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Beerfish wrote...

Both have done fine jobs overall in the series. At times the leads voice acting can sound bland compared to other characters who have more freedom to express themselves. The leads have to make sure they don't go too far because they are voicing the player.



This is very well said....very good point Beerfish.

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I can't really comment on FemShep since I haven't bothered with my female adept import in ME2 yet. I have to say I definitely prefer a more neutral performance though as opposed to Shepard sounding like he or she is schizophrenic if you ever go from para to renegade choices. As far as that's concerned I think Meer did very well.

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Both actors feel good in my opinion.
It's just that Hale puts more emotion in the lines whereas Meer allows you to project your own feelings into your Shepard because of the neutral delivery.

Those two different approaches work for me. Some of Hale's deliveries had me laughing.

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I'm more concerned with facial expressions

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Luigitornado wrote...

I'm more concerned with facial expressions

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Okay...I have been trying to work out at which moment Shep smiles like this....I have a custom Shep and have been trying to spot that moment on his face...when does this happen?

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I prefer Hale over Meer quite a bit, but I think he actually improved a lot from ME1 to ME2, and hopefully he will improve the same from ME2 to ME3.

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AcidGlow wrote...

 I really hope the voice actor for the male shepard for me3 does alot better, while Jenifer Hale nailed her character Mark Meer was really weak  its really hard to play a male shepard cause it just sounds like hes reading a script half the time with no emotions or feelings

any thoughts comments concerns? :P


I couldn't disagree more. FemShep fans criticize Meer when he's intentionally playing Shepard as stoic.

Mark Meer's voice acting as Shepard has been outstanding, and better than Jennifer Hale's.

Mark Meer's delivery is perfect in that he reminds me of Staff NCOs and Mustangs (officers that are prior enlisted) that I knew while I was in the Marine Corps. I love Jennifer Hale but Meer brings an authenticity to the role that Hale does not.

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AcidGlow wrote...

GodWood wrote...

I really hope Jennifer Hale picks up her act with her VO in ME3.
She was great in ME1 but in ME2 she always sounded either bored or horny.

Or both.


haha i would rather have that then have a character sound like they are reading lines


Which isn't what happened in the first game.  Just saying if you were alluding to Hale sounding like she was reading lines in that game.  I would love a return to the way she voiced Shepard in ME.

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Golden Owl wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

I'm more concerned with facial expressions

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Okay...I have been trying to work out at which moment Shep smiles like this....I have a custom Shep and have been trying to spot that moment on his face...when does this happen?


I think it's one of the conversations with Miranda.

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I personally prefer Jennifer Hale's Mass Effect voice acting as opposed to Mark Meer. Meer always sounds like a cross between Richard Dean Anderson and William Shatner to me. I will agree that Hale's ME2 performance was a bit flatter than her Me 1 performance. It's still preferable (to my ears) over Meer. Again, it's all personal preference. 

YMMV ^_^

/popcorn

Modifié par DJRackham, 07 juillet 2011 - 05:25 .


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Han Shot First wrote...
Mark Meer's delivery is perfect in that he reminds me of Staff NCOs and Mustangs (officers that are prior enlisted) that I knew while I was in the Marine Corps. I love Jennifer Hale but Meer brings an authenticity to the role that Hale does not.


This.

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AcidGlow wrote...

 I really hope the voice actor for the male shepard for me3 does alot better, while Jenifer Hale nailed her character Mark Meer was really weak  its really hard to play a male shepard cause it just sounds like hes reading a script half the time with no emotions or feelings

any thoughts comments concerns? :P


I actualy like his voice acting. When I hear it, I think of Shepard. So his voice = Shepard.

Han Shot First wrote...
I couldn't disagree more. FemShep fans criticize Meer when he's intentionally playing Shepard as stoic.

Mark Meer's voice acting as Shepard has been outstanding, and better than Jennifer Hale's.

Mark
Meer's delivery is perfect in that he reminds me of Staff NCOs and
Mustangs (officers that are prior enlisted) that I knew while I was in
the Marine Corps. I love Jennifer Hale but Meer brings an authenticity
to the role that Hale does not.


You nailed it.

Modifié par Arppis, 07 juillet 2011 - 05:26 .


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DJRackham wrote...

I personally prefer Jennifer Hale's Mass Effect voice acting as opposed to Mark Meer. Meer always sounds like a cross between Richard Dean Anderson and William Shatner to me. I will agree that Hale's ME2 performance was a bit flatter than her Me 1 performance. It's still preferable (to my ears) over Meer. Again, it's all personal preference. 

YMMV ^_^

Sure, it is all personal preference, but it's hilarious that you think Meer's hamming it up to the degree of Shat.  That's the complete opposite point of his performance - intentionally understated and gritty.

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I'll echo the sentiment that for me, Meer sounds like the more authentic military officer I'd expect. Hale brings almost too much range to the character in my opinion.

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I love Mark Meer. Perfect voice for male Shepard.

Jennifer Hale is better, I admit. But the voice of Meer is perfect for Shepard.

Plus, male Shepard is on the cover.......

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AcidGlow wrote...

 I really hope the voice actor for the male shepard for me3 does alot better, while Jenifer Hale nailed her character Mark Meer was really weak  its really hard to play a male shepard cause it just sounds like hes reading a script half the time with no emotions or feelings

any thoughts comments concerns? :P


I'm a big fan of Hale's work, but it's totally unfair to say that Meer did a bad job in ME2. In ME1, okay, yeah, some criticism was warranted. In ME2, he really upped his game. Have you even played ME2 with his voice?

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I like them both. They clearly have a different way of portraying Shepard, but I accept both and really enjoy them. Meer in Arrival was rather excellent.

Let's not get petty over this. It's just a different portrayal. Both have their merits.

Modifié par CheeseEnchilada, 07 juillet 2011 - 05:32 .


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Mark Meer is amazing as male Shepard in mine opinion,even better that Hale.Hale always sound angry or bored.

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Fredvdp wrote...

Mark Meer's renegade performance is perfect. Hale is inconsistent. If you go from a paragon to a renegade line it's as if you're listening to a completely different person. That's why Meer went for a neutral performance.


Well said! :wizard:   I already mentioned it somewhere that BW should have hired someone like Sandra Bernhard, a real classy fierce b*tch, to voice FemShep. Hale really sucked at doing renegade lines

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daqs wrote...

DJRackham wrote...

I personally prefer Jennifer Hale's Mass Effect voice acting as opposed to Mark Meer. Meer always sounds like a cross between Richard Dean Anderson and William Shatner to me. I will agree that Hale's ME2 performance was a bit flatter than her Me 1 performance. It's still preferable (to my ears) over Meer. Again, it's all personal preference. 

YMMV ^_^

Sure, it is all personal preference, but it's hilarious that you think Meer's hamming it up to the degree of Shat.  That's the complete opposite point of his performance - intentionally understated and gritty.


Really, daqs? He totally comes across as being in the classic Richard Dean Anderson/Ben Bowder/William Shatner style with a bit of '80s action hero a la Die Hard. If he's going for "gritty", he's failing, but I don't think he is. He always has a smile in his voice, and even when he's angry doesn't growl or snarl, just emphasizes.

Hammy? Not quite, but Shatner wasn't hammy in TOS either, only in the later movies and in stuff like TJ Hooker or the modern show he's been on. Certainly Meer isn't "gritty" though, if we take "gritty" to be stuff like 24 or The Wire or the like. There's no raw-ness, no pain, only smooth, smooth Commander Shepard. So unless you can get a quote saying he's going for "gritty", I roll to disbelieve, frankly. I think he's going for what Mass Effect is going for, which is a post-modern version of classic science fiction.

Hale is far, far grittier, given more of a "24 in space" vibe than Meer, for better or worse. 

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InviolateNK wrote...

Hale really sucked at doing renegade lines


That's a pretty crappy opinion, frankly. Hale's Renegade lines are extremely strong. It's true that Meer's neutrality serves people who flip between Renegade and Paragon, but claiming Hale's Renegade lines are bad? Just damn silly. Next up "Default Male Shepard is fugly" or similarly niche opinions.

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Eurhetemec wrote...

InviolateNK wrote...

Hale really sucked at doing renegade lines


That's a pretty crappy opinion, frankly. Hale's Renegade lines are extremely strong. It's true that Meer's neutrality serves people who flip between Renegade and Paragon, but claiming Hale's Renegade lines are bad? Just damn silly. Next up "Default Male Shepard is fugly" or similarly niche opinions.


No, it's not silly. I was about to try playing a FemShep, I watched several vids on youtube to get an idea what she sounds like and it was horrible. She sounds bored, monotonous and unexpressive. Hiring her for ME 2 again then again for ME 3 - that's what was really silly.

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Eurhetemec wrote...

InviolateNK wrote...

Hale really sucked at doing renegade lines


That's a pretty crappy opinion, frankly. Hale's Renegade lines are extremely strong. It's true that Meer's neutrality serves people who flip between Renegade and Paragon, but claiming Hale's Renegade lines are bad? Just damn silly. Next up "Default Male Shepard is fugly" or similarly niche opinions.

Well I happen to agree with Inviolate,her Renegade lines were pretty bad,just like his romance lines.

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Get out. Mark Meer's great.

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InviolateNK wrote...

Hiring her for ME 2 again then again for ME 3 - that's what was really silly.

This I can't agree with,it would be far more worse if Shep completely changed his/her voice from one game to another.