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[Vubica]

Wolfva2 wrote...

All I know is they should get Joss Whedon to direct, and Nathan Fillion as Shepard. Allen Tudyk would be a great Garius. Maybe Morena Baccarin as Liarra. Yeah. I'd feel real serenity if that happened....

srsly Nathan Fillion? as for garus, liara they can be done by their ingame actors since im pretty sure most aliens will be 90% CG , then again why would u want a shep centric story is beyond me...

[TheInquisitor]

Possible picks for Shepard

Paul Walker


Logan Marshall Green


Wentworth Miller

[Ryquist]

Better be a two and a half hour movie.

[KevinT18]

Better HAPPEN PROPERLY

Might as well give it to JJ Abrams.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

I think this Mass Effect movie is going to suffer from adaptation distillation*, executive meddling, and casting choices that will likely alienate certain segments of fandom**. Personally, I'm more of a fan of FemShep anyway, and I'm kind of pissed off that this movie is only helping to cement the incorrect belief that Shepard is canonically male and that a canonical Shepard even exists.

Now that we have established that Shepard will be based to some degree on Sheploo (*shudder* hate that "default Shepard" marketing mascot), there's the question of romance. Are they going to pair him up with Liara (which I find to be the more interesting relationship, personally) or are they going to play it safe and have him fall for Ashley Williams, because the execs average movie-goers would find the hero romancing a hairless, tentacle-headed blue alien chick from a mono-gendered species squicky?

Those considerations aside, video game movies do not have a good track record. Even though video games have a devoted fandom like comic books do and there are great video games just as there are great comic books, I have yet to see a video game movie made by a creative team that reveres the source material enough to try to elevate it above the mediocrity that this type of adaptation is mired in. I get the feeling that directors and writers who get hired onto these sorts of film projects think to themselves, "Oh, s***. I'm stuck making/ penning a crappy video game movie. Oh well, at least it pays the bills. Time to go on autopilot and get this piece of garbage made/ written so I can move on to bigger and better things."

I really do want to believe tha somebody out there in Hollyweird actually cares enough to get a good, even great Mass Effect movie made, but I'm not holding my breath and I somehow suspect this movie isn't going to be "The Dark Knight", "Batman Begins", or even "The Avengers" (Marvel, not the awful adaptation of the brilliant 60s show) that breaks the mold and makes video game movies respectable.

* Unavoidable when you're trying to make a two hour (give or take) movie out of a game that takes forty or so hours to play. Even with all the Mako side-quests removed, it might be difficult to capture the essence of the story or fit it cleanly into three acts.

** I wouldn't want to see anybody other than Seth Green play Joker, even if he really doesn't look much like the character he provided voice work for. I don't care what anybody says, look at these two images.


... and don't even get me started on the Keith David looks just like David Anderson thing. Both the actor and the character he plays are black. That's where the similarities end.

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 13 février 2013 - 11:48 .

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Ryquist wrote...

Better be a two and a half hour movie.

Length won't matter if it sucks. Length is the least of my concerns. God that second sentence sounds awfully sexual, if read out of context... :innocent:

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 13 février 2013 - 11:52 .

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Vubica wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

All I know is they should get Joss Whedon to direct, and Nathan Fillion as Shepard. Allen Tudyk would be a great Garius. Maybe Morena Baccarin as Liarra. Yeah. I'd feel real serenity if that happened....

srsly Nathan Fillion? as for garus, liara they can be done by their ingame actors since im pretty sure most aliens will be 90% CG , then again why would u want a shep centric story is beyond me...

Nathan Fillion would be fine if they were casting against the expectation that Shepard needs to look anything like boring old John Shepard/ Sheploo. I'd prefer they cast Nathan Fillion, or better yet, someone like Idris Elba, who is black (I had a Renegade jerk-ass Shepard who looked kind of like Jamie Foxx, quite by accident). Elba is not only talented and incredibly charismatic, but the further away from looking like Sheploo movie Shepard's is, the better.



As for Liara, she can be done entirely using make-up prosthetics. No need for CG. Also her voice actor doesn't look anything like her.


Liara T'Soni's appearance was based on Jillian Murray's face.

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 13 février 2013 - 12:07 .

[KevinT18]

Awww....they're both so cute!

Teryn you're so right. A lot of the major plot points will have to be pulled out to make room for the ones they do want to explore.

honestly...ideally...I think a 3 hour movie would be marketable, and enough to fit the whole introduction, council, eden prime, Feros or Noveria, Virmire/Ilos, and the Citadel climax. The benezia / Feros plots I see are the easiest to cut without affecting the core of the movie.

But let's be honest, this film is at least 5 years away, if not many, many more.

[Argentoid]

The Illusive Man's facemodel is actually an actor

Modifié par Argentoid, 13 février 2013 - 04:01 .

[Leejjohno]

http://www.imdb.com/...59040/nm0493699

That guy has sci-fi experience and looks a bit like the default shepard... I think he can pull it off.

[Wolfva2]

Vubica wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

All I know is they should get Joss Whedon to direct, and Nathan Fillion as Shepard. Allen Tudyk would be a great Garius. Maybe Morena Baccarin as Liarra. Yeah. I'd feel real serenity if that happened....

srsly Nathan Fillion? as for garus, liara they can be done by their ingame actors since im pretty sure most aliens will be 90% CG , then again why would u want a shep centric story is beyond me...

It was...a joke.  Hence the line, "I'd feel rea serenity if that happened...."  Serenity being the Firefly movie?  Ya know, in case you didn't know that?  Or, didn't catch the reference?  Or that every person I mentioned was in Firefly and Serenity?

As much as I like Fillion, he's not intense enough for Shepard.  Now, Ron Glass would make a great Shepherd....(yes, that's another Firefly joke). 

To be serious, Eric Bana might make a good Sheperd.  Though if they actually do make the movie, it might do best with unknown actors.  And I STILL think Joss Whedon should direct.  That wasn't a joke.  And they would almost NEED to hire Seth Green as Joker.  Movie wouldn't be the same with anyone else as him.

[Jonata]

The fact that this movie is currently in development hell means that there will be fan-casting for years and years. I wonder how weird will it become.

[KevinT18]

John that bs about them making sure they were getting it right through BioWare by Legendary was part of a statemenent released 3 years after ME was acquired for a movie. It's now been 5 years, and the script has changed hands from BW writers to a nobody/fan/non-writer. Safe to say that statement is irrelevant now

[Jonata]

Fact is that dozens of games rights get bought from studios every year, but that doesn't mean that there's an actual movie coming. The VG movies business is still a dangerous one and I don't think that Warner Bros. and Legendary, which have already a lot of ongoing projects, will want to risk so much with a completely new franchise. Also, the whole endings problem did damage ME's public reception a little bit.

If the next big VG movie will be a huge hit (I'm pretty sure it's Warcraft, which is coming towards a 2014/2015 release with a writer and a [great] director already attached) then we'll see Studios rushing to get those properties made into movies. Until then, Warner will just sit on these rights and wait.

Modifié par Jonata, 15 février 2013 - 07:17 .

[cindercatz]

Warcraft's getting a movie? ?? I guess they can pretty much fill in the blanks and not worry with pre-existing plot with that franchise.

I am a little worried we haven't heard anything about this in so long. I hope it does get made, one way or another. As long as it's with Legendary, it should meet a certain level of quality no matter what they do. I hope it happens.

[Atekimagus]

I am probably in the minority here, but I would actually prefer if they'd make it a completely animated cgi movie quite similar to the "Take back earth" trailer and featuring the original voice actor cast.

It would also enable them to make it relativly simple to produce the movie with a Shepard/Femshep lead. Now that would be a nice novelty wouldn't it? Have cinemas show one version on even, the other on uneven days.

Well on second thought I actually would prefer if they'd scrap the movie and turn this into a mini-series, 5-10 episodes each game/season. Would be enough to do the story justice, have a few character driven parts etc....putting a whole game into one movie means that either huge parts are left out or you have next to no character development since they rush from one scene into the next.

[Jonata]

cindercatz wrote...

Warcraft's getting a movie? ?? I guess they can pretty much fill in the blanks and not worry with pre-existing plot with that franchise.

I am a little worried we haven't heard anything about this in so long. I hope it does get made, one way or another. As long as it's with Legendary, it should meet a certain level of quality no matter what they do. I hope it happens.

Duncan Jones, director of great Sci-Fi movies like "Moon" and "Source Code" and an actual game geek, said that Warcraft is probably the best franchise to start doing great VG movies. Honestly I'm with him: even if it's "just" a gameplay-driven MMORPG, Warcraft has an incredibly rich fantasy background full of the craziest concepts you'll ever see. 

That being said, if that movie really smashes the box office you can bet that Legendary will want to start adapting their game properties. It's all about showing suits and producers that a VG movie can make money, the rest will come by itself. 

Atekimagus wrote...

I am probably in the minority here, but I would actually prefer if they'd make it a completely animated cgi movie quite similar to the "Take back earth" trailer and featuring the original voice actor cast.

It would also enable them to make it relativly simple to produce the movie with a Shepard/Femshep lead. Now that would be a nice novelty wouldn't it? Have cinemas show one version on even, the other on uneven days.

Well on second thought I actually would prefer if they'd scrap the movie and turn this into a mini-series, 5-10 episodes each game/season. Would be enough to do the story justice, have a few character driven parts etc....putting a whole game into one movie means that either huge parts are left out or you have next to no character development since they rush from one scene into the next.

Y'know, I always entertained the idea of a Mass Effect series (I'd rather prefer physical FXs than CGI however, I don't mind losing a couple of beloved voice actors in favor of good actors for the characters) but we need to look at what Warner Bros., owner of Legendary, often does to translate their properties into TV series.

They make these teen things like Smallville or the recent Arrow, stripping the original material of everything in the name of teen appeal, with awful writers writing one awfule episode after the other.

If we were in the ealry 90s, with people like Joss Whedon and Marty Nixon still rockin' the TV series world, it would've been a good idea, but with the TV landscape we have these days it's better hoping they'll hire a good screenwriter and do a good job with the movie itself. (IF they will go forward, offcourse, which sadly is not a given fact) 

[Atekimagus]

True, but then the games pretty much are already movies with the occasional action sequence inbetween, all you'd needed to do was flesh it out a bit.

As for writer.....is there something prohibiting them to just hire the guy/guys who came up with it in the first place, except common sense? With respect to whedon for example, but wouldn't you rather have one familiar with the source material? Hire maybe a guy helping out turning it into a movies script but give the creative control to the writers who invented the whole thing.

But I do understand what you are saying and alas you are probably right.

[Jonata]

Atekimagus wrote...

True, but then the games pretty much are already movies with the occasional action sequence inbetween, all you'd needed to do was flesh it out a bit.

As for writer.....is there something prohibiting them to just hire the guy/guys who came up with it in the first place, except common sense? With respect to whedon for example, but wouldn't you rather have one familiar with the source material? Hire maybe a guy helping out turning it into a movies script but give the creative control to the writers who invented the whole thing.

But I do understand what you are saying and alas you are probably right.

This is a question that often comes up even regarding the recent wave of good superhero movies: why they don't just give creative control to the people who write those stories in the first place? Why is not Brian Michael Bendis supervising the script for Captain America: The Winter Soldier, based on one of his most acclaimed storyline?

I think the point is that A) ultimately, in Hollywood producers and suits have the last word and they wouldn't let a belligerant "artist" to feel too much attached to a movie, but most important comics, videogames and movies are, despite the similarities, very different media.

Case in point: the Uncharted series. As a game, you would believe it stands as an astounding piece of narrative, with cutscenes between gameplay standing as a movie on its own terms. The hard truth is that, as a movie, Uncharted would barely qualify as a bad Indiana Jones rip-off without some adjustments. 

Even with Mass Effect, a game far more complex and well-crafted when it come to cutscenes, you would have to apply some rules. Movies have their own rules when it comes to plot twists, action moments, narrative pauses. You can't just skip the gameplay sequences, put all the cutscenes of ME1 together and call it a day. You need to trim the plot, present the characters in a certain way, find the right moments to bring the action if it's a big blockbuster that needs to attract the proper audience.

It's immensely more complicated and that's why you need professional screenwriters coming from the world of movies and not only from the world of games. People like Joss Whedon, who wrote and loved comics but knows how to handle a movie and/or TV series, are exceptions, most game writers would have a very hard time working within the rules of cinematography.

I wrote another damn wall of text and I apologize for it, but I hope the point has been made! 

Modifié par Jonata, 17 février 2013 - 02:20 .

[Atekimagus]

No no, it's okay you make good points after all and I agree on the whole.

That is why I said they would need to bring in a guy with movie-script experience to make this workable. However, they should - if possible - try to stay clear of writers who are unfamiliar with the franchise and - maybe more importantly - are hellbent on putting their own stamp on it. So the creative control should stay with the original writer imho.
That is why - imho - it could even be better if they don't get an A-class writer/director but someone who has the technical expertise however next to no wish to "re-imagine" the whole thing but stay as true to the source material as possible.

Now Whedon was a good choice for a comic movie, since he is familiar with the source material, more importantly a huge fan himself and an excellent movie-maker. However how he would handle a franchise he probably knows next to nothing about and if he'd be humble enough to treat the source material with respect....who knows....?

That is why - on the whole - I would prefer the movie - if ever made - to be done as animation, just like the CGI trailer "take back earth". Seems animation studios have more freedom as to what and how they make movies compared to all the strict hollywood formulas. (Also, having characters you have known throughout 3 games sounding completely different, no matter how similar in appearance.........for me that's a big turn off. And I doubt they get all the actors who are at least theoretical real life options, like Green or Strahovski.)

It would also enable them easily to have two leads throughout the whole movie (male/female shepard) which is an unique selling position right there, I know of no other movie which ever had that.

Modifié par Atekimagus, 17 février 2013 - 04:46 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

John Spartan248 wrote...

I read that Bio-Ware were ensuring that Legendary Pictures were getting this as accurate as possible and as close to the game, characters, features, sets etc, that's why it's taking so long. Hopefully that's correct and we end up with a superb film. I'd rather wait an extra year for something outstanding with a roll on legacy than something that's second rate or worse.

An update would be appreciated Mr Priestley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One strong possibility is that it's taken so long because of the recent struggle between Warner Bros. and Legendary pictures, thus freezing the production.

[Nearlas]

The only way they could do this right is to have it done as a series on HBO, Showtime, etc. Have 3 seasons of 12-15 episodes each. Each season would represent each game. Doing a 2-3 hour movie won't cut it.

[Wolfva2]

I wouldn't mind a CGI movie/series. Heck, even if it's live action a large portion would be CGI anyways. But it would have to be done RIGHT. Ie, by the guys who did the trailers.

I do know that if Uwe Bolle gets picked to direct......<readies the pitchforks and torches>.