Ha Ha! Yeah as someone said we got a support thread for everybody but Harbi so here it is. Sure I know 99% of the population on board hates this guy (and I'm with you) So let's talk about what we like about the guy and what changes BW should try to make him more appealing as badguy.
I liked him a bit better in Arrival less smack he got to the point.
In 2 he said some disturbing things but he says them every second that you're with him. More silence for this guy is golden.
Sir Smack talk! aka Harbinger support changing him into a real badguy thread
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 05:27
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Well, I see Harbi as a nice warm and fuzzy Reaper. Sovereign was all like "you will cease to exist because we demand it" but Harbi really is dedicated to getting humanity to join the god like Reaper club. Even when Shepard blows up the collector base, Harbi still says he and the others will still ascend humanity and save them. Sure, that involves making everyone into a smoothie, but he refuses to give up on humans, much like a caring brother/sister would refuse to give up on a druggie sibling that refuses all forms of aid. So yeah, in my mind Harbi is like a caring big brother, which is why I am glad to say I am a supporter of Harbi.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 05:30
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I agree, I think he was sorASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.
Now that I have that out of the way, toning down his battle cries a bit would be excellent. His comments on the other characters and species at the end were chilling, and the occasional comments when your allies fell or you killed an enemy were awesome. He just needs to be more selective in his quotes and timing.
Now that I have that out of the way, toning down his battle cries a bit would be excellent. His comments on the other characters and species at the end were chilling, and the occasional comments when your allies fell or you killed an enemy were awesome. He just needs to be more selective in his quotes and timing.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 05:37
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That was me that said that.
Well I think Harbinger can become even more threatening then Sovereign, there were improvements in Arrival.
Well I think Harbinger can become even more threatening then Sovereign, there were improvements in Arrival.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 05:45
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Harbinger actually grew on me, tbh. IMO he's a lot funnier than half the stuff in the game that's actually supposed to be funny.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 06:44
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Harbinger is badass! He deserves to be shown in ME3.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 06:50
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"My comedic/repetitive dialogue is beyond your comprehension. ASSUMING - Ah, **** this!" 
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 07:10
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Is it necessary to give him a nickname? Especially one as silly as "harbi"? He is kind of the leader of sentient beings. And they kinda our the biggest threat to the galaxy right now.
Show a little respect.
Show a little respect.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 07:13
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King Zeel wrote...
Is it necessary to give him a nickname? Especially one as silly as "harbi"? He is kind of the leader of sentient beings. And they kinda our the biggest threat to the galaxy right now.
Show a little respect.
How about Mister H? You have to speak it with a thick Easter Seaboard accent while wearing clown make up though.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 07:13
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AngelicMachinery wrote...
King Zeel wrote...
Is it necessary to give him a nickname? Especially one as silly as "harbi"? He is kind of the leader of sentient beings. And they kinda our the biggest threat to the galaxy right now.
Show a little respect.
How about Mister H? You have to speak it with a thick Easter Seaboard accent while wearing clown make up though.
how about Harbinger. his name.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 07:16
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King Zeel wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
King Zeel wrote...
Is it necessary to give him a nickname? Especially one as silly as "harbi"? He is kind of the leader of sentient beings. And they kinda our the biggest threat to the galaxy right now.
Show a little respect.
How about Mister H? You have to speak it with a thick Easter Seaboard accent while wearing clown make up though.
how about Harbinger. his name.
I don't think that's his true name though, Soverign had some sort of alien name so I assume Harbinger would as well. It's probably just a nick name some of his buddies gave him when they were pounding down prothean smoothies.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 07:28
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BatmanPWNS wrote...
Harbinger is badass! He deserves to be shown in ME3.
I have a feeling you'll be eating those words after you're halfway through ME3. But it's true. Harbinger is cool. Hope he becomes a real nemesis in ME3 (as long as he stays away from my Liara) instead of the boogyman with all his bravado talk they made him out to be in ME2.
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 07:44
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Aw man, I knew it was gonna come sonner or later. Ah, what the hell!
This!
ArcticMan94 wrote...
Harbinger for LI!
This!
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 09:31
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ArcticMan94 wrote...
Harbinger for LI!
Gives a whole new meaning to "Assuming Control" and other sentences with that connotation.
Playing in the background (or the chance he serenades someone or "'Reaping' what he sows" with that person)
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 09:35
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Mesina2 wrote...
roflchoppaz wrote...
Aw man, I knew it was gonna come sonner or later. Ah, what the hell!ArcticMan94 wrote...
Harbinger for LI!
This!
It happen.
Holy ****! I can't even listen to the whole thing!! "Critical Mission Failure" music! WTF FTW!! I may never play ME2 again!
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Posté 06 juillet 2011 - 11:49
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Harbinger needs to be a force of nature. Remember when we saw sovereign for the first time? remember that feeling of dread as we asked ourselves, "wtf is THAT?" Remember when we saw 1 Reaper and how we instinctively knew this was the end times?
harbinger didnt have that. He was always assuming things.
Reapers should be like that andraste dragon in dragon age:origins in terms of presence. when u blew that horn, how it echoed in on the walls, the silence then the roar followed by the beating of wings, you KNOW sh** just hit the fan.
harbinger didnt have that. He was always assuming things.
Reapers should be like that andraste dragon in dragon age:origins in terms of presence. when u blew that horn, how it echoed in on the walls, the silence then the roar followed by the beating of wings, you KNOW sh** just hit the fan.
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Posté 07 juillet 2011 - 01:52
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Have him die early on so we don't have to deal with his lame trash-talk.
IMO, if they try to turn it around and make him like Sovereign now, it'll look contrived. Break it, buy it.
IMO, if they try to turn it around and make him like Sovereign now, it'll look contrived. Break it, buy it.
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Posté 07 juillet 2011 - 02:11
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^ What is with the malignant attitude towards contrivance? In case no one's noticed, nothing is not contrived story-telling wise. Folks throw that word around way too much. It's lost it's meaning. It's a "buzz-word" and we just can't stand those.
They could have written him better, but the other enemy. types were just as corny if you think about it. Hell, your squadmates were quite corny as well. Sovereign was great with dialogue, but did we fight him? We did not. Harbinger was corny in ME2 (better in LotSB); however, if you have to fight the guy for an hour, no need to listen to a two-hour thesis before hand.
A philosophical adventure is fine, but I don't want an adventure regarding philosophy.
They could have written him better, but the other enemy. types were just as corny if you think about it. Hell, your squadmates were quite corny as well. Sovereign was great with dialogue, but did we fight him? We did not. Harbinger was corny in ME2 (better in LotSB); however, if you have to fight the guy for an hour, no need to listen to a two-hour thesis before hand.
A philosophical adventure is fine, but I don't want an adventure regarding philosophy.
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Posté 07 juillet 2011 - 02:24
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I preferred the Reapers when they were beautiful but silent. Now it's like there's this thing I don't wanna talk to. Like villain cancer. >.>
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Posté 07 juillet 2011 - 03:16
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Repearized Miranda wrote...
^ What is with the malignant attitude towards contrivance? In case no one's noticed, nothing is not contrived story-telling wise. Folks throw that word around way too much. It's lost it's meaning. It's a "buzz-word" and we just can't stand those.
They could have written him better, but the other enemy. types were just as corny if you think about it. Hell, your squadmates were quite corny as well. Sovereign was great with dialogue, but did we fight him? We did not. Harbinger was corny in ME2 (better in LotSB); however, if you have to fight the guy for an hour, no need to listen to a two-hour thesis before hand.
A philosophical adventure is fine, but I don't want an adventure regarding philosophy.
Not a hard concept to grasp.
In ME2, he is annoying and unintimidating.
In ME3, his character randomly does a 180 to something like Sovereign because fans complain he's annoying.
Such a change = contrivance.
