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[Eshaye]

Omega-202 wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

I'm not a movie critic I don't have to go see something I know I'll be squirming in my chair while watching. I wouldn't buy a novel or a comic with another Shepard in it either. But I do have or plan on having everything else. That's sad? I don't know I find it rather dedicated.

I also don't read fanfic that describes their Shepards either, it's too weird for me. But I love those that don't do that. It's called a preference and it's all on BW's shoulders for making a game series that's custom to each player. I don't see this as a bad thing, it's actually pretty amazing. 

Other people say they won't watch the anime movie because they don't like anime. I guess those people are sad as well? 

Are we to assume that you only have 1 Shepard playthrough?  That every time you play the game, you make the same exact decisions?  That you've never watched someone else play either game?  

I'm sorry, but that's just absurd.  

That's exactly what I'm saying, I've had a few run throughs but it's mostly to perfect my save. That's okay if you don't get that.  

[Getorex]

Ya'll do know what the porn version of the Mass Effect movie will be right? "Massive Effect". Kinda like "Saving Private Ryan" is "Saving Ryan's Privates".

[gamer_girl]

Getorex wrote...

Ya'll do know what the porn version of the Mass Effect movie will be right? "Massive Effect". Kinda like "Saving Private Ryan" is "Saving Ryan's Privates".

I was thinking it'd be more along the lines of "Mass Erect".

[Steppenwolf]

Getorex wrote...

Ya'll do know what the porn version of the Mass Effect movie will be right? "Massive Effect". Kinda like "Saving Private Ryan" is "Saving Ryan's Privates".

"Massive Effect"? That's not a very good porn title. It doesn't have anything inherently sexual in it. **** Effect is much better.

[Getorex]

gamer_girl wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Ya'll do know what the porn version of the Mass Effect movie will be right? "Massive Effect". Kinda like "Saving Private Ryan" is "Saving Ryan's Privates".

I was thinking it'd be more along the lines of "Mass Erect".

Doh!  You win.  THAT is the perfecto title.

[shepskisaac]

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Modifié par IsaacShep, 24 juillet 2011 - 07:25 .

[InkognitoY]

The movie could be about the first contact war, Anderson's attempt to join the specters and Sarens indoctrination.

I personally hope the movie is not about Shepard, mostly because we have the games already, and a movie about the games will most likely leave those who have played very dissatisfied at the lack of depth and exploration that is bound to be in a movie. Not to mention the plot is probably going to be lacking, and I don't want to see a great story butchered by the movie making industry.

Unless of course the director is Christopher Nolan. Then I'll let him do whatever he wants because I can trust him to make an amzing film.

[gamer_girl]

Bleh Christopher Nolan is overrated.

[Getorex]

InkognitoY wrote...

The movie could be about the first contact war, Anderson's attempt to join the specters and Sarens indoctrination.

I personally hope the movie is not about Shepard, mostly because we have the games already, and a movie about the games will most likely leave those who have played very dissatisfied at the lack of depth and exploration that is bound to be in a movie. Not to mention the plot is probably going to be lacking, and I don't want to see a great story butchered by the movie making industry.

Unless of course the director is Christopher Nolan. Then I'll let him do whatever he wants because I can trust him to make an amzing film.

Sigh.  It is already official:  it is ME1. 

Sheesh.  The OTHER ideas are crap unless you are a fully knowing ME gamer.  99% of the viewing populace is totally ignorant of what ME is or means so SIDE stories or minor subplots are losers.  This movie is NOT intended with only the ME gamer audience in mind.  It CANNOT go off on little bitty side stories or back stories although I've argued that it COULD if they dropped the idea of theatrical release and did an HBO miniseries - with the game at the core.  They could do backstory - with Anderson ala "Revelations", do ME1, Bring Down the Sky, this or that side/backstory, ME2, etc.  A fair number of side missions in the game could be done in 2 hour episodes while still getting back to the main game story.  They wont do this so we are stuck with a trilogy and that REQUIRES the ME game itself with Shepard.

This argument grows tiresome in any case.  Case CLOSED:  the official word is the movie IS ME1.  So no need to argue that point any longer OR hope they don't make it about the game.  IT IS.  

How about focusing gripes and complaints and whatnot to directors, stars, writers?  No cast has been selected as yet (no doubt they have people in mind to ask) and so it is likely they are still in the early planning stages.  Deciding what from the game can be kept, and what needs to go (a lot, unfortunately, because it is only a 2 hour movie rather than a series of episodes on HBO as above). 

[ChurchOfZod]

gamer_girl wrote...

Bleh Christopher Nolan is overrated.

WIN. How many superdark, faux gritty, "mindbending" movies can one dude make before he gets considered a hack?

[shepskisaac]

Love when people jump at someone talented as soon as he/she gains recognition. "Overrated" immediately starts flying left and right.

[Getorex]

gamer_girl wrote...

Bleh Christopher Nolan is overrated.

I kinda agree.  I could go for Peter Jackson - he did a fine job bringing "Lord of the Rings" to life.  In any case, I would prefer a director with serious creds NOT making comic book/superhero movies.  This is NOT a comic book superhero movie or story.  It isn't X-Men either.  I want fallible and VULNERABLE characters, not invulnerable superheros nor do I want stylistic excess (like in "300" - by the way, about that "300"...it was more like 1200.  There were REALLY about 300 Spartans and more than twice that many Thespians and other soldiers who stuck it out and Darius, the Persian King was NOT some enormous, effete, loin-cloth-wearing freak - he was the King of one of the greatest, most powerful kingdoms of ancient history.  THAT is what I mean by stylistic excess - the froufrou sissification of Darius, the comic bookishness of the whole thing, etc).

[gamer_girl]

I don't think he's that talented. I can recognize when people are good at what they do. Spielberg is one of those people I see as very talented. Granted I haven't seen many Christopher Nolan films, but the ones I have seen I didn't like, or wasn't amazed with (I'm looking at you Dark Night and Inception).

Am I honestly the only person who saw Inception and merely thought it was ok? It wasn't "ZOMG THATZ DA BEST MUVIE I SAW EVEERRRRRRRRR". There's a reason King's Speech won that oscar instead of Inception. King's Speech actually was amazing, and wasn't an overhyped, mediocre film at best. And Dark Night was bad. Only good thing was Heath Ledger. His ability was probably the only reason it got so much money.

Modifié par gamer_girl, 24 juillet 2011 - 08:10 .

[Omega-202]

Eshaye wrote...


That's exactly what I'm saying, I've had a few run throughs but it's mostly to perfect my save. That's okay if you don't get that.  

No, its not that I don't get it.  Its a lie.  

I guarantee you that at some point in your playthroughs you made a different choice than you did in another one.  Saying otherwise is a lie.  If only because you didn't have enough Par/Ren points to unlock certain conversations in your first ME playthroughs.  Don't lie.  

Bringing me back to my point: if you made a different choice at some point, you have to acknowledge that "your" Shepard is not the only Shepard.  

[Getorex]

gamer_girl wrote...

I don't think he's that talented. I can recognize when people are good at what they do. Spielberg is one of those people I see as very talented. Granted I haven't seen many Christopher Nolan films, but the ones I have seen I didn't like, or wasn't amazed with (I'm looking at you Dark Night and Inception).

Am I honestly the only person who saw Inception and merely thought it was ok? It wasn't "ZOMG THATZ DA BEST MUVIE I SAW EVEERRRRRRRRR". There's a reason King's Speech won that oscar instead of Inception. King's Speech was amazing. And Dark Night was bad. Only good thing was Heath Ledger. His ability was probably the only reason it got so much money.

Spielberg...is dangerous to count on.  Sure, he CAN do amazingly fantastically good ("Shindler's List") but he can also do crap.  Depends on the material whether he goes off the rails or not.

Take ANY sci-fi he's done.  He ALWAYS throws in toddlers/little children characters and cutsie poopsie **** to thrill mommy and daddy with their toddler/pre-teen kid.  Blech.  Look at "Minority Report".  I actually liked the movie such as it went but HATED the throw-away slapstick bull**** "humor" with the rocket pack.  C'mon!  Aim at mature adults, NOT toddlers, NOT "adults" who dig shows and movies like "Jackass".  It is that tendency that makes Spielberg an iffy proposition as a director.

"The King's Speech".  Absolutely fantastic movie.  Get THAT director to do it, to stretch into sci-fi but as an ADULT and you could get a great movie.

[Dazaster Dellus]

I like Nolan. Not saying he is the greatest Director ever but he is good IMO. I really liked the Dark Night and I thought Inception was okay. Didn't really go crazy for that one though.

I think Spielberg wouldn't be a good fit for Mass Effect because he is more of a PG-13 guy. Has he ever done(Directed) an R rated filrm?(I know he has one or two. lol) I mean don't get me wrong, I would love to see a Spielberg R rated movie but I wouldn't want him to *try* it on ME. Also, after the last Indiana Jones.........Yeah.

Same with George Lucas. He seems to be a PG-13 comfortable guy. Though I remember hearing about how SWEp3 pushed the PG13 rating and almost hit R. Also knowing Lucas he would willingly sabotage ME just so it doesn't surpass SW.

James Cameron is busy with Avatar and I would expect him to also sabotage ME.

Ridley Scott would be a good choice provided he can still deliver like he did back in the day with Aliens. He also has a bunch of other great movies.

Nolan & Snyder would be my new school picks. Snyder over Nolan though. They just know how to make good movies. They can transform worlds better than most out there.

Honestly I am just happy that Uwe Boll and Paul Anderson are nowhere on the same continent as this production.

[gamer_girl]

Getorex wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I don't think he's that talented. I can recognize when people are good at what they do. Spielberg is one of those people I see as very talented. Granted I haven't seen many Christopher Nolan films, but the ones I have seen I didn't like, or wasn't amazed with (I'm looking at you Dark Night and Inception).

Am I honestly the only person who saw Inception and merely thought it was ok? It wasn't "ZOMG THATZ DA BEST MUVIE I SAW EVEERRRRRRRRR". There's a reason King's Speech won that oscar instead of Inception. King's Speech was amazing. And Dark Night was bad. Only good thing was Heath Ledger. His ability was probably the only reason it got so much money.

Spielberg...is dangerous to count on.  Sure, he CAN do amazingly fantastically good ("Shindler's List") but he can also do crap.  Depends on the material whether he goes off the rails or not.

Take ANY sci-fi he's done.  He ALWAYS throws in toddlers/little children characters and cutsie poopsie **** to thrill mommy and daddy with their toddler/pre-teen kid.  Blech.  Look at "Minority Report".  I actually liked the movie such as it went but HATED the throw-away slapstick bull**** "humor" with the rocket pack.  C'mon!  Aim at mature adults, NOT toddlers, NOT "adults" who dig shows and movies like "Jackass".  It is that tendency that makes Spielberg an iffy proposition as a director.

"The King's Speech".  Absolutely fantastic movie.  Get THAT director to do it, to stretch into sci-fi but as an ADULT and you could get a great movie.

Spielberg wouldn't be good for this movie, but he's made some amazing films. More good than bad in my opinion.

I think JJ Abrams is the best bet. If he could make me like Star Trek, that's really impressive because I didn't like the show at all.

Modifié par gamer_girl, 24 juillet 2011 - 08:29 .

[Fredvdp]

Dazaster Dellus wrote...

I think Spielberg wouldn't be a good fit for Mass Effect because he is more of a PG-13 guy.

I think Spielberg would be a bad fit because when he directs an adaptation he tends not to stay true to the source material. (Jurassic Park, The Lost World, Catch Me if You Can are some examples.)

[Getorex]

Dazaster Dellus wrote...

I like Nolan. Not saying he is the greatest Director ever but he is good IMO. I really liked the Dark Night and I thought Inception was okay. Didn't really go crazy for that one though.

I think Spielberg wouldn't be a good fit for Mass Effect because he is more of a PG-13 guy. Has he ever done(Directed) an R rated filrm?(I know he has one or two. lol) I mean don't get me wrong, I would love to see a Spielberg R rated movie but I wouldn't want him to *try* it on ME. Also, after the last Indiana Jones.........Yeah.

snip...

Honestly I am just happy that Uwe Boll and Paul Anderson are nowhere on the same continent as this production.

Shindler's List is "R" rated.  "Munich", "Catch Me if You Can" (R?), "Saving Private Ryan".  There's a lot of others too, but many are as producer rather than director.  He has a HUGE string of other movies/shows as director or producer, many of them crapola or childish/light fare. 

As for Uwe Boll or Paul Anderson...BITE YOUR TONGUE.  Bite it OFF, spit it into a hole in the ground, sprinkle lime on it, fill the hole with reinforced concrete, cover it with dirt, and salt the earth around it.

[littlezack]

Getorex wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I don't think he's that talented. I can recognize when people are good at what they do. Spielberg is one of those people I see as very talented. Granted I haven't seen many Christopher Nolan films, but the ones I have seen I didn't like, or wasn't amazed with (I'm looking at you Dark Night and Inception).

Am I honestly the only person who saw Inception and merely thought it was ok? It wasn't "ZOMG THATZ DA BEST MUVIE I SAW EVEERRRRRRRRR". There's a reason King's Speech won that oscar instead of Inception. King's Speech was amazing. And Dark Night was bad. Only good thing was Heath Ledger. His ability was probably the only reason it got so much money.

Take ANY sci-fi he's done.  He ALWAYS throws in toddlers/little children characters and cutsie poopsie **** to thrill mommy and daddy with their toddler/pre-teen kid.  Blech.  Look at "Minority Report".  I actually liked the movie such as it went but HATED the throw-away slapstick bull**** "humor" with the rocket pack.  C'mon!  Aim at mature adults, NOT toddlers, NOT "adults" who dig shows and movies like "Jackass".  It is that tendency that makes 

So...because Minority Report had a few scenes with a rocket pack...it was aimed at fans of Jackass. And toddlers. Right.

[Getorex]

littlezack wrote...

Getorex wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I don't think he's that talented. I can recognize when people are good at what they do. Spielberg is one of those people I see as very talented. Granted I haven't seen many Christopher Nolan films, but the ones I have seen I didn't like, or wasn't amazed with (I'm looking at you Dark Night and Inception).

Am I honestly the only person who saw Inception and merely thought it was ok? It wasn't "ZOMG THATZ DA BEST MUVIE I SAW EVEERRRRRRRRR". There's a reason King's Speech won that oscar instead of Inception. King's Speech was amazing. And Dark Night was bad. Only good thing was Heath Ledger. His ability was probably the only reason it got so much money.

Take ANY sci-fi he's done.  He ALWAYS throws in toddlers/little children characters and cutsie poopsie **** to thrill mommy and daddy with their toddler/pre-teen kid.  Blech.  Look at "Minority Report".  I actually liked the movie such as it went but HATED the throw-away slapstick bull**** "humor" with the rocket pack.  C'mon!  Aim at mature adults, NOT toddlers, NOT "adults" who dig shows and movies like "Jackass".  It is that tendency that makes 

So...because Minority Report had a few scenes with a rocket pack...it was aimed at fans of Jackass. And toddlers. Right.

Uh, did you SEE the movie and do you recall the scene I mention?  It wasn't just a rocket pack.  It was a rocket pack with silly slapstick physical humor poured all over it like syrup.  Nat, it had to end with the hapless riders flying through a floor of an apartment (you know, 2 x 10 joists on 16" centers, wood flooring, etc...just punch right through that) up into a dinner table at which a family is sitting and eating their dinner. 

All he needed to do to put a real finish on the scene would be to have them fly out a window and crash through a sheet of plate glass being carried across the nearby street and end with them splashing down in a damned fruit cart.

The premise of the movie required a GREAT deal of suspension of disbelief, of course, but then he had to add a HUGE helping of just plain stupid-silly slapstick.  The problem with Spielberg is he apparently assumes that if you are doing sci-fi, you don't have to take it seriously.  You can just add heaps of silly nonsense or cutsie toddler characters and all is well. 

He sucks at sci-fi.

Modifié par Getorex, 24 juillet 2011 - 08:59 .

[littlezack]

Getorex wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Getorex wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I don't think he's that talented. I can recognize when people are good at what they do. Spielberg is one of those people I see as very talented. Granted I haven't seen many Christopher Nolan films, but the ones I have seen I didn't like, or wasn't amazed with (I'm looking at you Dark Night and Inception).

Am I honestly the only person who saw Inception and merely thought it was ok? It wasn't "ZOMG THATZ DA BEST MUVIE I SAW EVEERRRRRRRRR". There's a reason King's Speech won that oscar instead of Inception. King's Speech was amazing. And Dark Night was bad. Only good thing was Heath Ledger. His ability was probably the only reason it got so much money.

Take ANY sci-fi he's done.  He ALWAYS throws in toddlers/little children characters and cutsie poopsie **** to thrill mommy and daddy with their toddler/pre-teen kid.  Blech.  Look at "Minority Report".  I actually liked the movie such as it went but HATED the throw-away slapstick bull**** "humor" with the rocket pack.  C'mon!  Aim at mature adults, NOT toddlers, NOT "adults" who dig shows and movies like "Jackass".  It is that tendency that makes 

So...because Minority Report had a few scenes with a rocket pack...it was aimed at fans of Jackass. And toddlers. Right.

Uh, did you SEE the movie and do you recall the scene I mention?  It wasn't just a rocket pack.  It was a rocket pack with silly slapstick physical humor poured all over it like syrup.  Nat, it had to end with the hapless riders flying through a floor of an apartment (you know, 2 x 10 joists on 16" centers, wood flooring, etc...just punch right through that) up into a dinner table at which a family is sitting and eating their dinner. 

All he needed to do to put a real finish on the scene would be to have them fly out a window and crash through a sheet of plate glass being carried across the nearby street and end with them splashing down in a damned fruit cart.

The premise of the movie required a GREAT deal of suspension of disbelief, of course, but then he had to add a HUGE helping of just plain stupid-silly slapstick.  The problem with Spielberg is he apparently assumes that if you are doing sci-fi, you don't have to take it seriously.  You can just add heaps of silly nonsense or cutsie toddler characters and all is well. 

He sucks at sci-fi.

It was one scene. In a movie with point black execution, impications of child rape and kidnapping, eyeballs, and suicide. I really doubt Speilberg was thinking 'Hey, the rest of this movie is quite mature', but hell I'll throw in this one scene for the kids!'

And what cutsie toddler characters?

[Getorex]

littlezack wrote...

Getorex wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Getorex wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

I don't think he's that talented. I can recognize when people are good at what they do. Spielberg is one of those people I see as very talented. Granted I haven't seen many Christopher Nolan films, but the ones I have seen I didn't like, or wasn't amazed with (I'm looking at you Dark Night and Inception).

Am I honestly the only person who saw Inception and merely thought it was ok? It wasn't "ZOMG THATZ DA BEST MUVIE I SAW EVEERRRRRRRRR". There's a reason King's Speech won that oscar instead of Inception. King's Speech was amazing. And Dark Night was bad. Only good thing was Heath Ledger. His ability was probably the only reason it got so much money.

Take ANY sci-fi he's done.  He ALWAYS throws in toddlers/little children characters and cutsie poopsie **** to thrill mommy and daddy with their toddler/pre-teen kid.  Blech.  Look at "Minority Report".  I actually liked the movie such as it went but HATED the throw-away slapstick bull**** "humor" with the rocket pack.  C'mon!  Aim at mature adults, NOT toddlers, NOT "adults" who dig shows and movies like "Jackass".  It is that tendency that makes 

So...because Minority Report had a few scenes with a rocket pack...it was aimed at fans of Jackass. And toddlers. Right.

Uh, did you SEE the movie and do you recall the scene I mention?  It wasn't just a rocket pack.  It was a rocket pack with silly slapstick physical humor poured all over it like syrup.  Nat, it had to end with the hapless riders flying through a floor of an apartment (you know, 2 x 10 joists on 16" centers, wood flooring, etc...just punch right through that) up into a dinner table at which a family is sitting and eating their dinner. 

All he needed to do to put a real finish on the scene would be to have them fly out a window and crash through a sheet of plate glass being carried across the nearby street and end with them splashing down in a damned fruit cart.

The premise of the movie required a GREAT deal of suspension of disbelief, of course, but then he had to add a HUGE helping of just plain stupid-silly slapstick.  The problem with Spielberg is he apparently assumes that if you are doing sci-fi, you don't have to take it seriously.  You can just add heaps of silly nonsense or cutsie toddler characters and all is well. 

He sucks at sci-fi.

It was one scene. In a movie with point black execution, impications of child rape and kidnapping, eyeballs, and suicide. I really doubt Speilberg was thinking 'Hey, the rest of this movie is quite mature', but hell I'll throw in this one scene for the kids!'

And what cutsie toddler characters?

I wasn't referring to Minority Report specifically.  I was referring to Spielberg's tendency (with virtually all sci-fi) to use the same small set of characters or themes.  Toddlers/adolescents is one of these tools.  Jurassic Park had the two absolutely unbelievable children aimed at wowing children (as if dinosaurs wasn't enough).  It is one thing to have children in a movie, but another to push them hard and make them be unbelievable children.  Then don't even get started on "ET: The Extratesticle".  Even the ALIEN SPACESHIP FLYING SUPER ADVANCED ET CHARACTER is basically a cutsey child/toddler character.  In fairness, George Lucas is MUCH worse when it comes to a tendency to toss in gratuitous pap for the toddler/adolescent crowd. 

The dirctor of the ME movie(s) must not go off the reservation.  No drifting from the source material into a barely recognizable facsimile of the story.  A Peter Jackson (ala LotR) is the model, not Spielberg.  Having the game creators involved SHOULD go a long way to protecting the story - they have a game franchise and fans to keep happy and pitchforkless.  Nolan is great for turning comic book superheros into movies but ME is not a comic book superhero story.  Ridley Scott COULD be good.

Modifié par Getorex, 24 juillet 2011 - 09:34 .

[littlezack]

How were the kids in Jurassic Park 'unbelievable', and how were they aimed at 'wowing children'?

And ET, as a whole, is aimed at children. That's sort of the point of the movie and character. Not all sci-fi has to be adult in nature.

Modifié par littlezack, 24 juillet 2011 - 10:00 .

[stewie1974]

Ridley Scott I maintain has not had a decent film since "Gladiator" sorry robin hood wasn't good...not at all... and I think blade runner and alien owe most of if it's success to the -visual- element.. H.R Giger produced the perfect organisim and the model makers and cinematographers on BR were astounding....

Ridley Scott has had more great fails than great successes...his successes are just more widely acclaimed, it's still a gamble either way... Also Ridleys Idea of direction is rolling 20 cameras and doing 500 takes of a scene then getting a good editior to chose the best bits... which is some how credited to -genius- , he's over rated... hire his best cinematographers and editors instead ..