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[Professor Panda]

I'm so dissapointed in the people that have suddenly grabbed there pitch forks and declared the movie as horrible because it might be based off Shepard's arc. We don't even know if it is yet and people are already judging it. You have seem nothing as regards to the movie. You dont know anything. I myself dont care what its based on as long as its high quality.

[Trandoshan]

There is no reason for people to act that way in the first place considering we still have no idea what they're going to base the movie off of.

[SkittlesKat96]

If its based on Shepard's story then it could still be a really great movie, and it isn't going to live up to all the players expectations and visions but I think it won't kill the franchise and if it turns out bad or different we can just ignore it.

EDIT: Not saying the movie idea is a good idea, its a risky idea but I think they could probably pull it off and I'll appreciate it for what it is, even if it turns out different (if it turns out too different is a different case though.)

[Mongerty2]

makalathbonagin wrote...

Mark Protosevich-
The Cell (also producer)
Poseidon
I Am Legend
Thor




Mass Effect


I have a very bad feeling about this

What I see is a list of movies that gets progressivly better the more recent they are. A good pattern.

[ChurchOfZod]

How greedy and narcissistic are folks that seeing a "default" Shep on screen will ruin Mass Effect for them? Would anyone really forego seeing Wrex, Garrus, Tali, etc on screen in the reaper storyarc just because the movie Shepard doesn't have the specific hairstyle and armor that their own game Shepard does?

Modifié par ChurchOfZod, 23 juillet 2011 - 08:01 .

[Ninjapino]

ChurchOfZod wrote...

How greedy and narcissistic are folks that seeing a "default" Shep on screen will ruin Mass Effect for them? Would anyone really forego seeing Wrex, Garrus, Tali, etc on screen in the reaper storyarc just because the movie Shepard doesn't have the specific hairstyle and armor that their own game Shepard does?

It's not greedy and narcissistic to have a different opinion of what would be better for the franchise.  It's not that I would be pissed to see a different hairstyle and armor on a "default" Shep.  It's that I feel it would lessen the experiance for myself and a lot of people to see the a "default" Shep which would basically make everyone elses Shep "non-canon" to the franchise, so what was the point in making all those decisions? (One of the reasons I love the games as is).  Also, it won't ruin the franchise but it will stall an expanding universe.  From that moment on, the story of Shepard vs the Reapers would be the only story from that universe that matters to people.  Bad thing?  Not really.....but it does put ME in a corner, imo.

[ianmcdonald]

A movie Shepard invalidates your version no more than the marketing Shepard does. What's the big deal?

[Bocks]

ianmcdonald wrote...

A movie Shepard invalidates your version no more than the marketing Shepard does. What's the big deal?

WHINE WHINE ITS NOT MY SHEPARD WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE

[ianmcdonald]

Bocks wrote...

ianmcdonald wrote...

A movie Shepard invalidates your version no more than the marketing Shepard does. What's the big deal?

WHINE WHINE ITS NOT MY SHEPARD WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE

Pretty much.

[ChurchOfZod]

But everyone's Shepard is already non canonical. Does the fact that a girl in New York has a black haired femshep who killed the Rachni Queen or a kid in Wisconsin has a male with red hair who saved the Council get under your skin? Because a few million Shepards potentially exist, all different from yours, before a single frame of the movie has been shot.

The decisions you made in game were to propel your story and your story alone, forward. I don't see what anyone's game has to do with a movie. They are different animals. Obviously Bioware and Legendary want the strongest narrative and recognizable characters in order to help the film have a better chance at success. Shep is the most important figure in the ME universe as of now. Should they create a new character just for the film to serve as a stand in? Do we really need a Sarah Jackson or Bill Tetley to fight the Reapers so someone's feelings don't get hurt?

Maybe it's because I'm older than the demographic, but whenever I see talk about "my Shepard" I just want to tell people to grow up and look outside their own limited perspective. If it's a choice between the characters I love and the storyline that got us all hooked on Mass Effect being up on screen with a "default" Shep, or instead some made up creation or side story, I'll take the former.

Modifié par ChurchOfZod, 23 juillet 2011 - 06:37 .

[ChurchOfZod]

Previous post was in response to ninjapino

[The h0bb1t]

They just need to make a separate story, like the books and comics.
The universe if f*cking huge, and everyone knows this has the potential to be the best game movie-adaptation ever.
Telling the... no wait... Telling SOME version of Shepard's story would be just a waste of potential plot lines and characters.
Best chance of success is to make something completely different that fits into the lore.

And having Wrex, Tali, or some other alien (Maybe except from Asari.) in it is not a big problem, because they can allways take the orriginal voice actor.
Hell, most characters are even based n their VO's. As long as it does not include Shepard in anyway it would not be that bad.

Modifié par The h0bb1t, 23 juillet 2011 - 01:58 .

[ChurchOfZod]

So a side story or made up creation would be better as a film than the lone hero struggling and building alliances to fight machine devils that want to destroy all organic life. Right.

Shame no one thought of this tactic before Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and the Matrix came out. Who wants Luke Skywalker vs Darth Vader when we could have had Dane Hufflfluffer and his struggle against the Forest Pirates of Ganadaree 7?

[Demigod]

The universe may be huge for those of us that know it but what hook is there for those who dont?
Mass effect at the moment is Shep and the reapers. It doesn't matter is shep is male or female or what ever else happens in the universe they need a solid character and known story to base the film around. Introducing a new character yes you could but then you may as well not use the mass effect story at all as you wouldn't be following the main protagonist.
Set it at a different time? Yes you can but why as it has fewer and fewer links to the game no matter which way you go in time. Iit may be interesting to us but to everyone else it becomes another scifi film and loses more of its ties to the known quantity that is MAss effect.

It would be like having a tomb raider film without Lara croft. Until mass effect becomes an established film franchise it needs Shepherd.

Having said that this film is taking to long and if Ive read this right it doesn't even have a director attached, I really cant see it happening.

[LilyasAvalon]

Legendary Studios have made some pretty damn good movies in their time. It'll be interesting to see what'll happen, there's ALWAYS a default, canon Shepard they'll fall back on, so I don't see why people are freaking out about it now.

...Hell, at least you guys GET a movie. Dragon Age gets an anime movie made by Funimation.

[Spinotech]

From what I've read, it is my opinion that the movie panel provided no concrete evidence that the movie would be based on Shepard's story.  I don't think it should be based on Shepard's story for a variety of reasons.  If it is based on Shepard's story I will be slightly dissapointed and apprehensive, but that is unimportant.  What is important is for Legendary + Casey Hudson to make a Mass Effect movie that brings the wonders of the universe to both fans and those unfamiliar with the series.  As long as the movie is done well, I will enjoy it no matter what the plotline is.

[Leonia]

It's not the invalidation of player's Shepards that is the issue: it's that it takes the player out of the equation. It sort of makes it pointless to play the game if your choices end up being "wrong". Basically, it significantly lessons the playable experience.

Similarily, it's like watching your favourite book series turned into a movie, it sort of changes your perspective on the characters and their personalities because they now look and feel totally different. Just imagine, neither Jennifer Hale nor Mark Meer would be playing the part of Shepard, that right there is a significant change even if you ignore the player's influence and right to decide what Shepard will do in the games.

Besides, there are numerous other issues about turning ME1 the game into a movie, some relating to "why tell a story that has already been told" or "can't fit the whole story in one movie" or "there's so much untapped lore to delve into, wasted opportunity to focus on Shepard" to "would shift the focus away from the rest of the lore by putting too much emphasis on the Reaper conflict" or "establishes things that would have to be forced in sequels, such as the game-mechanic explanation of Shepard dieing and being resurrected would indeed become validated as a story mechanic and be forced to be referenced in future installments", etcetera..

Modifié par leonia42, 23 juillet 2011 - 03:27 .

[ianmcdonald]

leonia42 wrote...

It's not the invalidation of player's Shepards that is the issue: it's that it takes the player out of the equation. It sort of makes it pointless to play the game if your choices end up being "wrong". Basically, it significantly lessons the playable experience.

Similarily, it's like watching your favourite book series turned into a movie, it sort of changes your perspective on the characters and their personalities because they now look and feel totally different. Just imagine, neither Jennifer Hale nor Mark Meer would be playing the part of Shepard, that right there is a significant change even if you ignore the player's influence and right to decide what Shepard will do in the games.

Besides, there are numerous other issues about turning ME1 the game into a movie, some relating to "why tell a story that has already been told" or "can't fit the whole story in one movie" or "there's so much untapped lore to delve into, wasted opportunity to focus on Shepard" to "would shift the focus away from the rest of the lore by putting too much emphasis on the Reaper conflict" or "establishes things that would have to be forced in sequels, such as the game-mechanic explanation of Shepard dieing and being resurrected would indeed become validated as a story mechanic and be forced to be referenced in future installments", etcetera..

Why will people feel like their choices are "wrong" if things happen differently in a movie? It's no different that seeing the decisions someone else made. My Shepard made different choices than yours, so does that make your choices "wrong?" Of course not.

Also, movie adaptations of books don't change my perspective because I know one is a book and one is a movie. They're just two different ways to tell the same basic story.

Modifié par ianmcdonald, 23 juillet 2011 - 03:36 .

[Leonia]

It just changes the way you think and approach things. For example, I can never think of Hermione Granger as looking the way she did in my head back when I read the HP novels because the movie version has replaced her. Good for you if your brain can keep them seperate.

[goatman42]

leonia42 wrote...

It just changes the way you think and approach things. For example, I can never think of Hermione Granger as looking the way she did in my head back when I read the HP novels because the movie version has replaced her. Good for you if your brain can keep them seperate.

Thats always the worst, although it doesn't always happen to me. Like I can keep the Harry Potter characters seperate in my head because I had such a good mental image of them before, but with Lord of the Rings I can only see the movie characters. That ones not that bad though since the LOTR's movies were pretty spot on.

[Omega-202]

leonia42 wrote...

It just changes the way you think and approach things. For example, I can never think of Hermione Granger as looking the way she did in my head back when I read the HP novels because the movie version has replaced her. Good for you if your brain can keep them seperate.

Except there's already a visual and auditory version of all of the ME characters so that can't be an issue here.  

ME3 will be out before the movie, so the movie version CAN'T taint your approach to playing the games.  You'll have your version already well established long before the movies even get close to release.  

[The h0bb1t]

ChurchOfZod wrote...

So a side story or made up creation would be better as a film than the lone hero struggling and building alliances to fight machine devils that want to destroy all organic life. Right.

Shame no one thought of this tactic before Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and the Matrix came out. Who wants Luke Skywalker vs Darth Vader when we could have had Dane Hufflfluffer and his struggle against the Forest Pirates of Ganadaree 7?

If you want some epic space ophera, go watch the Starwars prequels.

You're totally missing the point.
You need an personal story if you want to get mainstream public even getting a bit interested in ME. An personal story like The Empire Strikes Back.
They just need to come up with new hero's and antagonist, and i think that will practicly handle itself as Bioware is working on this too.
And i'm not nesseceraly saying that they NEED to use FCW for the whole movie, but it could be used as an introduction for the first half hour, or less, of the movie. Or as an overall conflict like the empire versus the rebels in Starwars, setting the mood and the back-story for certain characters.
Using one of Shepard's story variants is just a simple way out, and it will be an massive turd on the ME franchise.
If you've read the books (or even the comics) you know they have enough characters and development in them to make at least an decent movie adaptation.
And i would love to see Anderson in his young years when he was up against Saren.

And by the way, the actualy did this with The Matrix, only the other way around; the Ani-matrix (which was damn impressive), Enter the Matrix and the Matrix Online, which is all considered as official lore and even had intended tie ins with the movie that you only noticed when you played the game.
(and personaly i didn't like the sequels that much, as The Matrix is just a way more personal and innovative movie, and the sequels were just action movies in comparison)

Modifié par The h0bb1t, 23 juillet 2011 - 05:23 .

[ChurchOfZod]

So they did all that for everything that wasn't a MATRIX MOVIE. Point missed. And ME is an epic space story. Hate to have to break it to you like this.

[Eternal Dust]

In this instance, I would rather they pull a Resident Evil and just make up complete crap about the story that isn't in the games.