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[ThePwener]

I couldn't care less. With the whole galaxy in chaos, I think the chain of command will go to hell.

[TobiTobsen]

Golden-Rose wrote...

No. In fact, demote Shepard to the role of janitor. I'd look forward to seeing how s/he responds.

Janitor? Like in Almighty Janitor?



And we all pity the fool who demoted him!

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 06 juillet 2011 - 08:43 .

[The Mythical Magician]

Switch my Rank to Holy and I'll be happy.

[seirhart]

shepard should become the supreme commander of all military forces - fleet/fighter and ground troops.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Golden-Rose wrote...

No. In fact, demote Shepard to the role of janitor. I'd look forward to seeing how s/he responds.

Who is the Super Hero?

Anderson? No...

Kelly the Counselor? No...

Shepard, the mild mannered Janitor? COOOOOULD BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Commander Shepard, number one super guy/gal!

[Repzik]

General Shepard would be terrible. Too MW2 for me.

[Captain Crash]

In the current circumstances no she shouldn't.

She is about to get tried on Earth for the death of 300,000 people with only her words as defence as no one is going to believe the Reaper story (until they appear). Its clear at best she would get a court-martial. Worst put in prison (or both).


Theres not really any justification for a promotion in the current situation. I think she's still lucky to have the rank of Commander when the Reapers do arrive!!

[InfoGuy101]

Captain Crash wrote...

In the current circumstances no she shouldn't.

She is about to get tried on Earth for the death of 300,000 people with only her words as defence as no one is going to believe the Reaper story (until they appear). Its clear at best she would get a court-martial. Worst put in prison (or both).


Theres not really any justification for a promotion in the current situation. I think she's still lucky to have the rank of Commander when the Reapers do arrive!!

And after they arrive?

[Captain Crash]

I dont think field promotions are going to add anything to my game experience after that point. You leave Earth as Commander and in a chaotic environment of ME3 Admiral Hacket suddenly just says you a Captain now. Doesnt add anything really.

She is and always will be Commander Shepard in many peoples eyes. The title is part of the brand image. Its even on the back of the box " As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine...

I know logically she does stuff far above her rank but theres no point in just promoting her for the sake of it. Especially mid point in the last game of the trilogy.

[InfoGuy101]

Captain Crash wrote...

I dont think field promotions are going to add anything to my game experience after that point. You leave Earth as Commander and in a chaotic environment of ME3 Admiral Hacket suddenly just says you a Captain now. Doesnt add anything really.

She is and always will be Commander Shepard in many peoples eyes. The title is part of the brand image. Its even on the back of the box " As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine...

I know logically she does stuff far above her rank but theres no point in just promoting her for the sake of it. Especially mid point in the last game of the trilogy.

If ranks are pointless why not just remove ranks all together? It seems redundent to me to give someone a ranked postion in a military organization if in essence it doesn't mean anything.

[Pride Demon]

Han Shot First wrote...

There are at least two Commander ranks in the Alliance military, Lt Commander and Staff Commander, with Staff Commander being the higher ranking of the two. Shep as of  the beginning of ME2 is a Lt Commander and as of ME3, Kaidan Alenko is a Staff Commander.

Shep should be promoted to Staff Commander. As a Staff Commander he'd still be referred to as Commander in the game, and Kaidan wouldn't outrank him.

^This.

Shepard is iconic, and for maketing icons tend to be very important...
He/she has been marked as Commander Shepard, and thus that's what he/she will be referred to in game, it helps with the buyers...

Given this it's unlikely he'll become captain or something further up in game (maybe at the end of the game as reward for saving the galaxy, but not before), however promoting him/her to Staff Commander will make everyone happy: he/she stays Commander and gets the promotion...
After all even now it's not like they call him/her Lieutenant Commander Shepard, they just call him/her Commander Shepard...
It doesn't even have to be stressed to much, it may be mentioned once he/she is now Staff Commander (maybe some congrats will fly) and then everyone keeps calling him/her Commander...

Here's something I made some time ago with this in mind... Never used it not to unbalance my perfectly calibrated balanced signature, but if someone wants it go ahead...



It's not perfect or fancy, but it's something...

Modifié par Pride Demon, 06 juillet 2011 - 10:55 .

[The Unfallen]

Shepard is a Lieutenant Commander in ME 1 and 2 so I don't think promoting him to Commander or Staff Commander would be too out of the question or realm of possibility.

[Captain Crash]

InfoGuy101 wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

I dont think field promotions are going to add anything to my game experience after that point. You leave Earth as Commander and in a chaotic environment of ME3 Admiral Hacket suddenly just says you a Captain now. Doesnt add anything really.

She is and always will be Commander Shepard in many peoples eyes. The title is part of the brand image. Its even on the back of the box " As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine...

I know logically she does stuff far above her rank but theres no point in just promoting her for the sake of it. Especially mid point in the last game of the trilogy.

If ranks are pointless why not just remove ranks all together? It seems redundent to me to give someone a ranked postion in a military organization if in essence it doesn't mean anything.

They are not pointless.  Im not sure how your jumping to that conclusion. As I pointed out she is "Commander Shepard" its her title and image.   Its not a pointless rank and Bioware have been clever with it.  She can command a vessel with that rank and a crew.   If shes still in command of the Normandy then having the rank of Captain is irrelevant.  Can she command a fleet with the Captain title in the military,  No.  So its a pointless promotion in gaming terms.  You cant do anything extra with the rank and you are still doing exactly the same stuff you had been doing.  It adds nothing to the game.   If you got promoted somehow to Admiral then it would impact the game as you can now command fleets.  


As Pride Demon his just re-iterated because this is the core of it:

Pride Demon wrote...

He/she has been marked as Commander Shepard, and thus that's what he/she will be referred to in game, it helps with the buyers...

Modifié par Captain Crash, 06 juillet 2011 - 11:04 .

[Someone With Mass]

Get your Spectre status back or tell anyone who gives you orders to go F themselves.

No need for promotion.

[AngryFrozenWater]

In ME1 Shepard was supposed to be loyal to the Council. I guess spectres don't have an hierarchy. So ranks are pretty useless there. In ME3 it will be most likely the same.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 06 juillet 2011 - 11:05 .

[InfoGuy101]

Captain Crash wrote...

InfoGuy101 wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

I dont think field promotions are going to add anything to my game experience after that point. You leave Earth as Commander and in a chaotic environment of ME3 Admiral Hacket suddenly just says you a Captain now. Doesnt add anything really.

She is and always will be Commander Shepard in many peoples eyes. The title is part of the brand image. Its even on the back of the box " As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine...

I know logically she does stuff far above her rank but theres no point in just promoting her for the sake of it. Especially mid point in the last game of the trilogy.

If ranks are pointless why not just remove ranks all together? It seems redundent to me to give someone a ranked postion in a military organization if in essence it doesn't mean anything.

They not pointless.  Im not sure how your jumping to that conclusion. As I pointed out she is "Commander Shepard" its her title and image.   Its not a pointless rank and Bioware have been clever with it.  She can command a vessel with that rank and a crew.   If shes still in command of the Normandy then having the rank of Captain is irrelevant.  Can she command a fleet with the Captain title in the military,  No.  So its a pointless promotion in gaming terms.  You cant do anything extra with the rank and you are still doing exactly the same stuff you had been doing.  It adds nothing to the game.   If you got promoted somehow to Admiral then it would impact the game as you can now command fleets.  

As you pointed out Shepard does things above his/her rank which is understandable in ME1 but it does make his/her rank redundent and if he/she does the same in ME3 then it really doesn't matter what his/her rank is.

Anyway they will most probably not change it as there won't be a situation that would call for his/her rank to be higher as you've said which is disappointing.... 

Modifié par InfoGuy101, 06 juillet 2011 - 11:18 .

[Brawne]

What would he do with those extra ranks. Not like he would start commanding every single unit.
His job is as it's always been to be the instigator, little rock that causes massive avalanche in the end.

[KLUME777]

I don't think there's a whole lot of time or need for promotions when Earth is under attack from the Reapers. Also, if ive missed something obvious here, its probably because im trying to ignore spoilers for ME3.

[sighineedname]

I'm not sure I understand the marketing argument. Are people going to return the game in a fit of rage if he gets promoted during it? I mean he's still Commander Shepard at the start, so I don't see why the advertising would say differently.

[DragonRageGT]

No promotion needed for my Shepard. But it would be nice if him/her receive a plaque from the
Salarians with a Honorary STG Commander citation!

Mass Effect - Hold The Line

Modifié par RageGT, 06 juillet 2011 - 03:51 .

[MegaBadExample]

Uhh...Hello, Best of what humanity has to offer-- Can't get better.

[Zkyire]

Siansonea II wrote...


I think the title "Guy Who Was Right About The "Reapers" All Along" should get their attention more than anything.

Fixed.

[TheMakoMaster]

champion of kirkwa.....i mean the milky way.  assuming he wins.

Modifié par TheMakoMaster, 06 juillet 2011 - 01:27 .

[Augustei]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Since Shepard is going to be saving the galaxy and building an army to take down the Reapers am I the only one that thinks Shepard should get an official promotion? In ME1 we were promoted to a Spectre which was good enough all we had to do was find a crazy Turian but now we're going to be giving orders to entire armies it seems that the rank of Spectre is too small for something like that. Maybe the Council could give Shepard emergency authority so he'd be in charge of the major military decisions (LIke focusing all resources on Earth).

Maybe Supreme Commander Shepard? Who thinks Shepard should get official athority from the Council or the Alliance? Do you think he needs it or would you prefer not to get that kind of power?

Yeah.. The guy getting Court Marshalled needs a promotion =P

[ArcanistLibram]

I don't think Shepard is part of any military hierarchy by Mass Effect 2. Their Spectre status might get reinstated, but that's not an actual military rank and the Alliance probably still has them officially listed as MIA. They should technically be promoted to Captain, but that's mostly because they're in charge of the Normandy.

It's likely Commander Shepard just stuck with everyone and nobody sees the point of changing it.