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[Valcutio]

http://www.gamespot....tor;all;title;5

I just ran across this article. Viewing the comments, you can pretty much get a feel for where the PC community feels the blame lies.

So, do you think this is just a set-up for Origin or do you really believe the PR machine that EA just doesn't like the disconnect between them and the consumer base?

Personally, I'm a Valve fan and I'd take their word over EA's on anything.

[naughty99]

"Unfortunately, if we’re not allowed to manage this experience directly and establish a relationship with you, it disrupts our ability to provide the support you expect and deserve," DeMartini said.

TRANSLATION:

"Unfortunately, if we’re not allowed to manage this experience directly and establish a sales relationship with you, it disrupts our ability to provide the support you expect and deserve sell you more stuff" DeMartini said.

[Chromie]

I think it's bull**** just because EA has never had good customer support. Also why is Dragon Age, Kotor, Mass Effect and a bunch of other EA games still available through Steam?

[Valcutio]

Ringo12 wrote...

I think it's bull**** just because EA has never had good customer support. Also why is Dragon Age, Kotor, Mass Effect and a bunch of other EA games still available through Steam?

I was actually wondering this myself. I just checked and Crysis 2 has been removed but the other games are still there.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Digital distros are the future, baby. It won't be long before you buy all your games straight from the publisher.

[Crimmsonwind]

Valcutio wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

I think it's bull**** just because EA has never had good customer support. Also why is Dragon Age, Kotor, Mass Effect and a bunch of other EA games still available through Steam?

I was actually wondering this myself. I just checked and Crysis 2 has been removed but the other games are still there.

Maybe it's because they already have a bunch of people who purchased them through Steam? Not sure.
Iif they do remove them from the Steam store, I want to know if they're still going to patch the games through Steam for the people who own Steam copies. >.<

I really wish they would just stick with Steam and stop pushing Origin, but if they clean up their act and Origin is actually alright, I guess I can live with it.<_<

[Seagloom]

I'm not buying David DeMartini's explanation, but it's hardly a surprise EA's head of global e-commerce would try to put a positive spin on it. That said, it doesn't matter to me. Steam is a sales juggernaut. I don't feel pity for them missing out on a few exclusive games.

[Computer_God91]

EA can kiss my ass. I'm not making an Origin account, if they don't want to sell me their games through steam then I'll buy them physically from Gamestop. I. Will. Never. sign up for Origin.

Modifié par Computer_God91, 07 juillet 2011 - 01:21 .

[Turnip Root]

It's EA's products, they can sell it how they want and to whom they want. Kind of like how I decide who does or doesn't enter my house.

That's how life works so quit whining.  You're not entitled to EA's stuff.

Steam deserves a little competition anyways.  It will make them better.

PC gamers should be happy by this news.  This gives them another line they can add to their long list of excuses for pir...errr I mean fighting the digital revolution of the 21st century!

Modifié par Turnip Root, 07 juillet 2011 - 03:01 .

[Cutlass Jack]

Computer_God91 wrote...

EA can kiss my ass. I'm not making an Origin account, if they don't want to sell me their games through steam then I'll buy them physically from Gamestop. I. Will. Never. sign up for Origin.

I hate to break this to you, but you've already made an Origin account. The Bioware account you currently use will become an Origin one very soon.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 07 juillet 2011 - 03:31 .

[Pious_Augustus]

Basically EA wants to be able to spam it's Steam user base. Downloading or buying anything directly from the EA PC Store is a waste of money. Eventually you will be unable to redownload the same game or have to buy insurance to redownload for a certain period of time to where as Steam you can delete and redownload as you please.

Also most of the annoying DRM in the Steam addition is removed

Only good thing EA has ever done in my eyes was when they they partnered with Squaresoft to become Square Electric Arts and brought Xenogears to North America when the Japanese felt such a game must stay in Japan but EA made sure such a great game came to our shores.

Good move

Modifié par Pious_Augustus, 07 juillet 2011 - 04:04 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Computer_God91 wrote...

EA can kiss my ass. I'm not making an Origin account, if they don't want to sell me their games through steam then I'll buy them physically from Gamestop. I. Will. Never. sign up for Origin.

Have fun killing the industry.

[Pious_Augustus]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

EA can kiss my ass. I'm not making an Origin account, if they don't want to sell me their games through steam then I'll buy them physically from Gamestop. I. Will. Never. sign up for Origin.

Have fun killing the industry.

I hate shopping at Gamestop I prefer to use Steam when I can because its an amazing service and I thought it was garbage before I tried it. Services like Orgin (Ea Store) force people to buy elsewhere or not at all.

The Old Republic as of now is an Orgin exculsive I recommed everyone write to LucasArts to let them know what you think of EA's service hopefully we can get them to change this.

[Brockololly]

*sigh*

To ensure this, any retailer can sell our games, but we take direct responsibility for providing patches, updates, additional content and other services to our players. You are connecting to our servers, and we want to establish on ongoing relationship with you, to continue to give you the best possible gaming experience

In other words, "We want your personal info and email addresses so we can spam your inbox and release bloated press releases saying how we have a zillion Origin users that we just leeched off of Valve!" Or how you're forced to use EA servers resulting in stuff like the clusterfluck of DLC authorization crap for DA:O and ME2.

Sorry EA, but among PC gamers I think Valve has slightly more street cred and built up good will than you do. Steam and Valve does have issues but don't try and make it out like EA is the little guy fighting the good fight for PC gamers.

[Zjarcal]

Seagloom wrote...

I'm not buying David DeMartini's explanation, but it's hardly a surprise EA's head of global e-commerce would try to put a positive spin on it. That said, it doesn't matter to me. Steam is a sales juggernaut. I don't feel pity for them missing out on a few exclusive games.

It's not about feeling pity for Steam, it's about the hassle that it will be buying EA games for us from now on! Well, at least digitally.

[hoorayforicecream]

I don't really feel bad for EA not wanting to pay another publisher a hefty chunk of their revenue when they can do it themselves.

[Zjarcal]

Of course, it's a good business move for them and I don't blame them for wanting to get a higher revenue. But as a consumer, I do find it annoying, especially since I'm not convinced by their Origin platform.

[Jiggasaurus]

The removal of games from other digital distributors was not wise. I have no problem with EA wanting to undergo their own digital distributor foundation (Origin). Steam have almost monopolised the PC side of downloading games, so any competition is healthy, yet the situation with Crysis 2 is dodgy to say the least. As long as there is a way for the Steam version of games, paid for already by unknowing fans, to gain access to updates & patches I don’t see a big problem, if they neglect to do this it’ll be another black mark on EA from the gaming community, they don’t need any more of them right now, to say the least.

[rwscissors702]

Interesting, doesn't make a difference to me though. I like Steam and will continue to use it, if EA isn't there it's their loss not mine.

[LiquidGrape]

I can't see Origin ending up anything but a massive failure. Steam has got an eight years head start in every possible area, not to mention the vast amounts of goodwill it has accumulated since its launch.
- With good reason, mind you. I have it on good authority that Valve is very good to independent developers, which I would argue is quite noteworthy considering the brutal industrial clime of the medium.

DeMartini's explanation for EA's withdrawal is wholly ridiculous considering Steam patches are specifically optimised for the platform, and any developer is free to create dedicated accounts for costumer feedback on the support forums.

In a nutshell, Steam already provide the services DeMartini claims will separate Origin from its competition.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 07 juillet 2011 - 06:26 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Brockololly wrote...

*sigh*

To ensure this, any retailer can sell our games, but we take direct responsibility for providing patches, updates, additional content and other services to our players. You are connecting to our servers, and we want to establish on ongoing relationship with you, to continue to give you the best possible gaming experience

In other words, "We want your personal info and email addresses so we can spam your inbox and release bloated press releases saying how we have a zillion Origin users that we just leeched off of Valve!" Or how you're forced to use EA servers resulting in stuff like the clusterfluck of DLC authorization crap for DA:O and ME2.

Sorry EA, but among PC gamers I think Valve has slightly more street cred and built up good will than you do. Steam and Valve does have issues but don't try and make it out like EA is the little guy fighting the good fight for PC gamers.

Agreed, Brock. I think Origin is intended to be a DRM. It's packaged with other features to make it look good. It feels like their new policy to add MP components to all their games is intended to counter arguments like there is no need for an internet connection in a SP game. It's just EA's version of Ubisofts online DRM. Nothing more, nothing less. I stopped buying Ubisoft titles for a while now. I think ME3 may be the last EA title I'll buy. I am not sure even sure if I want to buy DA3. Stuff like this is driving me away from EA.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 07 juillet 2011 - 06:29 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Oops. Double post.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 07 juillet 2011 - 06:29 .

[sympathy4saren]

Good. Maybe Valve will say screw Crysis 2 and announce Half-Life 3, which will most likely be more superior in every aspect to the Crysis franchise, including graphically.

[akayasha]

Hmmm.. I'm not 100% sure about the relationship thing. I know that Steam does try to patch their games ASAP (even if it's not their's), so I'm not exactly sure what EA was talking about in their article. For the other things like downloadable content, I have seen DLC on Steam, it probably would not be too hard to put Bioware or EA dlc up there. I never really noticed a "direct connection" between the developers (EA in this case) and me or us (the gamers). I guess if EA is just trying to increase revenue through Origin, I can't blame them. scyphozoa was right, I haven't seen a Valve game available digitally in any other place other than Steam (or any Blizzard game other than Blizzard's site) So, I guess this is EA's move. Other than that, I still think it's pretty annoying that we would have to go to Origins to purchase Crysis 2 and other games. I prefer to have all if not most of my games digitally on one digital distributor. I don't really mind, but Steam was out there for a while so that's where I have most of my digital games =).