So alot of people dislike Morinth for obvious reasons, so what would be some ways to make her a more appealing character and not just some character you hate and choose to kill everytime? maybe something like making her into a more sympathetic character or have it so a paragon shepard would be able to help her learn to control her addiction to kill? what are some of the ideas you can think of?
How to improve Morinth?
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 03:53
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Who says she needs to improve? My Renegade psycho b¡tch Shepard LOVES Morinth. She's the only person she's loyal to other than herself. Only Morinth and Kasumi survived the Suicide Mission in that playthrough; The Butcher, The Killer, and The Thief.
So, maybe have her kill more people with asari mind voodoo?
So, maybe have her kill more people with asari mind voodoo?
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 03:54
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Drop the whole "posing as Samara" crap and let her wear her commando armor. Let her be herself. She's more fun when she's being Morinth and still interacting with the squad like on Tuchanka.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 03:55
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Nothing, she's perfect as she is.
She's beautiful, untouchable, and as cold as ice... and those eyes
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She's beautiful, untouchable, and as cold as ice... and those eyes
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 03:57
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Honestly, Morinth is kind of hilarious. She's built up as super-dangerous, then she starts talking about how she likes "dark places" and "dark music" and any ability to take her seriously disappears.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 03:57
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Don't get me wrong "I" love morinth as she currently is but alot of people seem to hate her and refuse to recruit her on principle so i'm just trying to figure out what would make the general public like morinth betterSiansonea II wrote...
Who says she needs to improve? My Renegade psycho b¡tch Shepard LOVES Morinth. She's the only person she's loyal to other than herself. Only Morinth and Kasumi survived the Suicide Mission in that playthrough; The Butcher, The Killer, and The Thief.
So, maybe have her kill more people with asari mind voodoo?
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 03:58
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Saphra Deden wrote...
Drop the whole "posing as Samara" crap and let her wear her commando armor. Let her be herself. She's more fun when she's being Morinth and still interacting with the squad like on Tuchanka.
Yeah, that whole "posing as Samara' is ridiculous. What's the point of replacing Samara with..... Samara? Besides nobody other than Jacob cares for her and none of the squadmates get bent out of shape over Shepard deliberately killing Wrex or Zaeed.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 03:59
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thatguy212 wrote...
Don't get me wrong "I" love morinth as she currently is but alot of people seem to hate her and refuse to recruit her on principle so i'm just trying to figure out what would make the general public like morinth betterSiansonea II wrote...
Who says she needs to improve? My Renegade psycho b¡tch Shepard LOVES Morinth. She's the only person she's loyal to other than herself. Only Morinth and Kasumi survived the Suicide Mission in that playthrough; The Butcher, The Killer, and The Thief.
So, maybe have her kill more people with asari mind voodoo?
It's the general public's loss, don't change her simply in an attempt to increase her fan base.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:01
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Well its just she's one of the characters i actually want to return as a squadmember (and hopefully as morinth and not as "samara") but it seems only the popular character have the best shot of returningAngelicMachinery wrote...
thatguy212 wrote...
Don't get me wrong "I" love morinth as she currently is but alot of people seem to hate her and refuse to recruit her on principle so i'm just trying to figure out what would make the general public like morinth betterSiansonea II wrote...
Who says she needs to improve? My Renegade psycho b¡tch Shepard LOVES Morinth. She's the only person she's loyal to other than herself. Only Morinth and Kasumi survived the Suicide Mission in that playthrough; The Butcher, The Killer, and The Thief.
So, maybe have her kill more people with asari mind voodoo?
It's the general public's loss, don't change her simply in an attempt to increase her fan base.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:14
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What would happen if a Ardat Yakshi mated with another Ardat Yakshi? The effect of dividing by zero?
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:23
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I see killing Morinth as a moral choice. If she were to change just so more people would feel happy with her, then she wouldn't be Morinth.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:26
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I don't think Morinth needs to be improved much, if at all. Obviously she's not going to be recruited heavily, she's basically Space Hannibal Lecter. Even your Renegade Shepard would have to be extra hardcore Renegade to pick her. I don't begrudge anyone who refuses to recruit her.
But she's an interesting character in her own right. I think all they need to do is make sure she shows up in ME3 in some not-insignificant way for those of us who do have Sheps who recruited her.
But she's an interesting character in her own right. I think all they need to do is make sure she shows up in ME3 in some not-insignificant way for those of us who do have Sheps who recruited her.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:27
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Well, giving her more than thirty seconds of conversation would be a good start.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:30
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Changing her would be character derailment. She is who she is, and she likes it.
That's why she's not alive in my canon playthrough. Or any of the other ones, for that matter.
That's why she's not alive in my canon playthrough. Or any of the other ones, for that matter.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:31
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I think the writers borrowed heavily the concept of preconceived intelligence before moral characterization from Dune's ambominations and the like when designing Morinth's character.
That said someone simply "amoral" would be difficult to improve upon. Perhaps, like psychopaths and anti-socials she can adopt a facade of morality. Otherwise, the character in itself is actually pathologically devoid of, well, "character".
That said someone simply "amoral" would be difficult to improve upon. Perhaps, like psychopaths and anti-socials she can adopt a facade of morality. Otherwise, the character in itself is actually pathologically devoid of, well, "character".
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:37
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I think they overreacted when they gave us 40 renegade points for saving Morinth. My Shepards always save her, paragon or renegade, in my eyes she needed more help from Shep than her mom, after you help her she tells you that she never felt the love of a person for long, that is not her fault. She really did not commit any crimes aside from being born different, she is gorgeous and sad, if people could see her pain before knowing her as a psycho who kills people during sex just because it's fun, she'd have way more fans. I love her, she's my second favorite character and has the best voice actress in my opinion, she'd be great as a full love interest instead of a one-time-killing-fling, if Shepard survived after sleeping with her it'd be like their love made him/her live, might have been cheesy but it'd make me love her even more than I already do.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:40
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franciscoamell wrote...
I think they overreacted when they gave us 40 renegade points for saving Morinth. My Shepards always save her, paragon or renegade, in my eyes she needed more help from Shep than her mom, after you help her she tells you that she never felt the love of a person for long, that is not her fault. She really did not commit any crimes aside from being born different, she is gorgeous and sad, if people could see her pain before knowing her as a psycho who kills people during sex just because it's fun, she'd have way more fans. I love her, she's my second favorite character and has the best voice actress in my opinion, she'd be great as a full love interest instead of a one-time-killing-fling, if Shepard survived after sleeping with her it'd be like their love made him/her live, might have been cheesy but it'd make me love her even more than I already do.
You got played Francis, you got played so hard.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 04:50
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I think she's fine as she is. A renegade's dream, an immoral killer. Best of all she does it with sex, which unfortunately you can't do with her, so my Shep just keeps her on a tight leash... however... should a way come up to block out her mind-meld...
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 05:00
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it would be interesting if she discovered a way to reproduce even though her mates still died. THAT would throw a whole new spin on her life. can you imagine a race of predators resembling sexy women that grow smarter and stronger with every person they sleep with and kill?
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 06:03
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She's a deranged serial killer.
Kind of hard to make that more likeable.
Kind of hard to make that more likeable.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 06:11
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I'm glad someone else sees that. If anything saving Morinth seems paragon to me. She's hunted for who she is by a crazy powerful biotic. She doesn't want to live in a cage for the way she was born, so gaining power from her lovers is more survival really. I know not many people agree with me, but I think these two characters are tragic and warped in similar ways. That's why the clear
paragon/renegade point distribution seems to take away from that moral ambiguity.
I'm glad someone else sees that. If anything saving Morinth seems paragon to me. She's hunted for who she is by a crazy powerful biotic. She doesn't want to live in a cage for the way she was born, so gaining power from her lovers is more survival really. I know not many people agree with me, but I think these two characters are tragic and warped in similar ways. That's why the clear
paragon/renegade point distribution seems to take away from that moral ambiguity.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 06:12
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Same as when two Falcon punches meet.TexasToast712 wrote...
What would happen if a Ardat Yakshi mated with another Ardat Yakshi? The effect of dividing by zero?
The universe implodes.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 06:20
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fenix8081 wrote...
@Franciscoamell
I'm glad someone else sees that. If anything saving Morinth seems paragon to me. She's hunted for who she is by a crazy powerful biotic. She doesn't want to live in a cage for the way she was born, so gaining power from her lovers is more survival really. I know not many people agree with me, but I think these two characters are tragic and warped in similar ways. That's why the clear
paragon/renegade point distribution seems to take away from that moral ambiguity.
Except there isn't any moral ambiguity at all even if you don't agree with the Justicars' methods.
Morinth is a serial killer who is sexually aroused by murdering people, and once convinced a backwater village that she was a godess, so they'd offer their daughters to her as sacrifices. She's an Asari version of Ted Bundy or Ed Gein. She doesn't deserve freedom.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 06:23
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She doesn't need improvement in her personality.
If shr needs improvement on: it's to make it so she doesn't sag so much. I tinally realised my problem with the female charafter models in mass Effect: their chest is down to their stomachs. 2 inches up would be a huge improvement.
And they need to make it this time where if you're Renegade score is high enough, she won't be able to kill Shepard. It sounds like they hint to that possibility when Morinth said that, Shepard might be the one strong enough to survive, but that it wasn't the right time.
If shr needs improvement on: it's to make it so she doesn't sag so much. I tinally realised my problem with the female charafter models in mass Effect: their chest is down to their stomachs. 2 inches up would be a huge improvement.
And they need to make it this time where if you're Renegade score is high enough, she won't be able to kill Shepard. It sounds like they hint to that possibility when Morinth said that, Shepard might be the one strong enough to survive, but that it wasn't the right time.
