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[E-MailA.K.A.Mr.Fox]

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite extinction in the galaxy.

[Good Chaos7]

I've put a lot of time into my character in ME 1 & 2. I don't like the idea.

[alihou]

It isn't good... It makes all our hours of playing time useless... all this hard work for some other random race to finish the job we started? Come on!...

[nitrog100]

That would be an excellent potential ending. At least you would know that all your effort was not wasted and that you made a difference in the next fight against the Reapers that may very well tip the balance in favor of organics.

[E-MailA.K.A.Mr.Fox]

Good Chaos7 wrote...

I've put a lot of time into my character in ME 1 & 2. I don't like the idea.

whats not to like? you seem like the ME gamer that only plays one way every time, the way i see it, the more potential outcomes the better the experience for gamers who like to do things differently.

Dont get me wrong, i applaud your opinion and i hope you can see my point without it being seen like an attack of your playstyle.

[RobinTheRude]

This ought to be a potential ending, if things go badly enough.
I'm not sure why people seem so upset about 'the hours they spent on their characters being wasted'.
You'll most likely be able to straight up save the day, anyway. If you don't want that ending, work towards a 'better' one. You can't expect the game to hand you the best possible outcome with little effort on your side.

[Jebel Krong]

i thought that's what the prothean globes might be for... as a "defeat" ending, it might be interesting to have a sequence preparing the next set of civilizations for a rude awakening.

[Candidate 88766]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

I really want this to be a potential ending - Shepard realises he has failed and has to find ways of warning the next civilization. Perhaps the final scenes of this ending involve some new species interacting with a Vigil-like version of Shepard, 50,000 years after ME3, and then showing that species going on to finally defeat the Reapers. If done right it would be the ultimate bittersweet ending.

People who didnt get Mouse to give them a copy of the Shepard VI are screwed then . 

I knew it was a good idea to get one of those!

[Gorlist187]

#1
Shepard saves the galaxy with minimal cost,(acheivable only if you hit a certain formula from mass 1 and 2 in chain succession to the choices in the third.....) basically the best possible ending

#2 Same as the first one only Shepard sacrifices his life to acheive it ( mainly by not the same formula used to get a perfact ending)

#3 Average Victory, mission accomplished, some heavy losses (player choice and typical formula of "Its either one or the other decisions like in ARRIVAL DLC) this ending probubly turns out ending in a wide range of ways, and considered "endings" all in their own catagory

#4 failure "you did your Best, but the game proved just too difficult for you to make the right decisions, and you allmost won out....but it was just a nail biter and became an acceptable ending
(perhaps play mass 1 and 2 again to fix those errors that would of put you over the hill for a win hmmm)

#5 Absolute TRAIN WRECK FAILURE - A person getting this one is either An ****hat, a total moron, or intentionally getting this ending because they thought it would be funny...and since it is available to do why not see the cinematics for watching everything die.....this Ending Would be Easy way to finish the game, and perhaps 6 total hours of gameplay haha

[this isnt my name]

I can tell im going to be drowned out by the people who want to win, but I prefer this ending, or just choosing between survival by becoming a reaper, or choosing extinction over helpin thier cycle.

Defeating the reapers to me would ruin the story. Then again thier stupidity thanks writers for making them idiots when convenient) already has.

[crimzontearz]

yeah.....no thanks

[Casterdael]

If the Reapers are defeated in Mass Effect 3 I will be severely dissapointed(in the best ending). It just doesn't seem possible given the events in the original Mass Effect.

[Medhia Nox]

I'll never understand the "this just makes the whole story pointless".

So - when a person dies, their whole story was pointless? Because - mom and dad may not have told everyone yet, but have I got some depressing news coming down the pipe for some of you.

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You know, there are evil people even after Sauron is defeated and the One Ring is destroyed.

Harry Potter has some kids, who go to Hogwarts, just like he did - he will die, as will the rest of his gang, and new evil baddies will pop up. Making everything Harry did - useless.

My god... you just can't keep a good Terminator down. They just keep coming... and coming. And the future STILL isn't stopped... useless series of movies.

Do you guys seriously want stories to be contained in their own static bubble instead of a dynamic world that lived before, and will continue after (even if the "after" is a galaxy filled with new species?)

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That being said... the "death to all sentient life" thing isn't really of interest to me. Doesn't seem like a compelling story - but it's not because I feel it would make the first two games pointless.

[this isnt my name]

Medhia Nox wrote...

I'll never understand the "this just makes the whole story pointless".

So - when a person dies, their whole story was pointless? Because - mom and dad may not have told everyone yet, but have I got some depressing news coming down the pipe for some of you.

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You know, there are evil people even after Sauron is defeated and the One Ring is destroyed.

Harry Potter has some kids, who go to Hogwarts, just like he did - he will die, as will the rest of his gang, and new evil baddies will pop up. Making everything Harry did - useless.

My god... you just can't keep a good Terminator down. They just keep coming... and coming. And the future STILL isn't stopped... useless series of movies.

Do you guys seriously want stories to be contained in their own static bubble instead of a dynamic world that lived before, and will continue after (even if the "after" is a galaxy filled with new species?)

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That being said... the "death to all sentient life" thing isn't really of interest to me. Doesn't seem like a compelling story - but it's not because I feel it would make the first two games pointless.

Yeah a new world would be interesting. it has more potential, you could be the next agent bringing the next cycle or something. It would be interesting even if they arent envolved, knowing they are shaping the world.

Ok read "The Road" tell me was it pointless ? Was it bad ?
Play RDR was it pointless or bad ?

Or lets just use life as an example. 


That fate was sealed the moment you were born. Is life suddenly pointless ?

[Whatever42]

I see the "everyone should die" crowd is still around!

This isn't dead space. While I can see an ending like this as an option like Shepard dying in ME2 is an option, its not going to be a commonly played one. In fact, you're probably going to have to work at getting it.

[this isnt my name]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

I see the "everyone should die" crowd is still around!

This isn't dead space. While I can see an ending like this as an option like Shepard dying in ME2 is an option, its not going to be a commonly played one. In fact, you're probably going to have to work at getting it.

Not everyone dies in deadspace. Besides necromorphs are belivabel enemies. Most of them need to get close to kill you. Only one that should have killed Issac is the hive mind.

Here its compeltely different. BW hyped something up, and are now going to sruggle so we can kill it without totally ruining the story. Either way for the sake of the story reapers should win.

[Whatever42]

this isnt my name wrote...

Not everyone dies in deadspace. Besides necromorphs are belivabel enemies. Most of them need to get close to kill you. Only one that should have killed Issac is the hive mind.

Here its compeltely different. BW hyped something up, and are now going to sruggle so we can kill it without totally ruining the story. Either way for the sake of the story reapers should win.

I mentioned deadspace because it's horror genre. Mass effect is based off 1980s sci-fi and space opera. Reapers aren't going to win any more than the bad guys won in Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, Babylon 5, even Firefly.  If Bioware suddenly changed gears and turned this into a dark apocalypse, their fans would riot and I would doubt the sanity of the writers.

Sorry, but unless you deliberately game to lose, the Reapers aren't going to win.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 07 juillet 2011 - 01:39 .

[GiggleLooper]

this isnt my name wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

I see the "everyone should die" crowd is still around!

This isn't dead space. While I can see an ending like this as an option like Shepard dying in ME2 is an option, its not going to be a commonly played one. In fact, you're probably going to have to work at getting it.

Not everyone dies in deadspace. Besides necromorphs are belivabel enemies. Most of them need to get close to kill you. Only one that should have killed Issac is the hive mind.

Here its compeltely different. BW hyped something up, and are now going to sruggle so we can kill it without totally ruining the story. Either way for the sake of the story reapers should win.

Dude you are a troller. I've come across a number of your posts and all you do is slag off the ME series. If your only purpose on this forum is to argue with everyone, then we don't want you. Now smeg off!

Modifié par GiggleLooper, 07 juillet 2011 - 01:50 .

[Smeelia]

this isnt my name wrote...

Here its compeltely different. BW hyped something up, and are now going to sruggle so we can kill it without totally ruining the story. Either way for the sake of the story reapers should win.

The fact is, things don't always go the way they seem most likely to.  If they didn't build the Reapers up to be powerful then there'd be no effort needed to defeat them, if being powerful automatically meant you would win then there'd be no point in trying to fight them.

The whole series has been about "beating the odds", I doubt that'll change in the end.  If they present it right then falling at the final hurdle could make for an excellent ending but I don't think it'd be inherently better than what they could do with a victory.

One problem is that if they "destroy" the universe they'll basically lose all the effort they put into creating it and wont find it as easy to use for future products (they could set them before/during the destruction but there's a risk that people will be less interested if they feel they know where things are going).  I think that'd be a shame, I'd probably still be interested in exploring past conflicts and the goings on of the universe pre-Reapers but I can't say for sure the whole "Reaper's destroy everything eventually" situation wouldn't bother me at all.

Modifié par Smeelia, 07 juillet 2011 - 01:59 .

[this isnt my name]

GiggleLooper wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

I see the "everyone should die" crowd is still around!

This isn't dead space. While I can see an ending like this as an option like Shepard dying in ME2 is an option, its not going to be a commonly played one. In fact, you're probably going to have to work at getting it.

Not everyone dies in deadspace. Besides necromorphs are belivabel enemies. Most of them need to get close to kill you. Only one that should have killed Issac is the hive mind.

Here its compeltely different. BW hyped something up, and are now going to sruggle so we can kill it without totally ruining the story. Either way for the sake of the story reapers should win.

Dude you are a troller. I've come across a number of your posts and all you do is slag off the ME series. If your only purpose on this forum is to argue with everyone, then we don't want you. Now smeg off!

Go back to kissing ass biodrone. Anyone who dosent worship mass effect and bioware as the second coming of christ is a troll on this forum.

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

Not
everyone dies in deadspace. Besides necromorphs are belivabel enemies.
Most of them need to get close to kill you. Only one that should have
killed Issac is the hive mind.

Here its compeltely different. BW
hyped something up, and are now going to sruggle so we can kill it
without totally ruining the story. Either way for the sake of the story
reapers should win.

I mentioned deadspace because
it's horror genre. Mass effect is based off 1980s sci-fi and space
opera. Reapers aren't going to win any more than the bad guys won in
Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, Babylon 5, even Firefly.  If
Bioware suddenly changed gears and turned this into a dark apocalypse,
their fans would riot and I would doubt the sanity of the writers.

Sorry, but unless you deliberately game to lose, the Reapers aren't going to win.

I doubt thier sanity anyway. Why make a race of machine gods, only to nerf them so the inferior, ill equiped, ill organised, and less intelignet group wins ?

They are sacraficing story and logic for a cliche.

in·san·i·ty/inˈsanitē/Noun1. The state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.2. Extreme foolishness or irrationality.

in·san·i·ty/inˈsanitē/Noun1. The state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.2. Extreme foolishness or irrationality.

ir·ra·tion·al/iˈraSHənl/Noun: An irrational number
.Adjective: Not logical or reasonable.

I notice a lack of logic in this story.

Modifié par this isnt my name, 07 juillet 2011 - 02:05 .

[Whatever42]

this isnt my name wrote...

I doubt thier sanity anyway. Why make a race of machine gods, only to nerf them so the inferior, ill equiped, ill organised, and less intelignet group wins ?

They are sacraficing story and logic for a cliche.

in·san·i·ty/inˈsanitē/Noun1. The state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.2. Extreme foolishness or irrationality.

ir·ra·tion·al/iˈraSHənl/Noun: An irrational number.Adjective: Not logical or reasonable.

I notice a lack of logic in this story.

There was no way Luke should have been able to destroy the Death Star. There was no way the Vorlons and Shadows shouldn't have crushed B5. There was no way Frodo should have been able to make it to Mount Doom with that ring. 

Let's face it. This simply isn't the genre for you. Most of your complaints are easily answered, although there are a few legit plotholes. However, you aren't satisified with the answers because you clearly want a completely different style of story. That's fine. But you won't find it here so perhaps you should look elsewhere?

[GiggleLooper]

this isnt my name wrote...

Go back to kissing ass biodrone. Anyone who dosent worship mass effect and bioware as the second coming of christ is a troll on this forum.

I've made complaints about some of their games and compliments as well. But you seem to have nothing positive to say what so ever, dispite having played at least 3 of their games. In terms of you wanting realism, I think Sci-fi/Fantasy is the wrong genre. Go look in the documentary section.

[this isnt my name]

GiggleLooper wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

Go back to kissing ass biodrone. Anyone who dosent worship mass effect and bioware as the second coming of christ is a troll on this forum.

I've made complaints about some of their games and compliments as well. But you seem to have nothing positive to say what so ever, dispite having played at least 3 of their games. In terms of you wanting realism, I think Sci-fi/Fantasy is the wrong genre. Go look in the documentary section.

Im not asking for realism, im asking for logic. Common sense. Something that shouldnt be absent in a game regaurdless of the setting.

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

I
doubt thier sanity anyway. Why make a race of machine gods, only to
nerf them so the inferior, ill equiped, ill organised, and less
intelignet group wins ?

They are sacraficing story and logic for a cliche.

in·san·i·ty/inˈsanitē/Noun1. The state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.2. Extreme foolishness or irrationality.

ir·ra·tion·al/iˈraSHənl/Noun: An irrational number.Adjective: Not logical or reasonable.

I notice a lack of logic in this story.

There
was no way Luke should have been able to destroy the Death Star. There
was no way the Vorlons and Shadows shouldn't have crushed B5. There was
no way Frodo should have been able to make it to Mount Doom with that
ring. 

Let's face it. This simply isn't the genre for you. Most
of your complaints are easily answered, although there are a few legit
plotholes. However, you aren't satisified with the answers because you
clearly want a completely different style of story. That's fine. But you
won't find it here so perhaps you should look elsewhere?

Its not the genre, sci fi can work out well, people can have common sense. The writing can be logical, I think its just mass effect. I hate the fact they built something too well and now they need to sacrafice the story/characters in order to kill it. Its a shame, ME1 was a good game, aside from some stupid things by soverign, now it just keeps getting worse as the games go on. Im jsut hanging around here till people leak the game and post spoilers everywhere, I played 2 of the 3 games may as well see just how bad it gets.

[Medhia Nox]

Unlike most - I do see your point "this isnt my name" - though I still feel I need to be clear that I wouldn't likely strive for the "all dead" scenario myself.

The Lord of the Rings - while seemingly implausible in many ways - had a far better craftsman behind the helm (and it's not an insult to Bioware to say that Tolkien writes a better story - I'd hope they would all agree too).

When we're presented with the enemy - Sauron - he is severely weakened. He is not the Sauron from thousands of years prior that walked in flesh and blood upon the planet. Ultimately - it's just the "idea" of Sauron that remains - guiding the orcs, and ultimately perverting Sarumon to "His" will.

And - we still have a tale that covers all of Middle Earth in darkness. The books only touch upon the Fellowship and the wars they're a part of - but all corners of Middle Earth are fighting for their lives against a foe that is at such a diminished level of power.

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The Reapers have been pawned off as having no such handicaps.

Though I have been touting that ME 1 does exactly this (diminished their power by destroying their static mode of conquest - and, being machines - they've got no other plan and no ability to use imagination) - still, the game does nothing to state this (or something else), and more than a few forum goers scoff at the concept of diminished Reapers.

A force of fully powerful Reapers ought not to be capable of being destroyed... not even with "space opera hope".

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The Death Star didn't bring the destruction of the Empire... nor did any single battle OTHER than the fight with Luke, Vader, and the Emperor... and STILL it took a long time (in the books) for the Empire to truly crumble.

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Bioware has constructed a story that a fully powerful force will be completely defeated in a short time.

"Full Power" + "Completely Defeated" + "Really Short Time Frame" = The problem some people have with the tale EVEN if it is a space opera.

[Victia]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Do not want, I've invested hundreds of hours of time into ME. If it turns out it was a losing battle I may just have to walk away from bioware for wasting my time.

^^ this, unfortunetley - Whilst I really want one of the endings to be an epic fail - I dont want a forced fail. Having spend hundreds of hours (across multple playthroughs) keeping Shep and his/her team alive I would be devistated to find out that it was a no win situation.

Having said that I do love the idea of a fail and a vigil-style Shep for a future civilisation - It would be perfect for my male renegade. But for my female paragon - I want her to have a fairly happy ending, thats one reason I am happy that ME3 will have multiple endings!