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More or less the same, I would imagine. The PS3 is capable of doing much more than the 360, but the 360 has always been their core system on the ME series, along with the fact that it's easier to develop with.

That said, it seems the 360 is capable of handling real time lighting better, and the PS3 can handle better textures. It's the hardware differences along with how it's all built. And PCs can handle everything fairly well. So there will likely be some slight differences, but nothing intentional.

Blind PS3 fanboy alert.

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Foxhound2020 wrote...

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I played ME2 on all three system, The PC suffered some higher blurry texture than xbox and the ps3 seemed more or less the same. Considering all the multiplatform I played and looked at, you can always see which console it was made for. Every game made for xbox is always a little bit higher res than ps3 or pc (just look at CoD: Black Ops) even if sometime it's not that important (less than 1/1000) but if you are looking for difference you can see it. It's not about the power the console can produce, it's about the coding translation which make it easier to go from xbox to pc and ps3 than ps3 to xbox and pc. They don't use the same programming. (too complex and overly boring to explain it.) Just wait until the release and you'll see.


huh?


?????

Did you just say a game looks better on console?

Gabe Newell is PISSED


ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/52585/Mass-Effect-2-PC-Xbox-360-Graphics-Compared
i see higher blurry textures indeed

wow, in some of those scenes, the 360 version actually looks better than PC :blink:

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PS3 has more power than the 360.

No

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Both the Xbox and PS3 hit the same bottleneck with RAM. One will not look better than the other due to any sort of superiority in hardware. (they both have ups and downs, but same engines pretty much kills any chance of one looking vastly superior).

That said, I would like to think that maybe Bioware will let Xbox owners use only one disc and possibly download the second disc ala Forza 3. Probably getting my hopes up though.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Ace of Dawn wrote...

More or less the same, I would imagine. The PS3 is capable of doing much more than the 360, but the 360 has always been their core system on the ME series, along with the fact that it's easier to develop with.

That said, it seems the 360 is capable of handling real time lighting better, and the PS3 can handle better textures. It's the hardware differences along with how it's all built. And PCs can handle everything fairly well. So there will likely be some slight differences, but nothing intentional.

Blind PS3 fanboy alert.


 your all fanboys. "Omg guys, look at this little spec in the corner.."

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wow, in some of those scenes, the 360 version actually looks better than PC [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]


looks the same to me :blink:

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In terms of how it looks, Xbox 360 and PS3 should look about the same with a slight edge going to the 360 because of its better anti-aliasing but really not that big of a difference. The pc though depending if they use DX11 then it will more than likely look more detailed. But anyway im getting it for 360 since ive played the first 2 on it.

Modifié par Spanky Magoo, 07 juillet 2011 - 08:58 .


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Seeing as your asking which one is better, im guessing you have a choice between the two? If so, go for Xbox, definitely, because it would work better and because of Mass Effect 1 saves.


I am inclined to agree with the part in bold. But if you don't mind my asking, how would it work better?


The game was built for Xbox, refined for the xbox's little jinks and jingles. The game would work best on the platform it was built for. The PS3 version would be a port, so, as well as having ME1 saves, ME3 on Xbox is the pure logical choice. Only go for PS3 when you don't have on Xbox, and even then, you should get the PC version over PS3 version because of ME1 saves...


Don't take this the wrong way, i am a massive Playstation fan and the PS3 is my prefered console, but im not blind and i can see which version is the best. Thats why i own the series on Xbox.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...
PS3 has more power than the 360.

No


Yes. Better looking exclusives and this: http://uk.gear.ign.c.../1116182p1.html and http://www.gaminguni...-360--4657.html

You really had to start a console war?
(PC owns the all anyway)

Modifié par Epic Legion, 07 juillet 2011 - 09:29 .


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MysticMage44 wrote...

I imagine there are some choices from ME1 that will not carry over into the PS3 version as the ME1 comic for the PS3 version of ME2 was not comprehensive.


Yeah, that's the only dissapointment I had with the PS3 version after playing the Xbox version. I wish there was a way I could "create" an import file of ME1 on the PS3 with all the plot flags from ME1 (similar to Gibbed). Some of the cameo's and messages were really good and grounding. More of a shame when you know the coding is there, you just can't access it.

Still, aside from ME1 development of choices (which I'd imagine to plot minimal, just really nice for depth of universe) I'd imagine all three will be near identical. The PC has always been capable of a bit more, so I'd expect load times and textures to be somewhat better on there (depending on hardware of course), but the conolse versions will be indistinguishable from each other.

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Virginian wrote...

Kinect addition is the only difference and that could have been included on all of the via headset just as easily. Kinect feature is there solely to sell more Kinects when just about everyone already has headsets to use.


This dumb argument again? Once more for clarifty, the kinect unit processes all the voice commands. If it were done through headsets then Bioware would have to code all the voice commands themselves taking months in the process. Yes other games can do voice commands via headset but it requires then to custom build the system themselves. Right now all Bioware need to do is program the voice commands via the Kinect SDK and all the hardwork is done for them.

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a lot of people in this thread seem a bit clueless.

firstly, Mass effect 2 was graphically superior on the 360 compared to the ps3, in terms of graphics, ME2 was PC>360>ps3 . thats fact.

just check out these comparison screens of the retail game from each version in this link.

http://www.eurogamer...ffect2-face-off

the 360 version has more detailed textures on a lot of the characters in the game. just look at their comparison gallery, shepards face and garrus look a lot more detailed in the 360 version.

the only other differences is the change in lightning which looks better in some areas but worse in others, and Digital foundry having played through both versions found the ps3s lightning scheme "inconsistent" and judging by their screenshots the 360 versions lightning definitely looks superior and fits the game better, id bet that is the case in most parts of the game.
and added to this, the 360 version has higher fps overall and better looking effects from special attacks.

and all of this  is despite the fact that the ps3 version got an extra year to work with and used the ME3 engine, and it still looks inferior to the 360 version. so that makes it pretty much 100% certain that the 360 version of Mass effect 3 will look better than the ps3 version, especially since the 360 is the lead platform. But obviously the PC version will still be the best.

B)

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and also about the ps3 and 360s power, they are actually about equal with each having some advantages over the other, however it actually seems like the 360 has more advantages overall since the ps3 has so many bottlenecks.
here is what Carmack has to say about the hardware of each console. he is actually saying that the only real advantage the ps3 has over the 360 is storage space with blue-ray.

http://www.nowgamer....hing-except-360

http://www.1up.com/n...ishes-dirt-sony

http://www.destructo...ps3-98107.phtml

basically the ps3 has high theoretical performance but because of its many bottlenecks, its practical performance is much lower and lower even than the 360s. If you had unlimited time you could make a code efficient enough to make use of more of its theoretical performance but that will never be viable with development dead lines and limited resources. and with that time you could do similar things with the 360 and achieve the same results in shorter time.

and now also these news favor the 360:

http://beefjack.com/...ity-bar-raised/

and btw if you dont know why you should take carmacks word, then all i have to say is look at
RAGE, the game he and his studio is making. its the best looking console game ever and also the most technically impressive. destroys everything else on the market and everything thats on its way.

Rage runs at 60 fps and has large almost open world environments with mega textures. while battelfield 3(on the consoles) and uncharted 3 runs at 30fps (while having small environments in comparison)

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Slidell505 wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

It should be, don't they have about equal power? I heard the PS3 has the potential for a little more, but, I'm not sure fan boys are very passionate.


PS3 has more power than the 360.

The PS3 also has less usable ram(the os takes up more room) and a weaker gpu.  It boils down to how you use the hardware and in this case
the code is not going to be optimised for the ps3.

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Epic Legion wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...
PS3 has more power than the 360.

No


Yes. Better looking exclusives and this: http://uk.gear.ign.c.../1116182p1.html and http://www.gaminguni...-360--4657.html

You really had to start a console war?
(PC owns the all anyway)

Thats all opinion. I think Xbox has better exclusives.

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If they are really developing for both consoles, then the differences should be minimal...
But, if that's a lie, well... Probably the 360 version will be better because of the rule of "360 first, then a ****ty Port for ps3"

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 07 juillet 2011 - 09:12 .


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KLUME777 wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

Seeing as your asking which one is better, im guessing you have a choice between the two? If so, go for Xbox, definitely, because it would work better and because of Mass Effect 1 saves.


I am inclined to agree with the part in bold. But if you don't mind my asking, how would it work better?


The game was built for Xbox, refined for the xbox's little jinks and jingles. The game would work best on the platform it was built for. The PS3 version would be a port, so, as well as having ME1 saves, ME3 on Xbox is the pure logical choice. Only go for PS3 when you don't have on Xbox, and even then, you should get the PC version over PS3 version because of ME1 saves...


Don't take this the wrong way, i am a massive Playstation fan and the PS3 is my prefered console, but im not blind and i can see which version is the best. Thats why i own the series on Xbox.


If I came across as a fanboy I didn't mean to. I was just asking. But Mass Effect 3 on PS3 wouldn't be a port. If it was to be a port, Mass Effect 3 would have come out on 360 first, and then brought to PS3. Mass Effect 2 WAS a port. Since it is coming for 360, PC, and PS3 simultaneously, it's not a port.

I have no problem with somebody choosing my system over their own, I recently had an xbox until yesterday. Couldn't afford it anymore.

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Epic Legion wrote...
You really had to start a console war?
(PC owns the all anyway)


The only problem I have with the PC is that it costs WAY too much to get one that actually plays games without crashing.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Epic Legion wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...
PS3 has more power than the 360.

No


Yes. Better looking exclusives and this: http://uk.gear.ign.c.../1116182p1.html and http://www.gaminguni...-360--4657.html

You really had to start a console war?
(PC owns the all anyway)

Thats all opinion. I think Xbox has better exclusives.

I had both consoles... And if we are talking about power, the Ps3 has more than the 360. But sadly, only the exclusives makes use of the true potential of the Ps3.
But remember, I'm talking about GRAPHICS, I'm not saying which exclusive is better...

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 07 juillet 2011 - 09:12 .


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Who cares, PC rules!
http://mygaming.co.z...m_849012821.jpg

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All versions will be just about equal though i assume the xbox and pc versions will have slight more content because of choices that could be made in mass effect 1 but not in the comic

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Mesina2 wrote...

Who cares, PC rules!
http://mygaming.co.z...m_849012821.jpg


I lol'd

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Mesina2 wrote...

Who cares, PC rules!
http://mygaming.co.z...m_849012821.jpg

But... I play on consoles and Pc... that means... that... That I'm an hybrid mutant!! :sick:

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Epic Legion wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...
PS3 has more power than the 360.

No


Yes. Better looking exclusives and this: http://uk.gear.ign.c.../1116182p1.html and http://www.gaminguni...-360--4657.html

You really had to start a console war?
(PC owns the all anyway)

Thats all opinion. I think Xbox has better exclusives.


This board isn't here for you to talk about why you think the Xbox is better than the PS3. That goes to other ppl as well. I hope a mod is keep a close eye on this board.


Here are the pros for each system. I won't go into huge details but here are the basic differences:

Xbox 360
1. Import Mass Effect 1 save.
2. Kinect support.

PS3
1. Game won't be on multiple discs
2. Move support possible?

PC
1. Better visuals
2. Mods

If I had a more powerful PC, i'd get the PC version for all 3 games. But i'll stick to the 360 version. Actually if the PS3 had a port of Mass Effect 1 than i'd choose PS3.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 07 juillet 2011 - 09:20 .


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TexasToast712 wrote...

Ace of Dawn wrote...

More or less the same, I would imagine. The PS3 is capable of doing much more than the 360, but the 360 has always been their core system on the ME series, along with the fact that it's easier to develop with.

That said, it seems the 360 is capable of handling real time lighting better, and the PS3 can handle better textures. It's the hardware differences along with how it's all built. And PCs can handle everything fairly well. So there will likely be some slight differences, but nothing intentional.

Blind PS3 fanboy alert.


I'm hurt. Mainly because I don't own a PS3 and don't want to shell out money for one. Pushed to a full potential, it has more raw processing power than a 360. Granted, pure graphics cards alone, the 360's is superior, but the PS3 can fall back on its cell processors. Sure, there are give and takes, but from a technical side, PS3 is a hefty horse.

That said, I won't buy one because it has, what? 5 games I'd like to get?

EDIT: Also love that you accuse me of being a blind fanboy of the PS3, while I concede points for the 360.

One more thing, I doubt Playstation Move support will be added because it would mean Bioware would actually have to spend time developing the code for it. Kinect already had the voice recognition software built into it, meaning Bioware only has to bit of coding to make it work with the game, rather then spending resources on a feature not everyone will use to begin with. Kinect support was just something they realized they could put into the game with minimal effort, and figured there was no harm in doing so. I'm inclined to agree.

Modifié par Ace of Dawn, 07 juillet 2011 - 09:33 .


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 All versions of Mass Effect 3 are equal but some are more equal than others.