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[1upD]

darth_lopez wrote...

Tessarae wrote...

Why would you want to tell a story that has already been told?
Making a movie about the events of the game is like rewriting the Lord of the Rings, just in modern language and cutting the size in half.

agreed, there's plenty of stuff to make a movie about in masseffect. Say the Actual Fall of the protheans? Mass Effect: Fall of the Protheans. Surely they must've had military victories aside from the survival of Ilos(i realize this isn't a military victory just a small incredibly lucky moment) 

Although it would be interesting, I'm not sure how many people would be able to watch a movie in which all of the characters have tentacles coming out of their faces...

[Nerevar-as]

Usually people need main human characters to identify themselves with (or at least studios think so), so I don´t expect anything preFCW. The problem is that between FCW and games there isn´t much significant happening. Not even the Skyllian Blit, unless the scope is much bigger than the codex suggests.

[Recon911PDW]

You know, I use to hope that the movie would have Shepard in it but now that I think more about it I don't really care anymore. All I hope is that this will be the first video game movie to actually be a success.

[gamer_girl]

Tessarae wrote...

Why would you want to tell a story that has already been told?
Making a movie about the events of the game is like rewriting the Lord of the Rings, just in modern language and cutting the size in half.

Except you're forgetting that all movies based off of novels are retelling a story that's been made already and cut the size in half. Basing a movie on a video game is no different. Just because it's been told already doesn't mean it isn't worth telling in another form. Especially in this case because after they see the film they get to experience it in a different way with gameplay and interactive cinematics. That AND they get to make tough decisions for themselves and really make the experience their own. Because when you watch a movie it's purely from an objective standpoint and not a proactive one, playing the game would further imerse new fans deeeper into the ME universe with way more story (as with a 2 hour film you can't expect the entire shbang), great gameplay mechanics, customizable characters, in depth characters, and just an overall better experience. In that way using Shepard seems like the best idea so far (aside from my aforementioned disapproval of spoilers). It actually seems like a better idea for new fans. I'm sure the new fans will appreciate both a substantial amount while fans of the series still leave pleased. To compare, I'm a big Harry Potter fan - read all the books and loved them. I also love the movies, but of course they aren't as great of an experience as the books because they have less depth. With ME, not only do you have more depth of plot in the games, you have more interactability. You can't really go wrong, except again with spoilers. This is why people are seeing the whole "this is something I've seen before" perspective as a selfish one. They already have a solid story, why pay MORE to get really innovative people to think of another story when there's an amazing one ready for the big screen? That would only delay production and make fan expectations WAY too high and arguably make them more opinionated on what the film "should" contain. Sorry about the rant, I'm just getting kind of sick of people. BioWare is going through the trouble of making a film and will be struggling enough as it is to keep fan opinions in mind. Not everyone can get what they want and if it is about Shepard, the people whining about "canons" can just suck it up and deal with it. For BioWare's sake at least. We wouldn't be on this forum if we didn't <3 BioWare to pieces.

[Terror_K]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

The picture is of the bit in Mass Effect 1 where Sovereign explains the whole purpose of the Reapers.

Except that he doesn't. He goes on about us not being able to understand, about fumbling in ignorance and it being beyond our comprehension, etc. The Reapers have still yet to outright state what they are doing and why. Sure, there's plenty of evidence that points to several concepts, but nothing concrete yet.

gamer_girl wrote...

Except you're forgetting that all movies based off of novels are retelling a story that's been made already and cut the size in half. Basing a movie on a video game is no different.

Except books aren't retelling a dynamic story that can alter its form and change. And books generally don't have those behind them saying, "there is no canon: the canon is what you make it" unlike Mass Effect. Taking away the interactivity and rehashing the same story is a massive step backwards and a complete waste of time given that the Mass Effect games are already supposed to be interactive movies in a sense. And anybody who believes that we really need to have the movie based on the games to work and get an audience clearly isn't much of a Mass Effect fan because they clearly don't have a lot of faith in the setting and IP. I have no problem in principle with trying to grow an audience, but I always believe that any entertainment product should always be made for the existing fanbase first and foremost. They are the fans after all, and are so for a reason. Otherwise we end up with Dragon Age 2.

Modifié par Terror_K, 10 juillet 2011 - 08:56 .

[Relief]

Stop ****ing people. Mass Effect is a great universe with lots of stories to tell. There will be movies, anime and maybe more games about this universe. Each media with its own or same story, with the goal to attract a greater public. If they can attract a bigger public by this movies, there will be more money and more money means bigger productions.

The first movie will be a testmovie to see what the public thinks. If its a success we will see more movies and games. And i really dont mind to be honest. Mass Effect is a great universe with a lot to learn and enjoy.

Lets stop fighting and wait until there is more news.

[stewie1974]

If you want a movie made for the fans... make your own.
If you want a successful movie franchise that is going to have sequels, get over your sense of self importance. There are not enough mass effect video gamers to bring the cinema numbers the movie needs.

I'm a firefly fan and during the relase of "Serenity" was part of a campaign to get the movie high box office sales...it failed, because while there are a LOT of browncoats... there were not enough to guarantee a sequel....Mass Effect needs to have "Mass Appeal" and that means looking "beyond the fanbase"

Movie will probablly be terrible by fan standards... just like spiderman was to spidey fans.... however ... it was a  successful box office smash.

I suspect the movie will be loosly based on the events of the first game... so loosly based that it becomes it's -own- cannon..

I mean for instance ... the Normandy will probablly "Already" be a council warship and shepard will "start" the movie as a "Spectre" ..Ash will already be on board as will kaiden and some other "council" races... Meet Tali the council engineer and Garrus the Ship Security....  they'll recieve a transmission eden prime is under attack by a rouge spectre sarren and matriarch whatever..... so go pick up this matriarch chicks daughter..... 

Loosley based in order to fill a 2 hour or 3 hour time slot... so really don't worry about your "sheps" cannon... as the movie will not -really- resememble ANYONES game. Other than in plot lines.

Yeah.. I can see the success of a movie marketed towards a bunch of people who have read every single codex entry being -really- popular and worth a studio's time and financial investment....

c'mon... enter reality for a moment.

Modifié par stewie1974, 10 juillet 2011 - 07:55 .

[CuseGirl]

Yeah.. I can see the success of a movie marketed towards a bunch of people who have read every single codex entry being -really- popular and worth a studio's time and financial investment....

c'mon... enter reality for a moment.

like a true realist and I'm inclined to agree. The movie won't sell unless they get Angelina Jolie to play Ashley and then trump her in ME-2 with Yvonne Strahovsky....

[Mister Mida]

Terror_K wrote...

And anybody who believes that we really need to have the movie based on the games to work and get an audience clearly isn't much of a Mass Effect fan because they clearly don't have a lot of faith in the setting and IP.

In general, I don't really care what this ME film is gonna be about, given history of game adaptations. But I personally think that stuff like the First Contact War, Rachni Wars and Krogan Rebellions are less interesting for a film for one reason: it's background storytelling. Stories to deepen the universe. Stuff like that to me is like The Silmarillion in Tolkien's universe. And I don't think making a film out of that is gonna be as interesting as it sounds.

And believing that making a film out of the games is better than about some other war has nothing to do with being a better or worse fan of the IP.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 10 juillet 2011 - 09:19 .

[gamer_girl]

Terror_K wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Except you're forgetting that all movies based off of novels are retelling a story that's been made already and cut the size in half. Basing a movie on a video game is no different.

Except books aren't retelling a dynamic story that can alter its form and change. And books generally don't have those behind them saying, "there is no canon: the canon is what you make it" unlike Mass Effect. Taking away the interactivity and rehashing the same story is a massive step backwards and a complete waste of time given that the Mass Effect games are already supposed to be interactive movies in a sense. And anybody who believes that we really need to have the movie based on the games to work and get an audience clearly isn't much of a Mass Effect fan because they clearly don't have a lot of faith in the setting and IP. I have no problem in principle with trying to grow an audience, but I always believe that any entertainment product should always be made for the existing fanbase first and foremost. They are the fans after all, and are so for a reason. Otherwise we end up with Dragon Age 2.

I think it's rather laughable that you think doing a Shepard movie would be a "waste of time" and a "step backwards". Here you are ridiculing people for thinking it might work saying we "clearly [aren't] Mass Effect fans", when any true fan would be on board with whatever BioWare had to offer. I never said it had to be about Shepard to be successful and nor did anyone else. We just believe it's the best idea for attracting more people to the franchise and what more could fans want but more fans? With more fans come more income for the company and therefore probably more content for that series whether it be more merchandise, books, comics, games, DLC or even movies. You keep wondering why we think it's selfish to demand it not be about Shepard because of the very likely chance it won't be about your Shepard (I mean that in a general sense not about you specifically). That comment saying it's a waste of time is selfish in itself. Fans should appreciate whatever BioWare comes up with instead of whining that it won't be what they want. If you really love BioWare quit being so demanding and accept whatever they decide is best.

[1upD]

c'mon... enter reality for a moment.

I tried it. It was too scary. There were all these wires everywhere, and I was naked in some kind of weird cacoon... Sorry, just saw the Matrix recently.

Anyway, I'm afraid you're probably right. I'm scared to think about what a terrible Mass Effect movie would be like.

[Dazaster Dellus]

Thank God people with common sense came into this thread! I was at the end of my rope with this discussion.

[Terror_K]

gamer_girl wrote...

I think it's rather laughable that you think doing a Shepard movie would be a "waste of time" and a "step backwards". Here you are ridiculing people for thinking it might work saying we "clearly [aren't] Mass Effect fans", when any true fan would be on board with whatever BioWare had to offer. I never said it had to be about Shepard to be successful and nor did anyone else. We just believe it's the best idea for attracting more people to the franchise and what more could fans want but more fans? With more fans come more income for the company and therefore probably more content for that series whether it be more merchandise, books, comics, games, DLC or even movies. You keep wondering why we think it's selfish to demand it not be about Shepard because of the very likely chance it won't be about your Shepard (I mean that in a general sense not about you specifically). That comment saying it's a waste of time is selfish in itself. Fans should appreciate whatever BioWare comes up with instead of whining that it won't be what they want. If you really love BioWare quit being so demanding and accept whatever they decide is best.

So you're saying you want Mass Effect to be retconned, rebooted and retooled just for the sake of getting a bigger audience, so that BioWare can have more money and create more of this retconned, rebooted and retooled Mass Effect stuff that doesn't even resemble the original Mass Effect in anything but name because all the aliens, characters and even visual designs will be changed to suit some new director who isn't even a fan's "vision" of what he thinks Mass Effect should be?

Geez, no wonder Hollywood is in the pathetic state that it is these days: the general public just don't give a damn about IP integrity any more whatsoever! They don't care that the property they like gets a do-over all the time, just as long as it becomes mainstream so they can get more of it! Even though it's not even the same any more! It's like you're basically yelling, "Yes! Sell-out BioWare! Sell-out so we can get more of your stuff!"

Quality of the original compared to the newer example aside, do you all really want this Mass Effect movie to bare as much resemblance to the original source material as Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica did to the original Glen A. Larson one? Where Garrus is suddenly a female do be this "badass alien chick" and The Reapers aren't an ancient race any more but something created by humans in the past, or some other retcon along similar lines?

Seriously... I get the whole, "we want more Mass Effect" angle, but you do realise that given history and modern Hollywood that what you're going to be getting is most likely not going to be the Mass Effect you know and love, right? That it'll probably just be another sci-fi movie that shares the name and some basic concepts and character names, but that's about it?

And it's a waste of time and annoys me not because it won't be showing my Shepard, but because it's a story that I've seen before in a more interactive and better medium. It's a story I helped write before and became a part of. Again, Mass Effect the games were already an interactive cinematic experience that was dynamic and showed you more than any movie could.  To rehash it and show me something I've already experienced in a far lesser way (except for perhaps visually) where I have no control and am only an observer is  big step backwards when part of the games' intent was to be a big step forwards for interactive cinema. That's like instead of bringing out next-gen consoles in the next few years, Sony decided to just bring out the PS2 again, Microsoft the original XBox and Nintendo the Gamecube, but they're just relabelled.

[Il Divo]

Terror_K wrote...

And it's a waste of time and annoys me not because it won't be showing my Shepard, but because it's a story that I've seen before in a more interactive and better medium. It's a story I helped write before and became a part of. Again, Mass Effect the games were already an interactive cinematic experience that was dynamic and showed you more than any movie could.  To rehash it and show me something I've already experienced in a far lesser way (except for perhaps visually) where I have no control and am only an observer is  big step backwards when part of the games' intent was to be a big step forwards for interactive cinema. That's like instead of bringing out next-gen consoles in the next few years, Sony decided to just bring out the PS2 again, Microsoft the original XBox and Nintendo the Gamecube, but they're just relabelled.

Have you ever read anything by Alan Moore? I'd recommend Watchmen and based on what you're saying, I think you'd agree with some of his beliefs regarding artistic mediums. He's a pretty famous comic book writer and is well noted for hating all film adaptations of his comic books, primarily because they attempt to adapt his stories to a completely different artistic medium, which often causes something critical to be lost in the translation.

This seems like a similar case. The Mass Effect experience is interactive by nature, while a film occupies a completely different medium; the viewer is passive in a film. Something will inevitably be lost going from one to the other.  

Modifié par Il Divo, 11 juillet 2011 - 02:50 .

[Ylhaym]

Terror_K wrote...
So you're saying you want Mass Effect to be retconned, rebooted and retooled just for the sake of getting a bigger audience, so that BioWare can have more money and create more of this retconned, rebooted and retooled Mass Effect stuff that doesn't even resemble the original Mass Effect in anything but name because all the aliens, characters and even visual designs will be changed to suit some new director who isn't even a fan's "vision" of what he thinks Mass Effect should be?

Who said "retelling Shepard's story" automaticaly = Retconned, rebooted and retooled? If done properly they can avoid any retcons. 

[Terror_K]

I like Alan Moore, yeah. Ironically I actually enjoyed the Watchmen film too and think it did an overall fairly good job by comparison to his comics. But yeah, I share his sentiments.

[stewie1974]

Terror_K wrote...

So you're saying you want Mass Effect to be retconned, rebooted and retooled just for the sake of getting a bigger audience, so that BioWare can have more money and create more of this retconned, rebooted and retooled Mass Effect stuff that doesn't even resemble the original Mass Effect in anything but name because all the aliens, characters and even visual designs will be changed to suit some new director who isn't even a fan's "vision" of what he thinks Mass Effect should be?

another example of this "self importance" is your quoting "Isn't a fans vision of what it should be" You are of the ilk that think you are the only "fan" out there...and that all fans share your vision.

I think it's safe to say we all love Mass Effect for very different reasons.

Geez, no wonder Hollywood is in the pathetic state that it is these days: the general public just don't give a damn about IP integrity any more whatsoever! They don't care that the property they like gets a do-over all the time, just as long as it becomes mainstream so they can get more of it! Even though it's not even the same any more! It's like you're basically yelling, "Yes! Sell-out BioWare! Sell-out so we can get more of your stuff!"

Yes, stay true to your 2 million fans of the franchise bioware, make a film just for us, a film that will likely BOMB at the box office because ONLY 2 million people in the world have a clue what its about, and even then we will be divided on our opinion of it and trash it for simply not living up to our expectations ANYWAY.

Quality of the original compared to the newer example aside, do you all really want this Mass Effect movie to bare as much resemblance to the original source material as Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica did to the original Glen A. Larson one? Where Garrus is suddenly a female do be this "badass alien chick" and The Reapers aren't an ancient race any more but something created by humans in the past, or some other retcon along similar lines?

terrible example... NEW bsg was far better than that dodgy late 70's star wars rip off  you want some other examples of films that have totally improved on the original ip's?

John Carpenters "The Thing" remake of "The Thing From Another World"
David Cronenbergs "The Fly" Remake of  "The Fly"

Seriously... I get the whole, "we want more Mass Effect" angle, but you do realise that given history and modern Hollywood that what you're going to be getting is most likely not going to be the Mass Effect you know and love, right? That it'll probably just be another sci-fi movie that shares the name and some basic concepts and character names, but that's about it?

well the characters I know and love -already- exist .....maybe fans should stop writting fan fiction, doing fan art, dressing up as fan characters because their interpretations seldom do justice to the ip either.... how bout that?

And it's a waste of time and annoys me not because it won't be showing my Shepard, but because it's a story that I've seen before in a more interactive and better medium. It's a story I helped write before and became a part of. Again, Mass Effect the games were already an interactive cinematic experience that was dynamic and showed you more than any movie could.

You no more helped write mass effect than I helped write peter jackson's "Chose your own adventure books" back in the early 1980's.... Psssst, the story and possible outcomes exist there in the source code .... like you know, when you the turn the page of a book, surprise, there is more text... you didn't -create- the story, you just turned to the relevent page.

To rehash it and show me something I've already experienced in a far lesser way (except for perhaps visually) where I have no control and am only an observer is  big step backwards when part of the games' intent was to be a big step forwards for interactive cinema.

Lucky they are talking about making a -movie- rather than a video game then isn't it?

[gamer_girl]

Terror_K wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I think it's rather laughable that you think doing a Shepard movie would be a "waste of time" and a "step backwards". Here you are ridiculing people for thinking it might work saying we "clearly [aren't] Mass Effect fans", when any true fan would be on board with whatever BioWare had to offer. I never said it had to be about Shepard to be successful and nor did anyone else. We just believe it's the best idea for attracting more people to the franchise and what more could fans want but more fans? With more fans come more income for the company and therefore probably more content for that series whether it be more merchandise, books, comics, games, DLC or even movies. You keep wondering why we think it's selfish to demand it not be about Shepard because of the very likely chance it won't be about your Shepard (I mean that in a general sense not about you specifically). That comment saying it's a waste of time is selfish in itself. Fans should appreciate whatever BioWare comes up with instead of whining that it won't be what they want. If you really love BioWare quit being so demanding and accept whatever they decide is best.

So you're saying you want Mass Effect to be retconned, rebooted and retooled just for the sake of getting a bigger audience, so that BioWare can have more money and create more of this retconned, rebooted and retooled Mass Effect stuff that doesn't even resemble the original Mass Effect in anything but name because all the aliens, characters and even visual designs will be changed to suit some new director who isn't even a fan's "vision" of what he thinks Mass Effect should be?

Geez, no wonder Hollywood is in the pathetic state that it is these days: the general public just don't give a damn about IP integrity any more whatsoever! They don't care that the property they like gets a do-over all the time, just as long as it becomes mainstream so they can get more of it! Even though it's not even the same any more! It's like you're basically yelling, "Yes! Sell-out BioWare! Sell-out so we can get more of your stuff!"

Quality of the original compared to the newer example aside, do you all really want this Mass Effect movie to bare as much resemblance to the original source material as Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica did to the original Glen A. Larson one? Where Garrus is suddenly a female do be this "badass alien chick" and The Reapers aren't an ancient race any more but something created by humans in the past, or some other retcon along similar lines?

Seriously... I get the whole, "we want more Mass Effect" angle, but you do realise that given history and modern Hollywood that what you're going to be getting is most likely not going to be the Mass Effect you know and love, right? That it'll probably just be another sci-fi movie that shares the name and some basic concepts and character names, but that's about it?

And it's a waste of time and annoys me not because it won't be showing my Shepard, but because it's a story that I've seen before in a more interactive and better medium. It's a story I helped write before and became a part of. Again, Mass Effect the games were already an interactive cinematic experience that was dynamic and showed you more than any movie could.  To rehash it and show me something I've already experienced in a far lesser way (except for perhaps visually) where I have no control and am only an observer is  big step backwards when part of the games' intent was to be a big step forwards for interactive cinema. That's like instead of bringing out next-gen consoles in the next few years, Sony decided to just bring out the PS2 again, Microsoft the original XBox and Nintendo the Gamecube, but they're just relabelled.

I took the liberty of bolding major insane points just to show how ridiculous you're making yourslef sound. You're making this so much more dramatic and exaggerated than it actually is by a gross amount. You say I have no faith in Mass Effect, but I think you have no faith in BioWare. If you honestly believe that they would let hollywood tear their story apart I think you're not only a horrible fan, but you have absolutely no grasp of reality whatsoever. Especially to the extent of Garrus changing genders and Reapers being a human made species. I have to tell you that that isn't actually how the world works. You seem to be under the impression that a film based on a story you've seen will ruin the franchise, and once again the selfish comment of it's-something-I've-seen-before makes another appearance. You can't let people new to the series have a positive experience just because the fan base supposedly isn't being catered to in your mind. You need to relax a bit, get a dose of reality, and let people enjoy something new, even if it isn't your cup of tea. I still find it insanely hard to believe that you're a BioWare fan when you have insanely high and selfish expectations of them and will discredit them entirely. You make it sound like if they made this movie about Shepard that they would let the series crumble. You need more faith in the company that I'm now doubting you actually love. Seriously, take a chill pill. One movie will not end the universe.

[Terror_K]

Ylhaym wrote...

Who said "retelling Shepard's story" automaticaly = Retconned, rebooted and retooled? If done properly they can avoid any retcons. 

Modern Hollywood. The very factors all these people are talking about in here in order for it to be a big mainstream success, apparently. It'll be like J.J. Abrams Star Trek, The A-Team movie, the Resident Evil movies, etc. all over again.

There are only two ways it can be done properly: 100% accuracy with no deviations whatsoever, or as a tie-in that isn't just a rehash of the original trilogy in any way. And even then, the former is a waste of time and a step backwards, because the games already provide that in a more interactive, personal and deeper way than a 2 hour movie ever could. The only good thing that could come out of that may be a way of getting some "ME1" toys such as Saren, Garrus, Ashley, Wrex, Liara, the SR1 Normandy, etc. but this is making the assumption that they won't all be dedesigned and retconned, etc. and given how Hollywood works these days I'd say that there's only about a 10% chance that everything will remain intact. And it's only even got that 10% at all because Casey Hudson is aboard and Mass Effect is still a very current IP, rather than something that hasn't been around a while.

[WilliamShatner]

I find it amusing that people still think this movie is going to be made.

[gamer_girl]

Terror_K wrote...

There are only two ways it can be done properly: 100% accuracy with no deviations whatsoever, or as a tie-in that isn't just a rehash of the original trilogy in any way. And even then, the former is a waste of time and a step backwards, because the games already provide that in a more interactive, personal and deeper way than a 2 hour movie ever could.

Once again you say it's a step back and a waste of time. I think you need to stop thinking about your incredibly high expectations and think about what PEOPLE NEW TO THE SERIES will think of it (bold and caps are because I think the point is going in one ear and out the other).  If they did a movie that catered only to fans, they wouldn't make enough money to pay for the production of your incredibly large expectations because the fan base just isn't big enough. Main reason why it wouldn't gross high: new people wouldn't follow what it was about if we go your way.

[stewie1974]

Movie is going to be for

gamer_girl wrote...

PEOPLE NEW TO THE SERIES

because

gamer_girl wrote...
fan base just isn't big enough.

Hopefully that get's the point across.

[Il Divo]

gamer_girl wrote...

Once again you say it's a step back and a waste of time. I think you need to stop thinking about your incredibly high expectations and think about what PEOPLE NEW TO THE SERIES will think of it (bold and caps are because I think the point is going in one ear and out the other).  If they did a movie that catered only to fans, they wouldn't make enough money to pay for the production of your incredibly large expectations because the fan base just isn't big enough. Main reason why it wouldn't gross high: new people wouldn't follow what it was about if we go your way.

On the other end of the spectrum, this is a point to consider too. The Godfather is widely regarded as one of the greatest films ever made, yet that was originally adapted from a novel and there were major parts cut out, which I personally regarded as an improvement.

I doubt this film will be the next Godfather, but a film should focus on making the best possible film, while paying proper respects to the source material.

Modifié par Il Divo, 11 juillet 2011 - 03:39 .

[gamer_girl]

stewie1974 wrote...

Movie is going to be for

gamer_girl wrote...

PEOPLE NEW TO THE SERIES

because

gamer_girl wrote...
fan base just isn't big enough.

Hopefully that get's the point across.

[Terror_K]

gamer_girl wrote...

I took the liberty of bolding major insane points just to show how ridiculous you're making yourslef sound. You're making this so much more dramatic and exaggerated than it actually is by a gross amount. You say I have no faith in Mass Effect, but I think you have no faith in BioWare. If you honestly believe that they would let hollywood tear their story apart I think you're not only a horrible fan, but you have absolutely no grasp of reality whatsoever. Especially to the extent of Garrus changing genders and Reapers being a human made species. I have to tell you that that isn't actually how the world works. You seem to be under the impression that a film based on a story you've seen will ruin the franchise, and once again the selfish comment of it's-something-I've-seen-before makes another appearance. You can't let people new to the series have a positive experience just because the fan base supposedly isn't being catered to in your mind. You need to relax a bit, get a dose of reality, and let people enjoy something new, even if it isn't your cup of tea. I still find it insanely hard to believe that you're a BioWare fan when you have insanely high and selfish expectations of them and will discredit them entirely. You make it sound like if they made this movie about Shepard that they would let the series crumble. You need more faith in the company that I'm now doubting you actually love. Seriously, take a chill pill. One movie will not end the universe.

Aside from the fact that BioWare games lately haven't been quite up to their usual standard (especially DA2), it's not BioWare I have issue with here: it's Hollywood in general. You say I need a grasp of reality?! Look at all the remakes, sequels and adaptations of existing material that have been turned into Hollywood dreck for the sake of a big box office smash they can throw out there to make a few million with because a familiar name will be enough to draw the numbers. 90% of these films have just been plain terrible, and so few actually stay true to the source material, instead sacrificing their style and depth to just appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Aside from the fact that this is the very mentality and process that BioWare went through themselves when making Dragon Age 2 and that it completely killed the IP, BioWare aren't making this film: Hollywood are. Legendary pictures if one wants to be more specific. With a script written by some chump responsible for another cheap adaptation cash-in from Hollywood at that. You say I don't have faith in BioWare or Mass Effect,  but I'm the one that believes there's more to the Mass Effect universe than just "Shepard vs. The Reapers" and it's the people on your side of the fence who are going on about the fact that in order to succeed as a movie it will have to be about the Shepard trilogy or it'll fail. Despite the backwards logic, since any newcomers don't even know anything much about the games anyway.

Sorry, but I won't take a chill pill. I've invested too much of time, money and life into getting into Mass Effect as a fan, and I don't want to see it dragged through the sewer waste just to appeal to the mainstream audience of today, because I've been down that road too many times before as it is, and I'm GOD-DAMNED SICK of it! I'm getting to the point where I'm constantly asking myself, "is there any point in investing any interest in any new IP that may be interesting?" because I know it'll probably either be canceled or retooled for a bigger audience, which always means bringing in all the mainstream crap I hate and getting rid of the stuff I like. I'm an old-school sci-fi fan who grew up watching Blade Runner, Aliens, the early Star Trek movies, TNG, Dune, Babylon 5, etc. which weren't cheap mainstream properties, but something made for sci-fi fans above all else. Mass Effect was like these old favourites when it began and that's why I got into it on more than just a game level. These days movies aren't made for particular groups anymore: they're all just made for the one biggest group.

Put it this way: if come Comic-con its announced that the movie is just a rehash of the games, I'll be canceling my pre-orders for the Normandy model, the next comic collection, Deception and the new Art Book. I don't see the point in wasting my time with an IP if it doesn't want me as a fan any more.