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[Han Shot First]

Of course I mean from the Alliance's point of view, that's the only one that matters when discussing Shepard's Alliance rank, after all. But Shepard's KIA status gets rescinded as soon as he shows up, you know, alive. And since he's alive, that means he's been dodging the Alliance for two years. Shepard, you got some 'splainin' to do. And your Cerberus buddies aren't making the picture look too rosy.

Even so, if Shepard were posthumously promoted after the destruction of the SR1, he'd still hold that rank despite his later affiliation with Cerberus or destroying a Batarian star system.

The Alliance wouldn't be able to arbitrarily demote him. He can be demoted of course, but only if found guilty of some offense at a Court Martial, or whatever the Alliance equivalent of NJP (non-judicial punishment) is.

http://en.wikipedia....cial_punishment

But even with NJP he'd still have to stand before the man so to speak, before he could be demoted. That, and non judicial punishment is used for offenses that break the military's rules, but aren't necessarily criminal. (being drunk on duty for example, or insubordination) Shepard on the other hand is definitely in Court Martial territory.

My Shep'll steal it back but it's certainly not rightfully theres. 

You'd need a crew that was also sympathetic to Cerberus in order to do that. Since it sounds like we are back to working with the Alliance in ME3, I'm guessing you get an Alliance crew, and not your old Cerberus crew from Mass Effect 2. They'd most likely give you the Ash/Kaidan Horizon treatment if you attempted to turn the Normandy back over to Cerberus.

If you do have an Alliance crew, your Shepard would have to defect in the combat cockroach.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 06 juillet 2011 - 05:36 .

[elfdwarf]

captain anderson retire and give up his ship to commander lt xo shepard
making him captain of anderson's ship
anyone controls ship is captain
shepard use his nickname , it common for most people never use birth name

[Han Shot First]

elfdwarf wrote...

captain anderson retire and give up his ship to commander lt xo shepard
making him captain of anderson's ship
anyone controls ship is captain
shepard use his nickname , it common for most people never use birth name

You are confusing the rank of Captain with the captain billet. They are not the same thing.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Siansonea II wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

I see any possible promotion not as something fun to say look at my new rank but something to grease the wheels when trying to enlist the different Council races to follow you.

Which sounds better. Commander Shepard the twice fired Spectre or Supreme Commander Shepard appointed head of the Citadel Fleet?

Just seems that if you look at what's gone down with Shepard's carrer (being linked with a terrorist group, blowing up a relay, being put on trial) that you'd need something to counter balance that. Sure he's right about Reapers excisting but without solid backing from the Council I find it hard that many would follow him. And no being reinstated as a Commander by a guy whoose probably going to die 4 minutes after we leave Earth isn't good enough.

I think the title "Guy Who Was Right About The Reapers All Along" should get their attention more than anything.

How many people wear signs no their bodies that read 'The World Will End!" and talk about the end of days? If one day the sky starts reinging down fire are you going to put that crazy person in charge or will you say 'gee maybe you were right.... now get out of my way.'

[PARAGON87]

In the eyes of the quarians he's a Captain. That has to count for something.

[Haristo]

''I'm general Shepard and this is my Favourite store in the citadel''

nay... its sounds horrible...

[Siansonea]

PARAGON87 wrote...

In the eyes of the quarians he's a Captain. That has to count for something.

It does. To quarians. The Alliance's response would be something along the lines of "lulwut".

[Han Shot First]

PARAGON87 wrote...

In the eyes of the quarians he's a Captain. That has to count for something.

You are confusing the rank of Captain with the captain billet. There are not the same thing.

The Quarians were calling him a captain in the sense that he's the commanding officer of a warship. The person in command of a ship is always referred to as the captain of the ship, whether or not they hold the rank of Captain. (Shepard doesn't) When captain is used in that way it is referring to the commanding officer's billet.

To use an example in an infantry squad you may have a squad leader that is a Sergeant. Sergeant would be his rank, and squad leader is his billet.

With 'Captain' it just can be a little confusing in that the word is used for both a rank and a billet, but they aren't the same thing.

[PARAGON87]

Han Shot First wrote...

You are confusing the rank of Captain with the captain billet. There are not the same thing.

The Quarians were calling him a captain in the sense that he's the commanding officer of a warship. The person in command of a ship is always referred to as the captain of the ship, whether or not they hold the rank of Captain. (Shepard doesn't) When captain is used in that way it is referring to the commanding officer's billet.

To use an example in an infantry squad you may have a squad leader that is a Sergeant. Sergeant would be his rank, and squad leader is his billet.

With 'Captain' it just can be a little confusing in that the word is used for both a rank and a billet, but they aren't the same thing.

I know, I was only joking. 

Besides, after this whole galactic Reaper invasion, Shepard will be Admiral Hackett's commanding officer anyway (or dead). 

[HighMoon]

No. In fact, demote Shepard to the role of janitor. I'd look forward to seeing how s/he responds.

[Siansonea]

Golden-Rose wrote...

No. In fact, demote Shepard to the role of janitor. I'd look forward to seeing how s/he responds.

Please, no toilet-cleaning minigames, BioWare!

[m00nsh1ne]

If we see a promotion it'll only be at the end of the game after you've already saved everyone or given posthumously if you die. But at that point if I was Shep and I survived they best be giving me any damn thing I want lol.

[Destroy Raiden_]

If shep's a spector he doesn't need a promotion.

[Elessara]

@Han Shot First ... Shepard will even mention this during Tali's loyalty mission. When greeted as Captain Shepard, h/she can say they were never actually promoted and the quarians will respond with yes but you captain a ship, etc. I thought that was a nice touch.

I honestly don't think it matters if Kaidan outranks Shepard in ME3. If they're both going to be Spectres then military rank means nothing to them anyway as they would both be outside the Alliance command structure and no longer technically in the Alliance at all.

Edit:  Ok, I forgot that Shepard doesn't always get reinstated as a Spectre in ME2.  I'd imagine that reinstatement would come in pretty quickly though once they find out that the Reapers are real and attacking Earth.

Modifié par Elessara, 06 juillet 2011 - 06:25 .

[DarthSlim108]

Haha with all this talk of continuing the franchise after ME3, your character in the next game could take orders from Admiral Shepard like you did with Hackett in ME1.

[Ahriman]

I suppose Alliance is not a country which promotes mass murderers and deserters.

[JunMadine]

Promotion or no I will not let anyone take the Normandy from my command. Well, maybe Anderson but that is it and only if I am not there.  Alenko better know his place.

Modifié par JunMadine, 06 juillet 2011 - 06:57 .

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Well after the Reapers kill off most of Earth's military forces, Shepard won't need a promotion, he/she might be in charge as a Commander.

[Kadzin]

General Shepard does sound kind of badass though...

[Mysten]

Lukertin wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...
Nah.

It's like promoting Master Chief.

Not at all, because Master Chief is the highest enlisted rank in the Navy. Promoting John-117 would require giving him an officer's commission, and then you would have to call him Ensign. Ensign sounds stupid compared to Master Chief.

John earns the rank of Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy posthumously; you can see the new insignia on the war memorial at the end of Halo 3.

[InfoGuy101]

I think he should get a field promotion after the initial Reaper attack on Earth as it would be logical as nearly everyone associated with him in the Alliance has been promoted (Ashley William, Kaidan Alenko and now Admiral Anderson) and Shepard has done the work to deserve it. Maybe not Supreme Commander (though I like the sound of that lol) but at least Captain.

Also yes him being call Commander Shepard is iconic but if he's joining up with Alliance again in ME3 the rank might be essential when making decisions involving the Alliance military also there's nothing saying that Commander could just be his nick name to others outside the Alliance as they are not part of the military and don't have to be formal.

Modifié par InfoGuy101, 06 juillet 2011 - 08:04 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Yes, just so he can call himself Major Shepard or Captain Shepard at parties.

[Ryzaki]

Nope. My Shep's fine in his position. He's going freelance as soon as possible anyway. F*** the Alliance. ...and Cerberus....and the Council.

[Nerdage]

At the end of ME3? Perhaps.

On his way out of a genocide trial? Perhaps not.

To be honest I think Spectre gives you all the authority you need for the time being, a prompt reinstatement at the start of the game for players who didn't take it in ME2 and all's well.