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[OdanUrr]

VolusvsReaper wrote...

(...) they never stay true to anything when it comes to video games into movies.

The problem is that what works in a video game doesn't necessarily work in a movie. The same applies when you turn a comic into a movie. Some things work, some things don't. What you need to do is stay true to the core of the game/comic while telling the story you want to tell. It worked for Nolan's Batman, it worked for Favreau's Iron Man.

[VolusvsReaper]

OdanUrr wrote...

VolusvsReaper wrote...

(...) they never stay true to anything when it comes to video games into movies.

The problem is that what works in a video game doesn't necessarily work in a movie. The same applies when you turn a comic into a movie. Some things work, some things don't. What you need to do is stay true to the core of the game/comic while telling the story you want to tell. It worked for Nolan's Batman, it worked for Favreau's Iron Man.

Iron Man doesn't have nearly as many angles, plot twists, and other things that the ME universe has lol.

[mulder1199]

[The problem is that what works in a video game doesn't necessarily work in a movie. The same applies when you turn a comic into a movie. Some things work, some things don't. What you need to do is stay true to the core of the game/comic while telling the story you want to tell. It worked for Nolan's Batman, it worked for Favreau's Iron Man.
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Iron Man doesn't have nearly as many angles, plot twists, and other things that the ME universe has lol.

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me 1 as a movie, they basically stick to becoming a spectre, rescue liara, noveria, virmire and zhus hope and then taking down saren and soverign.....

that's the trade off, the storyline has to be finite, i'm good with those as the make up of the story.....

[Rip504]

I personally can not wait to see what information they give us.
I like the idea of a ME movie,no matter the setting. I am personally excited about this.

Mass Effect is truly an amazing epic Title and should be shared with as many people as possible. The movie is just another avenue to accomplish this. I agree with this 100%

[mulder1199]

Rip504 wrote...

I personally can not wait to see what information they give us.
I like the idea of a ME movie,no matter the setting. I am personally excited about this.

Mass Effect is truly an amazing epic Title and should be shared with as many people as possible. The movie is just another avenue to accomplish this. I agree with this 100%

IMO, to make sure it's a hit, they need that connection to the games....already mentioned having the first contact war center around anderson, perhaps ash's grandfather, etc....or doing it based on the revelation novel

[schnydz]

Well Destructoid as a post pointing to an article on comingsoon.net

Which claims that Thomas Tull and Jon Jashni will be producing the film alongside with Ari Arad. If you check out their stats on imdb you'll see they have some great stuff under their collective belts. I for one am not worried at how this will turn out. Exciting times ahead!!

Modifié par schnydz, 07 juillet 2011 - 08:14 .

[Robbiesan]

E-MailA.K.A.Mr.Fox wrote...

People need to relax, you either watch the movie or you don't, that simple.

Word!!

[ArkkAngel007]

E-MailA.K.A.Mr.Fox wrote...

People need to relax, you either watch the movie or you don't, that simple.

So true.  Fans can get pretty over protective over what they follow.  Its one thing to be worried about who directs, acts, etc in the film.  It's another to start quarreling over what should be in the plot...or quarreling at all.  Everyone has a different view of what they want in the film.  Some would enjoy a condensed retelling of the Eden Prime War, while others want it to be completely original and be tied only by the lore.  But people forget its not just us who are going to see this if it gets out of pre-production.  There will be millions across the world who will be introduced to this, and they need to be kept in mind too.

[Drone223]

Bioware must be careful about the movie is about because make the movie about Shepard people will think what happens in the movie is canon (there is no canon Shepard) and a lot of hardcore ME fans will be NOT happy about most likely his portrayl and plot at certain points can be predictable, If the movie has no Shepard in it canon is speard and most ME fans would be satisfied but the general public will not understand the plot, Bioware put them selves between a Rock and a hardplace about what the movie will be about

[ThanesSniper]

Omg, I saw Guillermo del Toro's name mentioned and I was immediately hopeful and excited. But it was for a different movie. Perhaps they'll have a big name director for the Mass Effect movie too. I think it should go a different route than the games, and not focus on the present series. Focus on the First Contact War or something. Maybe a cameo of baby Shepard. But watching him gather a team and invade the Collector's would be boring.

[Massadonious1]

Copy/pasted from the thread in the announcement section, I figured it would be better here with this thread revived.

For all the talk about "canon" and whatnot, this movie still has to be marketable to the general public. In fact, I'd say they need to market this to them, more than us. We already have a foot in the door in regards to interest in this universe. They don't. And I'm not sure if something like the First Contact War has that same kind of marketing appeal.

If you do a general Google search for "Mass Effect", you get links talking about the game. (Shepard's story) If you do a general Google image search for "Mass Effect", you mostly see Shepard and crew, ME1 and ME2 box art, and things of that nature. In fact, the only Turians you see within the first few pages or so are Garrus and Saren. Now, the average user watches trailers and sees other media of Turians and Humans fighting in this conflict that has nothing to do with their preconceived notions about what the Mass Effect universe is all about. Do you really think these people are going to bother to look up what this conflict was really about? This is the same demographic that somehow made the Transformers movies popular. I'm not saying that as a slight, just that some people are more visceral than others. Not to mention, since this movie will be coming out after ME3's release, the scope of such a conflict simply pales in comparisons to gigantic Chuthlu machines wreaking havoc on our home planet.

I'm not even sure that I would personally watch a Mass Effect movie about the First Contact War, because honestly, it's a period in ME's history that doesn't really interest me that much.

If they can garner enough interest and make it look more than just generic sci-fi, then more power to them. However, I would imagine that Legendary partnered with BioWare so that it could be a profitable movie franchise for both groups.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 08 juillet 2011 - 05:29 .

[mulder1199]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Copy/pasted from the thread in the announcement section, I figured it would be better here with this thread revived.

For all the talk about "canon" and whatnot, this movie still has to be marketable to the general public. In fact, I'd say they need to market this to them, more than us. We already have a foot in the door in regards to interest in this universe. They don't. And I'm not sure if something like the First Contact War has that same kind of marketing appeal.

simply pales in comparisons to gigantic Chuthlu machines wreaking havoc on our home planet.

I'm not even sure that I would personally watch a Mass Effect movie about the First Contact War, because honestly, it's a period in ME's history that doesn't really interest me that much.

If they can garner enough interest and make it look more than just generic sci-fi, then more power to them. However, I would imagine that Legendary partnered with BioWare so that it could be a profitable movie franchise for both groups.

It'll draw harcore fans that's for sure....the first contact war doesn't interest me, but i'd see it anyways, especially if it follows most of anderson's doings in it.....it's a good jump off point....like i said, it would be almost like anything else today, they aren't making it to just make one....they'd lead into revelation and or ME1....

if legendary/avi puts the right trailer together and attach it to a movie that they know alot of people will be seeing (dark knight rises, the man of steel, the hobbit) they are bound to garner enough interest....

oh, and to those telling everybody to 'settle down'....i must have missed where people are getting worked up....it's just something to debate about and put your opinions out there as to what you would like to see, you calm down!!!! ; )

[Luigitornado]

OdanUrr wrote...

VolusvsReaper wrote...

(...) they never stay true to anything when it comes to video games into movies.

The problem is that what works in a video game doesn't necessarily work in a movie. The same applies when you turn a comic into a movie. Some things work, some things don't. What you need to do is stay true to the core of the game/comic while telling the story you want to tell. It worked for Nolan's Batman, it worked for Favreau's Iron Man.

You also can't forget that it might be easier to transistion comics to the big screen rather than video games. Comic books are decades older then games, and video games have only recently (last 10 years) have started to become more narrative/cinematically focused than in the past. 

I have yet to see a good video game movie because the source material -- it is simply not there, which means directors or scrpit writers believe they have more free rain over the source material. We almost saw this with the Uncharted movie when that dumb ass director wanted to turn it into another Mummy-like franchise. 



Or instead we get scripts that are almost too familar to the original story, but lose elements of the original story that made it charming are lost: Sands of Time. 

What we need is for Hollywood to take video game seriously, and to study the source matieral and their original target audience to understand what makes them so succesful and how to make the transistion to big screen. This simply doesn't mean *insert large explosion.* 

Some fans, like myself, wonder if video games are getting to the point if they need to be made into movies. I might salivtate over the idea of seeing Link thrust the mastersword into Gannondorf's skull on the big screen, but I cringe over who will be playing Link.

[mulder1199]

[quote]Luigitornado wrote...

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(...) they never stay true to anything when it comes to video games into movies.[/quote]

The problem is that what works in a video game doesn't necessarily work in a movie. The same applies when you turn a comic into a movie. Some things work, some things don't. What you need to do is stay true to the core of the game/comic while telling the story you want to tell. It worked for Nolan's Batman, it worked for Favreau's Iron Man.
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You also can't forget that it might be easier to transistion comics to the big screen rather than video games. Comic books are decades older then games, and video games have only recently (last 10 years) have started to become more narrative/cinematically focused than in the past. 

I have yet to see a good video game movie because the source material -- it is simply not there, which means directors or scrpit writers believe they have more free rain over the source material. We almost saw this with the Uncharted movie when that dumb ass director wanted to turn it into another Mummy-like franchise. 



Or instead we get scripts that are almost too familar to the original story, but lose elements of the original story that made it charming are lost: Sands of Time. 

What we need is for Hollywood to take video game seriously, and to study the source matieral and their original target audience to understand what makes them so succesful and how to make the transistion to big screen. This simply doesn't mean *insert large explosion.* 

Some fans, like myself, wonder if video games are getting to the point if they need to be made into movies. I might salivtate over the idea of seeing Link thrust the mastersword into Gannondorf's skull on the big screen, but I cringe over who will be playing Link.
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agreed, which is why i the popular opinion is they'll focus on the first contact war....it's an era where they don't have to worry about video game matching/cannon, they can tell what ever as it really hasn't been touched upon, even in the revelation novel...

[ArkkAngel007]

Drone223 wrote...

Bioware must be careful about the movie is about because make the movie about Shepard people will think what happens in the movie is canon (there is no canon Shepard) and a lot of hardcore ME fans will be NOT happy about most likely his portrayl and plot at certain points can be predictable, If the movie has no Shepard in it canon is speard and most ME fans would be satisfied but the general public will not understand the plot, Bioware put them selves between a Rock and a hardplace about what the movie will be about

The movie does not need Shepard for the general public to understand the plot, as the general public has no idea who Shepard is.

Look at the Resident Evil films.  They are terrible, but they are very popular.  The first film had none of the characters from the game, while the rest  barely had them advertised by name and in film they were nothing like their game counterparts.

And Legendary Pictures won't care who will get upset with an "official" portrayal of Shepard.  If Shepard is in there, it will be the Shepard that does what is best for the movie.  We have no say and I'm rather uncomfortable with a lot of people believing the public can't have their own Shepard.

I would figure that instead of debating the "right" Shepard, fans would want to discuss HOW this universe will be established for the public to best understand the universe.  

[mulder1199]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Drone223 wrote...

Bioware must be careful about the movie is about because make the movie about Shepard people will think what happens in the movie is canon (there is no canon Shepard) and a lot of hardcore ME fans will be NOT happy about most likely his portrayl and plot at certain points can be predictable, If the movie has no Shepard in it canon is speard and most ME fans would be satisfied but the general public will not understand the plot, Bioware put them selves between a Rock and a hardplace about what the movie will be about

The movie does not need Shepard for the general public to understand the plot, as the general public has no idea who Shepard is.

Look at the Resident Evil films.  They are terrible, but they are very popular.  The first film had none of the characters from the game, while the rest  barely had them advertised by name and in film they were nothing like their game counterparts.

And Legendary Pictures won't care who will get upset with an "official" portrayal of Shepard.  If Shepard is in there, it will be the Shepard that does what is best for the movie.  We have no say and I'm rather uncomfortable with a lot of people believing the public can't have their own Shepard.

I would figure that instead of debating the "right" Shepard, fans would want to discuss HOW this universe will be established for the public to best understand the universe.  

that's why i'd asume they start with something they can establish on their own, such as the events of the FCW then if that movie is successful they'll move on....with the way making movies goes, shep wouldn't be introuduced for 5 or so more years, so....hopefully enough time would have passed that *most* people would be happy just to see it, rather than kavetch that it isn't their shep, or 'x' is now cannon

[ArkkAngel007]

mulder1199 wrote

that's why i'd asume they start with something they can establish on their own, such as the events of the FCW then if that movie is successful they'll move on....with the way making movies goes, shep wouldn't be introuduced for 5 or so more years, so....hopefully enough time would have passed that *most* people would be happy just to see it, rather than kavetch that it isn't their shep, or 'x' is now cannon

The problem with a good number of folks on here, in which it is their opinion and there isn't anything wrong with it, that to them the FCW was only a month long event with only two substantial fights.  Also, they feel the stakes aren't high enough to make an interesting film.  Final argument is that there probably won't be a single hero/savior type for the film to focus on.

But here is where they don't understand.  They know all about this universe to its current state.  They know about Mars, the FCW, the Rachni Wars, and all of these other huge events.  They know about mass effect fields, eezo, biotics, and the difference between an A.I. and V.I.  What fans need to understand is that the general public WON'T know any of this.  Trying to explain many of things along a story that needs its own explanations (Protheans, Reapers, Spectres, Geth & Quarians, Asari abilities, etc) just leads to long monologues and confuses the audience from what the current situation is.  You can't ignore those topics either as they are important to the universe and in Shepard's journey.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 08 juillet 2011 - 03:07 .

[mulder1199]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

mulder1199 wrote

that's why i'd asume they start with something they can establish on their own, such as the events of the FCW then if that movie is successful they'll move on....with the way making movies goes, shep wouldn't be introuduced for 5 or so more years, so....hopefully enough time would have passed that *most* people would be happy just to see it, rather than kavetch that it isn't their shep, or 'x' is now cannon

The problem with a good number of folks on here, in which it is their opinion and there isn't anything wrong with it, that to them the FCW was only a month long event with only two substantial fights.  Also, they feel the stakes aren't high enough to make an interesting film.  Final argument is that there probably won't be a single hero/savior type for the film to focus on.

But here is where they don't understand.  They know all about this universe to its current state.  They know about Mars, the FCW, the Rachni Wars, and all of these other huge events.  They know about mass effect fields, eezo, biotics, and the difference between an A.I. and V.I.  What fans need to understand is that the general public WON'T know any of this.  Trying to explain many of things along a story that needs its own explanations (Protheans, Reapers, Spectres, Geth & Quarians, Asari abilities, etc) just leads to long monologues and confuses the audience from what the current situation is.  You can't ignore those topics either as they are important to the universe and in Shepard's journey.

good thing the writers will be working with hudson, they'll have considerable work to do so that catching people up to speed doesn't make for an extremely slow movie....
there is anderson, he played a major role in the first contact war according to revelation....

Modifié par mulder1199, 08 juillet 2011 - 08:04 .

[Had-to-say]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Copy/pasted from the thread in the announcement section, I figured it would be better here with this thread revived.

For all the talk about "canon" and whatnot, this movie still has to be marketable to the general public. In fact, I'd say they need to market this to them, more than us. We already have a foot in the door in regards to interest in this universe. They don't. And I'm not sure if something like the First Contact War has that same kind of marketing appeal.

If you do a general Google search for "Mass Effect", you get links talking about the game. (Shepard's story) If you do a general Google image search for "Mass Effect", you mostly see Shepard and crew, ME1 and ME2 box art, and things of that nature. In fact, the only Turians you see within the first few pages or so are Garrus and Saren. Now, the average user watches trailers and sees other media of Turians and Humans fighting in this conflict that has nothing to do with their preconceived notions about what the Mass Effect universe is all about. Do you really think these people are going to bother to look up what this conflict was really about? This is the same demographic that somehow made the Transformers movies popular. I'm not saying that as a slight, just that some people are more visceral than others. Not to mention, since this movie will be coming out after ME3's release, the scope of such a conflict simply pales in comparisons to gigantic Chuthlu machines wreaking havoc on our home planet.

I'm not even sure that I would personally watch a Mass Effect movie about the First Contact War, because honestly, it's a period in ME's history that doesn't really interest me that much.

If they can garner enough interest and make it look more than just generic sci-fi, then more power to them. However, I would imagine that Legendary partnered with BioWare so that it could be a profitable movie franchise for both groups.

I think you raise a good point. The film needs to make a favorable first impression. Truth is we don't know everything about The First Contact War it would need to be fleshed out. Diplomacy can be entertaining it might not satisfy everyone with lots of dialogue but I am sure they will offer some action. 

I hope that one day humanity makes contact with an E.T. civilization. I feel that I may be dead before this happens. I would love to be a fly on the wall to see how humanity responds to this amazing realization. It would make for one hell of a movie. The key is to cast interesting people. 
 
Space is a character, she is cold deadly and beautiful. She alone if presented correctly will have a starring role.
I would hope that the film can be a stand alone movie that works. In a movie like this quality visual production is king, it will make or break the film.
 
I like your question. Where is the best place to start  telling the story?

[Rattlehead424]

NOOOOOOOO i mean id love a movie but Game movies blow i mean did anyone see DOOM ? How easy of a story is that and they **** it up .

[etonesmith1]

Commander Shepard is to be played by The Rock!

[Had-to-say]

luk4s3d wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

that's what revelation is.... a good tie in, close enough for ME fans to care to see it, and can lead into more movies with shep, again, with enough time passed so that the cannon argument isn't even worth talking about, except for the nerdiest of nerds....

Now... who would you cast as a young Anderson?

Idris Elba!

Joey Ansah

[IdRatherBeSleeping]

I think as long as they stay out of the main story line that we have all played it has potential. We all have our own personal experiences with that story, and seeing a film that might change how we look at our characters is very unappealing to me in particular.

[mulder1199]

Had-to-say wrote...

luk4s3d wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

that's what revelation is.... a good tie in, close enough for ME fans to care to see it, and can lead into more movies with shep, again, with enough time passed so that the cannon argument isn't even worth talking about, except for the nerdiest of nerds....

Now... who would you cast as a young Anderson?

Idris Elba!

Joey Ansah

i was thinking the other day, mekhi pheifer wouldn't be a horrible choice either...