Ce sujet est ferméMajorStranger wrote...
Nope, Mass Effect's development console is Xbox 360. PC and PS3 are port. I expect it to look a little bit better on 360 than PC and ps3.
Bwahahahahahahahaahaha.
But seriously.
Will the PS3 and 360 versions be "equal?"
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#76
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 12:55
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Bwahahahahahahahaahaha.
But seriously.
Retour en haut
#77
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 01:05
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I prefer the PC for any sort of shooter simply because of the mouse. I really struggle when playing Halo with friends.
#78
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 01:12
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PS3 fanboys are delusional. Yes, the PS3 has more raw "power", however, because nearly every game is developed on the 360 first, the PS3 has inferior versions of 90% of games on the market (excluding PS3 exclusive and games developed on the PS3 first). This number is not an exaggeration, check lensoftruth and digitalfoundry if you are skeptical.
At the end of the day though, this is irrelevant. PS3 is the worst system for the game because you cannot play ME1 on it, AND minor decisions do not carry over for II & III. You're playing an abridged game on your beloved PSLess.
At the end of the day though, this is irrelevant. PS3 is the worst system for the game because you cannot play ME1 on it, AND minor decisions do not carry over for II & III. You're playing an abridged game on your beloved PSLess.
#79
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 01:26
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Lol this. Definetly thisOmair wrote...
PS3 fanboys are delusional. Yes, the PS3 has more raw "power", however, because nearly every game is developed on the 360 first, the PS3 has inferior versions of 90% of games on the market (excluding PS3 exclusive and games developed on the PS3 first). This number is not an exaggeration, check lensoftruth and digitalfoundry if you are skeptical.
At the end of the day though, this is irrelevant. PS3 is the worst system for the game because you cannot play ME1 on it, AND minor decisions do not carry over for II & III. You're playing an abridged game on your beloved PSLess.
#80
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 01:29
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Omair wrote...
PS3 fanboys are delusional. Yes, the PS3 has more raw "power", however, because nearly every game is developed on the 360 first, the PS3 has inferior versions of 90% of games on the market (excluding PS3 exclusive and games developed on the PS3 first). This number is not an exaggeration, check lensoftruth and digitalfoundry if you are skeptical.
At the end of the day though, this is irrelevant. PS3 is the worst system for the game because you cannot play ME1 on it, AND minor decisions do not carry over for II & III. You're playing an abridged game on your beloved PSLess.
Is this against me? I more or less said as much. Also, that I don't really care for the PS3 to begin with...
#81
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 01:38
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Nope not against you. But I dealt with 600+ pages of this on multiple other forums. What's funny is that the people that say all three versions are equal are even more annoying than the PS3 fanboys. I know they mean well, and want to diffuse the tension, but please -- they ain't equal, that's why some people are in denial, and others are calling them out on it.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 01:40
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Console wars = Penis measuring contests?
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 02:07
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Don't compare the two. It's demeaning to penis measuring contests.AngelicMachinery wrote...
Console wars = Penis measuring contests?
#85
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 02:40
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Wrong! Minor decisions and dialogue responses WILL carry over from ME1 to ME 2 to ME3, some already do. There are 500 of them in ME1 plus another 500 in ME2, will ALL of them have some effect on the outcome of ME3, maybe/maybe not, but all of them are ONLY available on the Xbox and PC versions and NOT just the 6 from Genesis (and who knows what for ME3).Omair wrote...
PPS3 fanboys are delusional. Yes, the PS3 has more raw "power", however, because nearly every game is developed on the 360 first, the PS3 has inferior versions of 90% of games on the market (excluding PS3 exclusive and games developed on the PS3 first). This number is not an exaggeration, check lensoftruth and digitalfoundry if you are skeptical.
At the end of the day though, this is irrelevant. PS3 is the worst system for the game because you cannot play ME1 on it, AND minor decisions do not carry over for II & III. You're playing an abridged game on your beloved PSLess.
At the end of the day though, this is irrelevant. PS3 is the worst system for the game because you cannot play ME1 on it, AND minor decisions do not carry over for II & III. You're playing an abridged game on your beloved PSLess.
Edited to remove ... snip...
Minor decisions DO make a difference, maybe just in news reports, but they are there. Casey Hudson did state that decisions and how you treat people in ME1 and ME2 will show up in ME3, and some of your decisions on how you handle some loyalty missions will have major effects in ME3.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 03:09
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I think you need to reread what I wrote. I said exactly what you are saying. I simply meant that those decisions made in part 1 dont carry over to 2 and 3 IF you have a PS3, because they dont have a part 1 to begin with. Premature snipping is never a good idea...
#87
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 05:28
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Omair wrote...
PS3 fanboys are delusional. Yes, the PS3 has more raw "power", however, because nearly every game is developed on the 360 first, the PS3 has inferior versions of 90% of games on the market (excluding PS3 exclusive and games developed on the PS3 first). This number is not an exaggeration, check lensoftruth and digitalfoundry if you are skeptical.
At the end of the day though, this is irrelevant. PS3 is the worst system for the game because you cannot play ME1 on it, AND minor decisions do not carry over for II & III. You're playing an abridged game on your beloved PSLess.
I'd like to look at those numbers. Please link.
#88
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 06:06
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What a strange argument.
The way I solve this problem is to own at least one of each platform.
2 - XBox 360s
2 - PC laptops
1 - PS3
Then when we buy games, we buy them for the platform in which they're optimized for (or exclusive to).
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
The way I solve this problem is to own at least one of each platform.
2 - XBox 360s
2 - PC laptops
1 - PS3
Then when we buy games, we buy them for the platform in which they're optimized for (or exclusive to).
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
#89
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 06:09
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happy_daiz wrote...
What a strange argument.
The way I solve this problem is to own at least one of each platform.
2 - XBox 360s
2 - PC laptops
1 - PS3
Then when we buy games, we buy them for the platform in which they're optimized for (or exclusive to).
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
Same here! Why cry about it when you can have it all... though, I really need to upgrade my graphics card for ME3.
#90
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 06:17
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I don't know, when people start feeling the need to frantically argue that their game console is better than someone elses I think they need something more fufillling in their life.
#91
Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 06:36
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Mdoggy1214,
Here are samples from three different sources, so that there aren't claims of favoritism or bias (unless of course Sony fans have reached Fox Mulder status and claim the entire industry is against the big S):
http://www.gamespot....1251/index.html
http://www.lensoftru...ead-redemption/
http://www.lensoftru...are-2-analysis/
http://www.eurogamer...-evil-5-article
Feel free to look up the rest if you don't believe my 90%, if it ain't 90%, its 88.8%.
And I'd like to add one more point. Yes, the PC has the highest graphical potential for the game, but because the game was developed for the 360, the PC is not necessarily the best experience wise. Those who have actually done the research know the issues with Mass Effect 1:
(Known bugs)
■After you reach 550 MB of pagefile (see the Task Manager in Windows) the game may crash or lead to loop graphic sequences. You will need to reboot your system or manually clean the pagefile. This bug is caused by nVidia graphic cards and Realtek audio card. One solution is to run the game in window mode and disable music and speech.
■On Therum in the PC version, after Bring Down the Sky is installed, certain areas of the terrain become solid black, regardless of terrain type. Sometimes going to the configuration window (exiting the game, running the game launcher, and selecting configure, or running MassEffectConfig.exe) and selecting Repair > Delete Local Shader Cache Files, may sometimes fix the problem. Vista users will need to run the application in Windows XP SP2 compatibility.
■Quickly pressing the Enter key in confirmation prompts can sometimes leave a window stuck on the screen ("Convert this item into omnigel?"). The game no longer responds to keyboard or mouse input. However, it's still possible to autosave and auto-reload through the console or rebounded keys.)
Part 2 had issues with textures: http://social.biowar.../index/792856/1
Now certainly the 360 has glitches as well, the clipping being the most obvious, but my point is that just because a system has better specs, does not mean that the game will be better on it. I know many of you have invested hundreds of dollars in "your" system, and need to psychologically justify that expense, but the truth is the truth.
And to shut up the ME2 on PS3 is better than ME2 on 360 talk: http://www.eurogamer...ffect2-face-off
"However, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the original Xbox 360 version of Mass Effect 2 has a performance advantage overall, especially during the exploration and combat sections."
And
"The PS3 game doesn't feel especially clearer or more vibrant, but there's a definite sense that it's rather more inconsistent than it was before, to the point where the lighting in the occasional scene just doesn't seem logical."
I doubt this'll change anything though.
Here are samples from three different sources, so that there aren't claims of favoritism or bias (unless of course Sony fans have reached Fox Mulder status and claim the entire industry is against the big S):
http://www.gamespot....1251/index.html
http://www.lensoftru...ead-redemption/
http://www.lensoftru...are-2-analysis/
http://www.eurogamer...-evil-5-article
Feel free to look up the rest if you don't believe my 90%, if it ain't 90%, its 88.8%.
And I'd like to add one more point. Yes, the PC has the highest graphical potential for the game, but because the game was developed for the 360, the PC is not necessarily the best experience wise. Those who have actually done the research know the issues with Mass Effect 1:
(Known bugs)
■After you reach 550 MB of pagefile (see the Task Manager in Windows) the game may crash or lead to loop graphic sequences. You will need to reboot your system or manually clean the pagefile. This bug is caused by nVidia graphic cards and Realtek audio card. One solution is to run the game in window mode and disable music and speech.
■On Therum in the PC version, after Bring Down the Sky is installed, certain areas of the terrain become solid black, regardless of terrain type. Sometimes going to the configuration window (exiting the game, running the game launcher, and selecting configure, or running MassEffectConfig.exe) and selecting Repair > Delete Local Shader Cache Files, may sometimes fix the problem. Vista users will need to run the application in Windows XP SP2 compatibility.
■Quickly pressing the Enter key in confirmation prompts can sometimes leave a window stuck on the screen ("Convert this item into omnigel?"). The game no longer responds to keyboard or mouse input. However, it's still possible to autosave and auto-reload through the console or rebounded keys.)
Part 2 had issues with textures: http://social.biowar.../index/792856/1
Now certainly the 360 has glitches as well, the clipping being the most obvious, but my point is that just because a system has better specs, does not mean that the game will be better on it. I know many of you have invested hundreds of dollars in "your" system, and need to psychologically justify that expense, but the truth is the truth.
And to shut up the ME2 on PS3 is better than ME2 on 360 talk: http://www.eurogamer...ffect2-face-off
"However, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the original Xbox 360 version of Mass Effect 2 has a performance advantage overall, especially during the exploration and combat sections."
And
"The PS3 game doesn't feel especially clearer or more vibrant, but there's a definite sense that it's rather more inconsistent than it was before, to the point where the lighting in the occasional scene just doesn't seem logical."
I doubt this'll change anything though.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 06:55
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Never owned an Xbox, my brother did with ME1. Cant stand the xbox and its controller imo. Have my PS3 and when i saw ME2 was coming out for it (through here when looking at DA forums) decided to get it and chuffed i did because its now my favourite game with DAO and FF7,8 and 10.
I will be getting the CE of ME3 on PS3 as well. Yes i will miss out on ME1 which i would have liked to have played and wished they had just done a cheap port that they could have sold as me1 and 2 in one box, but i understand why they didnt.
I am getting in on PS3 because thats what im comfortable with, it should be the same reason for everyone and not having arguments over which one is better, each are better at different things.
I had no issues with the quality on my PS3 infact i thought it was one of the better games ive seen. People just love to complain it seems.
I will be getting the CE of ME3 on PS3 as well. Yes i will miss out on ME1 which i would have liked to have played and wished they had just done a cheap port that they could have sold as me1 and 2 in one box, but i understand why they didnt.
I am getting in on PS3 because thats what im comfortable with, it should be the same reason for everyone and not having arguments over which one is better, each are better at different things.
I had no issues with the quality on my PS3 infact i thought it was one of the better games ive seen. People just love to complain it seems.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 07:25
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Omair wrote... Those who have actually done the research know the issues with Mass Effect 1:
(Known bugs)
I own the game does that qualify me as "done the research" on the PC version ? Let's see the pagefile problem, never had it. I have logged in over 500hours on ME 1 and not once did my pagefile so much as fart in an impolite manner. The Therum missing texture problem is actually a STEAM issuse that is fixed very easily and never plagues the gamer again once it is fixed. I can also say I have never run into the "press enter too quickly issue".
Now having said that I noticed you didn't bother to list the many many issues the Xbox 360 version of ME 1 had. The PC version of ME 1 is far better than the Xbox version but instead of admit that you tried to paint the PC version as some sort of "bugged" mess.
Sounds to me as if you are trying to fill a psychological need to justify you spending hundreds of dollars on your console that can barely run the game at a modern resolution and decent framerate. The fact you try to pass the Xbox 360 version off as better than the PC version shows a fair bit of insecurity. Tell you what get back to me when your console is running Mass Effect 3 at 1920 x 1080p and a solid 60fps. Oh wait I forgot the minute people start talking about higher resolutions and twice the frame rate it becomes a case of "well that isn't important".Omair wrote... Now certainly the 360 has glitches as well, the clipping being the most obvious, but my point is that just because a system has better specs, does not mean that the game will be better on it. I know many of you have invested hundreds of dollars in "your" system, and need to psychologically justify that expense, but the truth is the truth.
The real "truth" behind it all is that the 360 and PS3 version will be pretty much the same. The PC version will be better if you have a moderately decent PC
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 07:34
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charmingcharlie wrote...
Omair wrote... Those who have actually done the research know the issues with Mass Effect 1:
(Known bugs)
I own the game does that qualify me as "done the research" on the PC version ? Let's see the pagefile problem, never had it. I have logged in over 500hours on ME 1 and not once did my pagefile so much as fart in an impolite manner. The Therum missing texture problem is actually a STEAM issuse that is fixed very easily and never plagues the gamer again once it is fixed. I can also say I have never run into the "press enter too quickly issue".
Now having said that I noticed you didn't bother to list the many many issues the Xbox 360 version of ME 1 had. The PC version of ME 1 is far better than the Xbox version but instead of admit that you tried to paint the PC version as some sort of "bugged" mess.
Sounds to me as if you are trying to fill a psychological need to justify you spending hundreds of dollars on your console that can barely run the game at a modern resolution and decent framerate. The fact you try to pass the Xbox 360 version off as better than the PC version shows a fair bit of insecurity. Tell you what get back to me when your console is running Mass Effect 3 at 1920 x 1080p and a solid 60fps. Oh wait I forgot the minute people start talking about higher resolutions and twice the frame rate it becomes a case of "well that isn't important".Omair wrote... Now certainly the 360 has glitches as well, the clipping being the most obvious, but my point is that just because a system has better specs, does not mean that the game will be better on it. I know many of you have invested hundreds of dollars in "your" system, and need to psychologically justify that expense, but the truth is the truth.
The real "truth" behind it all is that the 360 and PS3 version will be pretty much the same. The PC version will be better if you have a moderately decent PC
Super nintendo is better than everything, best games ever... proove me wrong.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 08:04
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AngelicMachinery wrote...
Super nintendo is better than everything, best games ever... proove me wrong.
That takes me back to the days of Tetris. Good god.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 09:05
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wow charmingcharlie,
you turned my rant about the ps3 into your rant about the 360. bravo.
you turned my rant about the ps3 into your rant about the 360. bravo.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 09:16
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Whatever the case is, I still prefer the PS3 version over the 360 version, feels better for me.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 09:23
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Omair wrote...
wow charmingcharlie,
you turned my rant about the ps3 into your rant about the 360. bravo.
If you were having a rant about the PS3 version why did you go to great lengths to belittle the PC version of Mass Effect 1 then ? The fact that you are attacking any platform that is not the 360 pretty much says to me you have a bias towards the xbox 360.
I don't have a problem with the 360 if people want to play their games on an Xbox 360 that is up to them, the same goes for those that want to play games on a PS3. I do however have a problem with people misrepresenting things like you did. The PC version of Mass Effect 1 was better than the Xbox version, the PC version of Mass Effect 2 was better than the console version, after all last time I checked 1080p @ 60fps > 720p @ 30fps.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 09:36
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I've own ME1 on the Xbox and played ME2 on the xbox yet own ME2 on the ps3. And I am buying the ME3 CE on ps3, why? Because of controller preferences. And there really is no difference between the two versions of ME2, the only differences I noticed were some glitches and a bit of framerate issues.
The PC version is superior over the two, why people continue to argue over the Xbox and PS3 makes no since. They are both more or less equal, graphic and gameplay wise.
The PC version is superior over the two, why people continue to argue over the Xbox and PS3 makes no since. They are both more or less equal, graphic and gameplay wise.
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Posté 08 juillet 2011 - 09:38
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RelentlessEcho wrote...
I've own ME1 on the Xbox and played ME2 on the xbox yet own ME2 on the ps3. And I am buying the ME3 CE on ps3, why? Because of controller preferences. And there really is no difference between the two versions of ME2, the only differences I noticed were some glitches and a bit of framerate issues.
The PC version is superior over the two, why people continue to argue over the Xbox and PS3 makes no since. They are both more or less equal, graphic and gameplay wise.
Can't you set up your PC to be able to use the PS3 controller?
