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do you think the mattock should be nerfed whilst under adrenaline rush?


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#26
goofyomnivore

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The Mattock ignoring time dilation makes it pretty absurd, and combine that with the fire as fast as you can pull the trigger it gets ridiculous.

However the DLC weapons are intended to be overpowered. I don't really support nerfing stuff on single player games. Since you can make your own house rules and not use a certain power/weapon.

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It's like the World of Warcraft forums all over again.

"THIS IS TOO POWERFUL, NERF IT!"

"THIS IS TOO WEAK, BUFF IT!"

No one's forcing you to use the Mattock. It's great disadvantage as opposed to the other ARs is that it has a ridiculously low ammo capacity. If you reduce the damage done or the accuracy, it becomes useless.

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dujh wrote...

Leoism wrote...

I think you need to wait and see i'm sure they will be going over all the weapons anyhow and they will make adjustments if they deem it necessary. Let the "Professionals" do their jobs ;D

and feed back from the people who play their games help them do their jobs


Not when you're stating the obvious. Everyone know's the Mattock was too strong made all other weapons useless except for the heavy's. 

-edit- And just so you know i wasen't having a go at anyone in the first post i was just stating my opinion the guys over at Bioware know what's what. Like what "Strive" said, they make DLC weapons more powerful deliberatly, what would be the point in downloading them otherwise? It's all about money making ;)

Modifié par Leoism, 07 juillet 2011 - 12:55 .


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Arcian wrote...

It's like the World of Warcraft forums all over again.

"THIS IS TOO POWERFUL, NERF IT!"

"THIS IS TOO WEAK, BUFF IT!"

No one's forcing you to use the Mattock. It's great disadvantage as opposed to the other ARs is that it has a ridiculously low ammo capacity. If you reduce the damage done or the accuracy, it becomes useless.


I totally agree It's why i quit WoW After killing LK 25 - Did the main "Story" so to speak and was happy :). But i do also agree the weapon is too good when you remove all other main weapons just for the mattock and use no other except the obvious heavy weapons from time to time :P.

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Still think it is absurd to talk about "balance" in an SP only game...

If you think it is to powerfull just don't use it...

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Arcian wrote...

It's like the World of Warcraft forums all over again.

"THIS IS TOO POWERFUL, NERF IT!"

"THIS IS TOO WEAK, BUFF IT!"

No one's forcing you to use the Mattock. It's great disadvantage as opposed to the other ARs is that it has a ridiculously low ammo capacity. If you reduce the damage done or the accuracy, it becomes useless.

More like:

"Omg wtf soldier is so op and vanguard charge is imba, nerf nerf nerf. Also, adepts are for n00bs. 3ng1n33rs for life! I will now continue whining, however."

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Arcian wrote...

It's like the World of Warcraft forums all over again.

"THIS IS TOO POWERFUL, NERF IT!"

"THIS IS TOO WEAK, BUFF IT!"

No one's forcing you to use the Mattock. It's great disadvantage as opposed to the other ARs is that it has a ridiculously low ammo capacity. If you reduce the damage done or the accuracy, it becomes useless.

THE AVENGER'S TO WEK, BUFF IT!Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB

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It's nice to have a good balance to a game, 1 weapon shouldn't rule them all ;D

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Give it a smaller ammo capacity than it already has got, if you really want to nerf it.

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Phaedon wrote...

Arcian wrote...

It's like the World of Warcraft forums all over again.

"THIS IS TOO POWERFUL, NERF IT!"

"THIS IS TOO WEAK, BUFF IT!"

No one's forcing you to use the Mattock. It's great disadvantage as opposed to the other ARs is that it has a ridiculously low ammo capacity. If you reduce the damage done or the accuracy, it becomes useless.

More like:

"Omg wtf soldier is so op and vanguard charge is imba, nerf nerf nerf. Also, adepts are for n00bs. 3ng1n33rs for life! I will now continue whining, however."

"I WILL CANCEL MY PREORDER IF THIS DOESN'T CHANGE."

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Leoism

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Or you can buff other weapons with bit more dmg or accuracy, sounds more fair considering the insanely low ammo capacity it already has would make it almost useless as you'll be constantly running out of ammo mid fights.

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TheOtherTheoG wrote...

Give it a smaller ammo capacity than it already has got, if you really want to nerf it.

i hope they do something like that especially since all classes can get it in me3

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Leoism wrote...

Or you can buff other weapons with bit more dmg or accuracy, sounds more fair considering the insanely low ammo capacity it already has would make it almost useless as you'll be constantly running out of ammo mid fights.

that's a good thing as it would force you to use your other weapons an or powers to get through tough fights instead of just using the one gun

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Phaedon wrote...

Arcian wrote...

It's like the World of Warcraft forums all over again.

"THIS IS TOO POWERFUL, NERF IT!"

"THIS IS TOO WEAK, BUFF IT!"

No one's forcing you to use the Mattock. It's great disadvantage as opposed to the other ARs is that it has a ridiculously low ammo capacity. If you reduce the damage done or the accuracy, it becomes useless.

More like:

"Omg wtf soldier is so op and vanguard charge is imba, nerf nerf nerf. Also, adepts are for n00bs. 3ng1n33rs for life! I will now continue whining, however."



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dujh

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Arcian wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Arcian wrote...

It's like the World of Warcraft forums all over again.

"THIS IS TOO POWERFUL, NERF IT!"

"THIS IS TOO WEAK, BUFF IT!"

No one's forcing you to use the Mattock. It's great disadvantage as opposed to the other ARs is that it has a ridiculously low ammo capacity. If you reduce the damage done or the accuracy, it becomes useless.

More like:

"Omg wtf soldier is so op and vanguard charge is imba, nerf nerf nerf. Also, adepts are for n00bs. 3ng1n33rs for life! I will now continue whining, however."

"I WILL CANCEL MY PREORDER IF THIS DOESN'T CHANGE."

no matter what they do there is no way i'll be canceling my n7 preorder, they can take it when they pry it from my cold dead handsImage IPB

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Absolutely yes.

I love semi-automatic assault rifles and it really annoys how much Mattock is overpowered.
Nerf it, or add another semi-automatic AR that is not.

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Nothing could stop me getting mass effect collectors edition. I have CE's of 1+2 need 3 to complete my trilogy and i'll be a happy camper :).

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Arcian wrote...

"I WILL CANCEL MY PREORDER IF THIS DOESN'T CHANGE."

That's right, BioWare,

I am not renewing by subscription either!

I mean, pre-order.



Damn it, I blew it, didn't I?

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of course it should be nerfed. who say otherwise is an idiot or a noob...

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budzai wrote...

of course it should be nerfed. who say otherwise is an idiot or a noob...


No you!

(same kind of argument..)

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The Vindicator is better. It just needs a overhaul to make it work with thermal clips. it just uses too many thermal clips per shot

EDIT:  No, don't nerf guns nerf nerfing  Image IPB

Modifié par comrade8472, 07 juillet 2011 - 01:27 .


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Nerfing in a single player game? Just no.

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budzai wrote...

of course it should be nerfed. who say otherwise is an idiot or a noob...


Wow, how insightful of you that I'm an "idiot noob" since I don't agree about nerfing the Mattock...<_<

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ErichHartmann wrote...

Nerfing in a single player game? Just no.

i dont mean a patch for me2 i mean make it weaker in me3

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ErichHartmann wrote...

Nerfing in a single player game? Just no.


Saying that, it seems like don't understand "nerfing" or "balance" mean, or why they exist, if you say that. It has nothing to do with multiplayer. It has everything to do with making a fun game.

If the M-920 Cain had infinite ammo, or only cost 1 ammo/shot or something, that would make ME2 a worse game, even though it's single-player. That's an extreme example, but the Mattock is similar. It's ridiculously more powerful than the other ARs for any class. That makes for a bad game, because there's one "real" AR choice and the rest are all "fake", "noob" or "roleplaying" choices, effectively.

If you don't like the idea of it being "nerfed", then two things need to be done:

1) Other ARs need their damage increased and shot-grouping tightened so that they're more comparable to it. Some also need larger clip sizes, because the Mattock actually has a very good clip size/damage ratio - better than most ARs. One way or another, it needs to be in-line. So you can "buff" the other ARs.

2) The bug that means that makes the Mattock OP in Adrenaline Rush needs to be fixed.

This would make for a better game.