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[steej]

Oh man, the movie could be SOOO good....but then it could be SOOO bad!

Either way, I'll go see it! can't wait!

I've always thought though that MassEffect would lends itself better to a TV series.
It'd have to be vast and involved like StarTrek, but with a darker underbelly and more serious tone like BattleStar:Galactica.
Sure it would have to have moments of humour but not as camp or prissy as Firefly and more story driven than the meandering efforts of the StarGate franchise.

Never happen though, no TV station would buy a show based on a computer game
Movie will do just fine.

Modifié par steej, 09 avril 2012 - 10:26 .

[Abraham_uk]

Mass Effect the movie

My expectations:

Poor acting
Bad directing
Deliberately shaky camera angles.
Lots of Michael Bay esque EXPLOSIONS
Cheesy renegade interupts with badass oneliners.
More poor acting.
Woeful or overly simplistic plot.
Pop corn extravaganza.

Did I mention explosions

If you can't deliver on an intelligent plot and amazing characters at the very least give me some action that will rock my world. Both would blow my mind but this is a film based on a video game. Expectations outside cheesy action are very low.

[CaptainMonday]

Sssoooo... When watching the Mass Effect movie, should I leave the cinema before the final 10 minutes out of fear that they will ruin an otherwise stellar experience?

[Silvair]

Robert-42 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

I never got the idea behind a "Mass Effect movie". It already IS a movie, albeit an interactive one.

It's literally already in movie format, all they'd have to do is clip together the cutscenes and conversations.

And yet you know they'd screw it up horribly, which is the saddest/funniest part.

Well, it's a 100h movie. If you want to watch such a longformat movie with you boy/girlfriend, your boy/girlfriend has to be a gamer, too

Edit: interpunkation

Its only that long due to the traveling, waiting around, and sidequests.  Trim it down to key points.

For example, in Mass Effect 1.

Eden Prime>Citadel>Spectre Admission>Gaining Liara>Feros>Noveria>Ilos>Showdown at the Citadel.

They could make that a goood...what, 3 hours, tops?  Dark Knight and Lord of the rings are good examples of cramming a LOT of content into a single movie.

Thing is, they'd need to stick with the "Default" shepard, and go with a kind of "canon" storyline..  If he romances anyone, it will likely be Liara, and of the two sacrificed on Virmire, it would likely be Kaiden, keeping Ashley around.  At the end, have a fight, AND saren shooting himself.

ME2, they'd need to skip some if not all of the "Loyalty" missions, as well as ditching some of the squadmates.

So it would probably go like

Collector Attack on Normandy (Or end the first movie on that scene as a cliffhanger)>Ressurection (Skip the tutorial, go straight into meeting up with Tali)>Freedom's Progress (Recruit Tali here instead of later), where you learn of the collector's>Omega to recruit Mordin (Happen to meet Archangel on the way, he wasn't in the dossier), so Tali and Garrus are back.>(can skip out on Grunt and jack, they aren't important)>Horizon>IFF retrieval (This is when the Normandy SR2 is ambushed)>Suicide mission.

Then the third movie would go something like

Attack on Earth (Shepard is on earth for being with Cerberus, as in the movie Arrival didn't happen)>Citadel>Palaven's moon>Tuchanka>Citadel Attack>Rannoch>London.

Most extra squadmates would be removed to save time (Can have them "just show up"< but skip on backstories.), with the only ones who need to be there, are Tali, Garrus, Wrex, Legion, Kaiden, Ashley, Miranda, Mordin, and Liara.  They could still skip out on Either Kaiden or Ashley, and only keep the one who needs to die on Virmire.

Thane, Jack, Grunt, Zaeed, Samara and Kasumi have no real role in the story that couldn't easily be glossed over.  Only glaring example is Thane during the Citadel Attack, but they  could just have Shepard repel Kai Leng on his own.  Speaking of Kai Leng, have shepard meet him while HSep is still a member of Cerberus, to build Kai Leng up a bit before 3.  maybe have him on Shep's Squad in place of Thane.

Liara becomes Shadow Broker off screen rather than helping her become it, and she shows up already with the info from Mars in ME3

This was off the top of my head right now, so it would need some slight weaking, but THATS how I see a movie version of the trilogy working out.    Trim out the extra content, patch up the spots caused by missing characters (Putting Kai Lang in sheps squad in 2, Liara becoming SHadow Broker on her own, or better yet, she always was the shadow broker, etc)

[1337Floctender]

Better Idea, an HBO Series in the theme of Game of Thrones. Lots lots of fighting and running around chasing qua- I mean leads. Lots of time to get to know the characters. Bring in a dew Writers from the first game to get them right and a three of four season series could totally be awesome!

[eoinnx03]

Is um...Casey writing it?

[Abraham_uk]

1337Floctender wrote...

Better Idea, an HBO Series in the theme of Game of Thrones. Lots lots of fighting and running around chasing qua- I mean leads. Lots of time to get to know the characters. Bring in a dew Writers from the first game to get them right and a three of four season series could totally be awesome!

Do a pilot first.

I would want to have an indication if the series is going to be worth while before investing money into something that will only have niche appeal. Your idea could work, with the right team and dedicated writers. But it would be difficult to get the series of the ground. Even the film is going to be a tall order. But getting people invest their time over many episodes over something that may end up being a dissapointment.

You know how fans treat dissapointments. With long campaigns and charity tie-ins. Loss of revenue to follow and major damage to company reputation. One film will only do so much to anger the fans, but an entire series could remove many people from the fan base. Ultimately fans are the people most likely to invest time in a Mass Effect series.




A big blockbuster will have a larger audience. It won't just be people who played Mass Effect games. There will be a lot of people who are fans of EXPLOSIONS, who will want to watch it.

People who think of Transformers films as masterpieces will want to watch Mass Effect the movie. Mass Effect will translate (in the mind of explosion fans) as Mass Destruction.


Your idea is better from an artistic potential point of view. The film idea is better from a revenue point of view. In other words a film will make more money.

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 10 avril 2012 - 01:27 .

[CuseGirl]

Abraham_uk wrote...

1337Floctender wrote...

Better Idea, an HBO Series in the theme of Game of Thrones. Lots lots of fighting and running around chasing qua- I mean leads. Lots of time to get to know the characters. Bring in a dew Writers from the first game to get them right and a three of four season series could totally be awesome!

Do a pilot first.

I would want to have an indication if the series is going to be worth while before investing money into something that will only have niche appeal. Your idea could work, with the right team and dedicated writers. But it would be difficult to get the series of the ground. Even the film is going to be a tall order. But getting people invest their time over many episodes over something that may end up being a dissapointment.

You know how fans treat dissapointments. With long campaigns and charity tie-ins. Loss of revenue to follow and major damage to company reputation. One film will only do so much to anger the fans, but an entire series could remove many people from the fan base. Ultimately fans are the people most likely to invest time in a Mass Effect series.




A big blockbuster will have a larger audience. It won't just be people who played Mass Effect games. There will be a lot of people who are fans of EXPLOSIONS, who will want to watch it.

People who think of Transformers films as masterpieces will want to watch Mass Effect the movie. Mass Effect will translate (in the mind of explosion fans) as Mass Destruction.


Your idea is better from an artistic potential point of view. The film idea is better from a revenue point of view. In other words a film will make more money.

Good point.....but if the story is going to make sense, i dont see how they can cram 30 hours of game into at MOST 2 and half hours of film. It actually would be better suited as a TV show, if it makes sense. To me, a show that makes sense is better for HBO/Showtime than a film that makes no sense made by Micheal Bay and has a good shot at flopping. I just can't take it if they pull an M Night Shama-something and ruin Mass Effect. Because then the general public will have the idea in their mind that Mass Effect and it's universe is terrible. If you're gonna take good source material and turn it into something else, turn it into the best possible somethign else....

[steej]

Abraham_uk wrote...

Mass Effect the movie

My expectations:

Poor acting
Bad directing
Deliberately shaky camera angles.
Lots of Michael Bay esque EXPLOSIONS
Cheesy renegade interupts with badass oneliners.
More poor acting.
Woeful or overly simplistic plot.
Pop corn extravaganza.

Did I mention explosions

If you can't deliver on an intelligent plot and amazing characters at the very least give me some action that will rock my world. Both would blow my mind but this is a film based on a video game. Expectations outside cheesy action are very low.

HA!

I so HATE bloody shaky hand cam!  It's meant to look more real and tense, but it just looks amature.

It'll probably be too dark to see anything too, thats their new trick these days.

But lets give them the benefit of the doubt, it could still be great!
</hope>

[steej]

CuseGirl wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

1337Floctender wrote...

Better Idea, an HBO Series in the theme of Game of Thrones. Lots lots of fighting and running around chasing qua- I mean leads. Lots of time to get to know the characters. Bring in a dew Writers from the first game to get them right and a three of four season series could totally be awesome!

Do a pilot first.

I would want to have an indication if the series is going to be worth while before investing money into something that will only have niche appeal. Your idea could work, with the right team and dedicated writers. But it would be difficult to get the series of the ground. Even the film is going to be a tall order. But getting people invest their time over many episodes over something that may end up being a dissapointment.

You know how fans treat dissapointments. With long campaigns and charity tie-ins. Loss of revenue to follow and major damage to company reputation. One film will only do so much to anger the fans, but an entire series could remove many people from the fan base. Ultimately fans are the people most likely to invest time in a Mass Effect series.




A big blockbuster will have a larger audience. It won't just be people who played Mass Effect games. There will be a lot of people who are fans of EXPLOSIONS, who will want to watch it.

People who think of Transformers films as masterpieces will want to watch Mass Effect the movie. Mass Effect will translate (in the mind of explosion fans) as Mass Destruction.


Your idea is better from an artistic potential point of view. The film idea is better from a revenue point of view. In other words a film will make more money.

Good point.....but if the story is going to make sense, i dont see how they can cram 30 hours of game into at MOST 2 and half hours of film. It actually would be better suited as a TV show, if it makes sense. To me, a show that makes sense is better for HBO/Showtime than a film that makes no sense made by Micheal Bay and has a good shot at flopping. I just can't take it if they pull an M Night Shama-something and ruin Mass Effect. Because then the general public will have the idea in their mind that Mass Effect and it's universe is terrible. If you're gonna take good source material and turn it into something else, turn it into the best possible somethign else....

TV show YES!

My opinoin shared!

[All-a-Mort]

Video game based movies suck. Always. No decent director would touch it, and frankly it'd either involve horrendous amounts of rubbish CGI or cheap 'Dr Who' paper-maché monsters. Hell, the Halo movie never got made and it looked a dead cert at one point and lends itself far better to cinematic treatment being linear in narrative without the paragon v renegade, ManShep v FemShep issue.

TV series is a nice idea, but it'd never work. Later Star Trek series got made because the brand was already known and networks were willing to invest, but Mass Effect is very niche and unknown outside of gaming circles. Hell many gamers have never even heard of it. Being Sci-fi it'd be very expensive in fx budget, and difficult to adapt and keep the plot gripping enough to maintain audience figures (focusing on the war would help though as per DS9 and BattleStar Galactica). Plot wise it works as a game, but for TV or movie it is too derivative with Krogan being too similar to Klingon, Geth and Reapers to Borg, The Citadel as Babylon 5 or DS9 and the Human relationship with Turians too Human v Minbari etc. 
In the end what's the betting it'd end up more like Andromeda or Star Trek Voyager than BattleStar Galactica?

Modifié par All-a-Mort, 12 avril 2012 - 10:40 .

[CuseGirl]

All-a-Mort wrote...

Video game based movies suck. Always. No decent director would touch it, and frankly it'd either involve horrendous amounts of rubbish CGI or cheap 'Dr Who' paper-maché monsters. Hell, the Halo movie never got made and it looked a dead cert at one point and lends itself far better to cinematic treatment being linear in narrative without the paragon v renegade, ManShep v FemShep issue.

TV series is a nice idea, but it'd never work. Later Star Trek series got made because the brand was already known and networks were willing to invest, but Mass Effect is very niche and unknown outside of gaming circles. Hell many gamers have never even heard of it. Being Sci-fi it'd be very expensive in fx budget, and difficult to adapt and keep the plot gripping enough to maintain audience figures (focusing on the war would help though as per DS9 and BattleStar Galactica). Plot wise it works as a game, but for TV or movie it is too derivative with Krogan being too similar to Klingon, Geth and Reapers to Borg, The Citadel as Babylon 5 or DS9 and the Human relationship with Turians too Human v Minbari etc. 
In the end what's the betting it'd end up more like Andromeda or Star Trek Voyager than BattleStar Galactica?

I love Mass Effect and I've never watched ANY of those sci-fi shows you mentioned. Ever. I do agree, almost all video games into movies suck (Super Mario Bros, Wing Commander....)

And yes, with the renegade/paragon thing, it would be a challenge, but it's not like they wouldn't go the easy route of Paragade MaleShep. We know that's where the show or movie would head. If it's done right and marketed properly, it would work, they just need good actors.

The ONLY reason I don't want ME made into a movie or show (and it's selfish and stupid, I know) is because by the time they get to the ME-2 portion, Yvonne Strahoxski would be like 45 years old and I couldn't BEAR to see some other anoerexic Brit or Aussie playing Miranda. It would kill me.....

[steej]

Dude! She's only 29 now!
If they take 15 years to make these films they may as well not bother!

The reapers will be here for real by then anyway!

@All-a-Mort
Hopefully because of all those reasons it might just work...maybe.

You're probably right though. It could end up more Andromeda Trek than BS:G.

[CuseGirl]

steej wrote...

Dude! She's only 29 now!
If they take 15 years to make these films they may as well not bother!

The reapers will be here for real by then anyway!

@All-a-Mort
Hopefully because of all those reasons it might just work...maybe.

You're probably right though. It could end up more Andromeda Trek than BS:G.

Why did I think she was older than that? hmmmm......good, hopefully she'll be around 35....lollll...I dead serious when I say I can't handle someone else as Miranda. It just won't make sense.....

I kno Mass Effect is niche and maybe it should stay that way....but man, I think the rest of the public is missing out on some good storytelling, especially with the robust crew in ME-2.

[gavccu]

I hope with the recent failure of John Carter, and the big success that was the Hunger Games Bioware haven't ruled out the possibility of a female protagonist. Despite the marketing emphasis on the Default male Shepard I personally feel that the ME trilogy is much more suited to a female lead character.

I understand that there is a lot more needed than just the gender of the lead to ensure that the movie is a success, however one can't fail to recognise the recent trend for lead female characters in blockbuster hits (Hunger Games, Prometheus)

[noobcannon]

Abraham_uk wrote...

Mass Effect the movie

My expectations:

Poor acting
Bad directing
Deliberately shaky camera angles.
Lots of Michael Bay esque EXPLOSIONS
Cheesy renegade interupts with badass oneliners.
More poor acting.
Woeful or overly simplistic plot.
Pop corn extravaganza.

Did I mention explosions

If you can't deliver on an intelligent plot and amazing characters at the very least give me some action that will rock my world. Both would blow my mind but this is a film based on a video game. Expectations outside cheesy action are very low.

dear god i hope this movie never happens.

i have faith bioware won't go through with it though unless they are 100% satisified with a script, much like microsoft wasn't with the halo movie.

[JXS nWp]

noobcannon wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Mass Effect the movie

My expectations:

Poor acting
Bad directing
Deliberately shaky camera angles.
Lots of Michael Bay esque EXPLOSIONS
Cheesy renegade interupts with badass oneliners.
More poor acting.
Woeful or overly simplistic plot.
Pop corn extravaganza.

Did I mention explosions

If you can't deliver on an intelligent plot and amazing characters at the very least give me some action that will rock my world. Both would blow my mind but this is a film based on a video game. Expectations outside cheesy action are very low.

dear god i hope this movie never happens.

i have faith bioware won't go through with it though unless they are 100% satisified with a script, much like microsoft wasn't with the halo movie.

The source material is obviously really good but I am just as aprehensive as you.
Movies that are based on video games are notorious for being absolute crap.
I think the only ones that has done well are the Resident Evil movies but while I enjoyed them, they are not what I would call deep in story like Mass Effect is.

[atis]

if it's done the same way thay did game I think I'd give it a miss
(I wonder if you can make clarification paches for movies?)

[StRaioh]

gavccu wrote...

I hope with the recent failure of John Carter, and the big success that was the Hunger Games Bioware haven't ruled out the possibility of a female protagonist. Despite the marketing emphasis on the Default male Shepard I personally feel that the ME trilogy is much more suited to a female lead character.

I understand that there is a lot more needed than just the gender of the lead to ensure that the movie is a success, however one can't fail to recognise the recent trend for lead female characters in blockbuster hits (Hunger Games, Prometheus)

I am really sorry, but I disagree. You see, female Shepards tend to excel at being Paragons, whereas male Shepards are usually best when played Renegade. You see this due to the quality of each respective VA's voice casting between the two choices. Meer has a very strong, imposing presence as a Renegade.

Besides, The Hunger Games is a completely different universe than Mass Effect, and I for one would certainly be more receptive to a male Shepard because, just as you would be more receptive to a female Shepard, I picture him in that way in my mind's eye.

[AdmLancel]

Personally I thought the Renegade/Paragon Fem/Male split was the opposite. Meer does have a deep voice though which is Renegade suitable, but sometimes Hale sounds just serial killer scary. I digress though. I figure it will be a male Shepard, but I almost hope for a relatively unknown actor to take the role and fill it as Shepard, and not your average action movie star taking the role and playing pretty much how they did in all the other movies. Shepard deserves better.

Not to say that I wouldn't love seeing a FemShep lead for a Mass Effect movie, as you don't normally see a female lead in a space opera like this. Shepard occupies a leadership position, a command position, and is looked to for guidance. It's not the kind of role one normally sees a woman filling in this genre. Ripley in Aliens is about the closest we get. Even Sarah in T2 was willing to defer to John, and he was just a kid (though that was kinda the point, since John was supposed to become the great leader). Still, those examples could serve as a gentle reminder that you can make it work.

Regardless, I'll be happy as long as they really spend some time with Shepard's character development, and do a mix of Paragon and Renegade. He or she should feel like a living, breathing person, not a generic action badass. If that means a few less explosions, I'm completely fine with that.

Modifié par AdmLancel, 13 avril 2012 - 06:14 .

[translationninja]

Can we get Verne Troyer as Casper the space ghost please?

[natesaint23]

I would say go with John Shepard as the main. So many films these days feature female protagonists that it is a novelty act, a fad. The Thing prequel, Evil Dead remake, The Girl Who Blah Blah a Hornet, and so on. John Shepard is the character that people most recognize as the Commander.
Liara would have to be the main love interest, even though I believe she gets less attractive in the last 2 games. Ashley is a space racist, and should die on Virmire. Kaidan is the superior officer, and the superior character in 3.
Just have Keith David play Anderson. Stick to Eden Prime, Therum, Feros, Noveria, and Ilos as the planets. Oh yeah, that Citadel thing should show up also.
And Keith Richards should still be alive, somehow.

[NatOreN]

natesaint23 wrote...

I would say go with John Shepard as the main. So many films these days feature female protagonists that it is a novelty act, a fad. The Thing prequel, Evil Dead remake, The Girl Who Blah Blah a Hornet, and so on. John Shepard is the character that people most recognize as the Commander.
Liara would have to be the main love interest, even though I believe she gets less attractive in the last 2 games. Ashley is a space racist, and should die on Virmire. Kaidan is the superior officer, and the superior character in 3.
Just have Keith David play Anderson. Stick to Eden Prime, Therum, Feros, Noveria, and Ilos as the planets. Oh yeah, that Citadel thing should show up also.
And Keith Richards should still be alive, somehow.

I say no. We've already got the games, I see no reason for them to basically remake them in movie form. It feels pointless, we'd just be seeing another playthrough with set choices, complete waste of time and money. The timeframe might possibly work, having the movie set during the games, but we'd need a different protagonist for certain.

[gavccu]

StRaioh wrote...

I am really sorry, but I disagree. You see, female Shepards tend to excel at being Paragons, whereas male Shepards are usually best when played Renegade. You see this due to the quality of each respective VA's voice casting between the two choices. Meer has a very strong, imposing presence as a Renegade.

Besides, The Hunger Games is a completely different universe than Mass Effect, and I for one would certainly be more receptive to a male Shepard because, just as you would be more receptive to a female Shepard, I picture him in that way in my mind's eye.

Likewise, and respectfully, i don't agree with your opinion; firstly i dont think the games VA differentiate between Paragon/Renegade, as both actors portray both sides to Shepards character explicitly to the full.

The Hunger Games as you state is different to the ME universe and i would make no attempt to compare them. I was just saying that Jennifer Lawrence's portrayal of the lead character in that movie shows how a strongly written and strongly portrayed female lead character can suit a science fiction story and offer a fresh perspective to the story and a complex character like Commander Shepard. It is just my opinion but i can't see in my own head a male lead character who is not exempt from comparisims with every other science fiction hero (Avatar etc.) and therefore potentially cliche

Modifié par gavccu, 13 avril 2012 - 10:14 .

[Luis_Said]

Good Night, how great is this, mass effect movie
I can use really good news like this one.
Im eager to see the movie and the extended Dlc to tell what happen to our Friends abord the normady.

For all Mass effect Fans:

I will Hold the line !!!!

Modifié par Luis_Said, 13 avril 2012 - 10:42 .