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[SandTrout]

This is a single player game. You are not competing directly with anyone else. If you thing a weapon is weak/overpowered, you have the option of modding your game without interfering with anyone else.

If you are calling for a nerf of anything in a single player game because of balance issues, you are stupid.

There, I said it. Any thread calling for the nerf of a class/weapon in a single-player game is stupidity.

[CaptainZaysh]

I hear what you're saying, Trout, but I actually would prefer it if the weapons were balanced better. Mass Effect could actually learn something from COD in this respect. There are differences between an AK or an M16, but one's not better than the other in all situations.

[SandTrout]

COD is also a Mutli-player game. Calling for balance in multi-player is fine, and asking that a weapon be useful in single-player is fine as well. Calling for nerfs of popular weapons in single player is stupid.

Edit: Also, the Mattock is not more usefull in every situation for ever class. People are complaining that it is more effective in a soldier's hands than other classes.

Modifié par SandTrout, 07 juillet 2011 - 02:29 .

[CaptainZaysh]

Maybe everything else needs to be buffed, then. If the Mattock handles like the COD M14, the Avenger should handle like the COD AK-47.

Right now the Mattock is the COD M14, and the Avenger is like a stupid pointless pop gun.

[Leoism]

I must be honest, If the Mattock wasn't available there would only be one other gun i would use, That would instantly be the Vindicator Battle Rifle pre Mattock it was by far the best M16 style burst fire, Loved it completely... But the mattock just makes it look average

[CaptainZaysh]

All the weapons would be better if they handled like their COD equivalents.
Mattock - M14
Avenger - AK47
Vindicator - M16
Revenant - M249

Shuriken - Raffica
Tempest - Uzi
Locust - P90

Katana - M1014
Scimitar - SPAS-12

Etc. Then it might be fun to take out something that wasn't the Mattock from time to time.

[CroGamer002]

^What about Phalanx?

That pistol is pretty balanced.
Also Avenger is pretty good.

[Shad0wOGRE]

No. If you think it's over powered DON'T USE IT.

This isn't a damn multiplayer game.

[Gterror]

Mesina2 wrote...

^What about Phalanx?

That pistol is pretty balanced.
Also Avenger is pretty good.

Phalanx is pretty good, but i dont like laser sight on it, maybe because im so used to crosshairs in shooting games.

Modifié par Gterror, 07 juillet 2011 - 03:27 .

[Juha81FIN]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

All the weapons would be better if they handled like their COD equivalents.
Mattock - M14
Avenger - AK47
Vindicator - M16
Revenant - M249

Shuriken - Raffica
Tempest - Uzi
Locust - P90

Katana - M1014
Scimitar - SPAS-12

Etc. Then it might be fun to take out something that wasn't the Mattock from time to time.

ME has nothing to do with COD.

[Parion]

Tut tut people. Everyone knows the real reason to use the Mattock is the meaty firing sound.

Otherwise the geth rifle all the way, because it's just so stylish.

[vimpel_zocom]

we need weapon variety

[Praetor Knight]

strive wrote...

The Mattock ignoring time dilation makes it pretty absurd, and combine that with the fire as fast as you can pull the trigger it gets ridiculous.

This seems like the only aspect of the Mattock that needs to be tweaked. Having it function similar to the Viper or Predator in Adrenaline Rush is all the Mattock really needs, IMHO.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 07 juillet 2011 - 04:08 .

[BlackwindTheCommander]

nhsk wrote...

Still think it is absurd to talk about "balance" in an SP only game...

If you think it is to powerfull just don't use it...

This, I'm so glad someone mentioned this!

I can understand requesting a nerf if the gun gave you an advantage over another PLAYER, but to ask it from a single player game is kind of rediculous. 

The reason a developer, such as Blizzard, nerf or buff something is because it gives a player a major advantage, or disadvantage, to the player in a multiplayer setting. If one thing works too well that it out shadows everything else, it becames unfair to the others playing, so it needs a nerf.

However, theres no one else playing against you in a SINGLEplayer setting. Whos going to complain it unfair, the Vorcha Work Unions?

[konfeta]

If you are calling for a nerf of anything in a single player game because of balance issues, you are stupid.

There, I said it. Any thread calling for the nerf of a class/weapon in a single-player game is stupidity.

Or, we are calling for balance in a single-player game because we don't like things that are too weak to be fun to use, to strong to be fun to use, and because we shouldn't be forced to do clean up on developers' mistakes.

Also, consider that this isn't a PC only game. But, then again, judging by your trigger happy willingness to pull the intelligence card on the internet, you would drag this into a platform war, so don't.

[CaptainZaysh]

Juha81FIN wrote...

ME has nothing to do with COD.

Thanks for your important contribution, Juha.

[CaptainZaysh]

BlackwindTheCommander wrote...

nhsk wrote...

Still think it is absurd to talk about "balance" in an SP only game...

If you think it is to powerfull just don't use it...

This, I'm so glad someone mentioned this!

I can understand requesting a nerf if the gun gave you an advantage over another PLAYER, but to ask it from a single player game is kind of rediculous. 

The reason a developer, such as Blizzard, nerf or buff something is because it gives a player a major advantage, or disadvantage, to the player in a multiplayer setting. If one thing works too well that it out shadows everything else, it becames unfair to the others playing, so it needs a nerf.

However, theres no one else playing against you in a SINGLEplayer setting. Whos going to complain it unfair, the Vorcha Work Unions?

ARGH.  Way to push my buttons there.  There is no "e" in "ridiculous".

Anyway, the point isn't balance against the computer, the point is fun.  If one weapon is better than all the others, the game is encouraging you to use that weapon exclusively.

If all weapons are different but not better than the others - as in COD - the game encourages variety.  Variety makes the game more fun and more replayable.

[lazuli]

Reapinger wrote...

Also the vanguard with the claymore was awful. One shot + reload on insanity = dead. 

lol

[crimzontearz]

no I'm good with the Mattock

made my vanguard increidbly versatile longside the GPS

[SpEcIaLRyAn]

I like the Mattock but I still prefer the Vindicator. Just feels more natural to me using the Vindicator than the Mattock. I think its funny though that everyone can shoot it automatically in cut scenes but I can't. Always kinda made me laugh every time on Zaeed's loyalty mission I see him shooting it automatically.

[Jenetic]

For the life of me, I just don't get this.  There are some of us that like the Mattock the way it is.  This is a single player game so if you think a weapon is so powerful that it keeps the game from being fun then just don't use it or use it sparingly as a situational weapon.   And if you don't have the discipline to withstand using the weapon....well, then you have bigger issues. 

Also, if you have ever shot an AR-15, M4, or M16, the semi-automatic setting is preferable in most situations because it is more accurate, you can control your shots, and if you need to, you can fire the weapon "as fast as you can pull the trigger", which is pretty fast...especially with practice.  To me, the Mattock is the best weapon in the game because it reminds me more of a high quality carbine with a big punch...I love it and I don't find anything about it to be unrealistic or overpowered, especially with a smaller ammo capacity.  And it should not be "nerfed" just because a few people don't appreciate it, which will diminish MY enjoyment of the game....and many others I'm sure.  The loudest voice often does not represent the majority.  That's just my opinion though.

[Xivai]

I think the Adept should be nerfed.

[Massadonious1]

I think this forum should be nerfed.

[Foxhound2020]

I think the soldier should be nerfed.