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[Tirfan]

I did this, the only way to to actually complete the game, I told myself the storyline was going to be good, okay, it sucked at the beginning but I seriously told and believed myself that it was going to be the one redeeming feature about the game.. and well, it wasn't. It still is the second worst game I have ever played.

[whykikyouwhy]

Even with awesome-looking trailers flashing before me, I try to go into every game with low expectations. Then I'm usually pleasantly surprised by the results.

I'm in the "actually and sincerely thought DA2 was a good game" camp.

[Ronin2006]

Tirfan wrote...

I did this, the only way to to actually complete the game, I told myself the storyline was going to be good, okay, it sucked at the beginning but I seriously told and believed myself that it was going to be the one redeeming feature about the game.. and well, it wasn't. It still is the second worst game I have ever played.

The second worst?  Now I need to know, what's the worst?

[Tirfan]

^ Final Fantasy VIII. That game, it is so bad I don't even have the words to describe how bad it was.

[Cutlass Jack]

Tirfan wrote...

^ Final Fantasy VIII. That game, it is so bad I don't even have the words to describe how bad it was.

Well I agree with this much at least. The game is so bad it required the codex to explain how bad it was. Edit: whups I thought you said XIII. That'll teach me to respond before having coffee. 13 was horrid. 14 was even worse.

As for DA2, no I didn't have to tell myself. I figured it out on my own.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 06 juillet 2011 - 10:21 .

[Yrkoon]

True story:  I not only  managed to convince myself it was a good game, but even after  being bored to tears with the recycled  maps and the endless waves, I managed to convince myself that  it was a deliberate part of the narrative.,.. that Varric was trying to Bore Cassanda to sleep so that he could escape and then the  *real* part of  Dragon age 2 would begin.   I half expected  Cassandra to  cut varric off, mid-sentence, and say something to the effect of:  "Bullsh*t, Dwarf, stop  repeating yourself already and tell me something NEW.

But when it didn't happen, I suddenly came to the realization that this  game was  NOT that good.  That it was something very VERY alien to Bioware: a bad, uninspired, uncreative, game.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 juillet 2011 - 10:42 .

[Yrkoon]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...


EDIT: I refuse to believe anyone who says the Witcher games are any better than Dragon Age II though (well actually The Witcher I and II are slightly better but I suppose it comes down to personal preference) The Witcher was just such a drag for me to play and I still haven't finished The Witcher II (but I am enjoying it and I did enjoy the Witcher just not as much as I did DA II)

 I hesitate to even compare the two games  (TW2 vs. DA2) because they're so deliberately different from one another.  But when someone forces me to stack them together and make a comparison,  then YES, I'd say  the Witcher 2  is heads and shoulders above DA2.  It just does so many things so much better:  story, atmosphere, style, pacing,  Even the sex scenes are more memorable.

DA2 wins points on the fact that it's more "classic"  (it's party based,  more classes, more spell choices, more combat talent choices, more interesting loot)  But  even THAT stuff isn't enough to  make things equal.  Not when it fails so horribly  in its  presentation, and game world choices, and story...   you know, the fundamental things that we RPG fans look for in an RPG.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 juillet 2011 - 11:05 .

[jmadsen]

i liked it

[Nick1973]

As a good sage man in this forum said:
Dragonage 2 was a good rpg
Dragonage 2 was a bad rpg of bioware.
Point. Nor dlc or expansion could change that.
Booom!

[Last Darkness]

I liked it enough, though recycled as the enviroments were most of the game takes place in the city so I cant say thats something that should change often...

I understand the tech problems why they did it as well.

Overall I thought it was good and enjoyed it.

[TEWR]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Tirfan wrote...

^ Final Fantasy VIII. That game, it is so bad I don't even have the words to describe how bad it was.

Well I agree with this much at least. The game is so bad it required the codex to explain how bad it was. Edit: whups I thought you said XIII. That'll teach me to respond before having coffee. 13 was horrid. 14 was even worse.

As for DA2, no I didn't have to tell myself. I figured it out on my own.

The only thing I hated about XIII was the lack of exploration, but XIII-2 is going to fix that so I'm glad. I loved XIII's story and characters.


I mean, come on. Sazh Katzroy. Dude has a chocobo chick living in his motherf*cking afro! That's just awesome right there.

[KilrB]

That's what I kept telling myself after the demo. <_<

It was only a demo right?

Laidlaw and Co. said the game would be better ... they wouldn't lie to us would they?

[Sutekh]

Not the sequel I was expecting, but a good game, and I enjoyed it. Several times.

A bit inconsistent, though. When it's good, it's really good, but when it's bad...

[Graspiloot]

I have just finished my first playthrough (this year I was swamped so I couldn't get around to buying and playing it), so I started with patch 1.3. As far as I've heard a lot of improvements have been made since the start.
I personally enjoyed it a lot. Origins is probably the better made game, but I enjoyed DA2 more. Yes the recycled environments and waves were handled poorly. But I enjoyed the combat a lot more, I find it one of the more tedious things in Origins. Went back to Origins yesterday (I still need to play Warrior for my platinum trophy.. Just can't get myself to finish it), and I really realised how much the combat was better in DA2. Also when I heard I had to go in the Deep Roads/Fade I was feeling really depressed, because I thought it would be like the deep roads and fade levels in Origins, but I thought it was handled much better.
I found the biggest problem with the mage story that all the mages are bloodmages.... If I hadn't played Origins to know that they could do better I wouldv thought they weren't worth saving. But yeah the Origins substories had similar problems, because it wasn't convincing they actually had enough soldiers left to form an army. But yeah noone can explain that like KoP, so I won't even try that.

[Cutlass Jack]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The only thing I hated about XIII was the lack of exploration, but XIII-2 is going to fix that so I'm glad. I loved XIII's story and characters.


I mean, come on. Sazh Katzroy. Dude has a chocobo chick living in his motherf*cking afro! That's just awesome right there.

XIII was crap. Lack of exploration is an understatement. The game ran on rails from beginning to end and required no choice whatsoever. Could play the whole game just running in a straight line and hitting X continually. The sad part is the only real reason for that level of Linearity is to tell a solid story and it failed on that. You were forced to read the codex to have the slightest clue what was going on.

I say this even though I thought the game was gorgeous and liked the characters. Except Hope. I swear I spent most of the game wishing he was the one that fell to his death and I got his mother instead.


I'll be giving XIII-2 a pretty wide pass. I'm surprised they're making it to begin with.

[Tirfan]

^ I wouldn't touch XIII no matter what, a friend, who for some unimaginable reasons still buys every FF game told me it was even worse than X, which, he told me, was even worse than VIII, and while I don't really see how that is possible, I don't want to risk it and be proven wrong.

[Ainmarh]

I actually genuinely think this was a good game.

[Auroras]

Nah. I actually thought it was a good game.

[Midz]

Yrkoon wrote...

SkittlesKat96 wrote...


EDIT: I refuse to believe anyone who says the Witcher games are any better than Dragon Age II though (well actually The Witcher I and II are slightly better but I suppose it comes down to personal preference) The Witcher was just such a drag for me to play and I still haven't finished The Witcher II (but I am enjoying it and I did enjoy the Witcher just not as much as I did DA II)

 I hesitate to even compare the two games  (TW2 vs. DA2) because they're so deliberately different from one another.  But when someone forces me to stack them together and make a comparison,  then YES, I'd say  the Witcher 2  is heads and shoulders above DA2.  It just does so many things so much better:  story, atmosphere, style, pacing,  Even the sex scenes are more memorable.

  (if you are able to play maybe )
  ah you  missed  there excelent forum support ....

                                                                             ...ie  TW  forums vanished after  complaints that    some could  not play  the game and  have still not returned .Of course  the complaints  and  missing  forums  are  not  connected   who  could  think  that.
                                                                                     But EA  and  bioware stop listening  for weeks  and weeks .

CDP  are not  all wonderfull  and bioware/ea not all bad ..

[Chuvvy]

I had to tell my self to keep playing through act 1 thinking it would get better. It did, but it ended up peaking in act two.

[Kileyan]

Not a huge fan of the game, no I didn't try to convince myself it was good. I definitely realized it was just a chore after the errand boy lead up the the anti-climatic Deep Roads.

The game would have gotten a 3 out of 10 rating except for one saving grace. I found Varric, Aveline and Isabella great characters. No, actually I found all of the characters fairly well done, even if I didn't like some of their personalities. It is a shame that some of my favorite characters Bioware has ever done will be associated with this game, and hinder their chances of ever being seen again.

Oh, and I actually didn't like my character that much, Hawke was sort of a wishy washy stoner who seemed to just stumble through things and only actually do something if cornered and had no choice. The supporting cast was much more interesting that Hawke and his whole family plot, although I did like the uncle a bit towards the end.

[erynnar]

It took a mage playthrough to bring any smidgen of enjoyment for me. And it did, bring enjoyment despite the recycled maps, the three disjointed stories loosely (very) tied together, the lack of details on items, the lack of details period, the ninja partrooping waves of enemies, oh and the plot holes (especially playing a mage) big enough to drive a fleet of 747's being pulled by mammoths through, etc., etc., etc..

Still a game splendid in its mediocrity, and poor by BioWare standards. Sorry, BioWare, you spoiled me and DA2 was not up to your high standards.

Modifié par erynnar, 07 juillet 2011 - 06:40 .

[TEWR]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The only thing I hated about XIII was the lack of exploration, but XIII-2 is going to fix that so I'm glad. I loved XIII's story and characters.


I mean, come on. Sazh Katzroy. Dude has a chocobo chick living in his motherf*cking afro! That's just awesome right there.

XIII was crap. Lack of exploration is an understatement. The game ran on rails from beginning to end and required no choice whatsoever. Could play the whole game just running in a straight line and hitting X continually. The sad part is the only real reason for that level of Linearity is to tell a solid story and it failed on that. You were forced to read the codex to have the slightest clue what was going on.

I say this even though I thought the game was gorgeous and liked the characters. Except Hope. I swear I spent most of the game wishing he was the one that fell to his death and I got his mother instead.


I'll be giving XIII-2 a pretty wide pass. I'm surprised they're making it to begin with.

I despised the linearity too. I guess two pirates are gonna have to disagree (I'm a dwarf pirate ), as I thought the story was incredible. I also thought the combat was tactical. Well.... only in boss fights. Common enemies were easy. But the boss fights were spectaculous.


I didn't even need to read the codex.


I will say this though. When landing on Pulse I found it impossible to believe the entire world had no humans living on it at all. Thankfully, XIII-2 has a protagonist who is from Pulse, so I'm glad that the world isn't entirely desolate.


The music score for XIII was amazing too. Oerba Village's theme actually made me tear up.

[Kilshrek]

Not once mate, especially by the end game I was facepalming more than playing. Actually I facepalmed during most boss fights, simply because of the ridiculously tricked out health bars they sported.

And I facepalmed during a certain end game event, and another one right after that. A cumulative headdesk I suppose. But all in all it was a fun ride, not one that I'd care too much to repeat though.