hate humanoid squadmates, i dont want to see a beak. might as well give them a horseface.

[GunMoth]

I'm not sure if I'd get too excited about this, guys. Like what was discussed before, "avian" can be interpreted in different ways.

It can be subtle, or they can be similar to elcor or hannar and just look like alien birds. I just hope that it doesnt turn out like the image above. That's just awful.

Modifié par GunMoth, 06 juillet 2011 - 02:53 .

[GunMoth]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

whatever the raloi are or arent, i really think the raloi should NOT have beaks.

as much as i hate humanoid squadmates, i dont want to see a beak. might as well give them a horseface.

This. 
I'm sure Bioware has a good idea. I dislike blatant furrie/cross species looking artistic concepts, but they have implimented them very well in the game so far. (Salarians, Drell etc.) 


I googled "bird people" for funsies. This is the only one I kind of liked. 
http://www.wacom-asi...ges/4/4599.jpeg

EDIT: Although its not very pretty.

Modifié par GunMoth, 06 juillet 2011 - 02:59 .

[TexasToast712]

Lol birds with guns. We already have space lizards (Krogan) and space frogs (Salarians) might as well add a space bird to the team.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 06 juillet 2011 - 04:00 .

[TexasToast712]

Arcian wrote...

I imagined them looking something like this:

I would hate them as much as I hate Batarians if they looked like skirmishers.

[Sheppard-Commander]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Lol birds with guns. We already have space lizards (Krogan) and space frogs (Salarians) might as well add a space bird to the team.

It's more like...

Salarians = Salamanders
Krogan =  Horny Toad
Drell = Lizard

At least in my opinion. But I'm glad that at least the new races isnt going to be based off of Iguanas, Dragons or Geckos. Bird people at least add some flavor.

[GodWood]

Call me boring but I prefer having a team of humans on my human ship instead of a 'representitive of each race'.


The latter just feels .... too cheesy and unrealistic.

[Confused-Shepard]

The OP is officially smarter than Bioware! People who play Mass Effect 3 without playing the first two can seriously <expletive> off, if you do that you clearly don't care about the plot. Even if you do, you deserve to be confused. Secondly, a Raloi would be far more interesting in a multitude of ways than generic dumb as a brick Space Marine James Vega.

It could be a female Raloi super soldier acting as a bodyguard who suddenly feels outclassed. But Shpeard is all, "You have fingers, you have guns with triggers. Centuries of advancement and it's still point and shoot. Here's a Mattock." 

No Bioware... WE DON'T NEED SOMEONE ASKING US QUESTIONS WHOSE ANSWERS WE ALREADY KNOW!!

Modifié par Confused-Shepard, 06 juillet 2011 - 08:16 .

[CroGamer002]

Some people demand M/M romance. Majority of Raloi are females.


Also why would Raloi be on Alliance ship from start?!
It makes no sense.

I doubt even Garrus and Liara will be on Normandy from start.