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[Pallid]

Come on it's Shepard we are talking about! He will have kids with Miranda despite her infertility, and with Tali despite genetic incompatibility.

[Kadzin]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

Realistically speaking this child will have the biggest god damn shoes to fill in the entire galaxy and will probably be harassed for her/his entire life because of it.

Or he/she would live like royalty on all the money his father stole from wall safes and never have to work a day in his/her life? not to mention bathe in his/her father's fame.

Modifié par Kadzin, 08 juillet 2011 - 08:37 .

[Ieldra]

laecraft wrote...
Also, Miranda's fertility issue baffles me. It's future, you don't have to be fertile to father children. All you need is a scrap of skin. You could take DNA samples from over a dozen people, or just from one, and create a child. That's how Miranda herself was born. Does this mean that she has something like genophage in her DNA? I don't really understand.

This is 100% correct. Whoever wrote that doctor's message didn't take the likely state of reproductive technology in the ME universe into account. Transform stem cells of Miranda into eggs, followed by IVF - poof, it's done. Without any genetic engineering whatsoever. The cause of her problem appears to be some mechanical obstruction from that "benign neoplasm". Even if the cause of that is genetic, it wouldn't prevent the abovementioned process from working. All it means is that the genetic predisposition for it would have to be corrected to prevent her children from inheriting it, if not at fertilization then by gene therapy.   

There are also those who think that Miranda creating a child of her and Shepard in the same way she was created - only this time to circumvent her fertility issue instead of a "genetic dynasty" - would be a good way to show that she's come to terms with her own origins. At the time of ME2, she still seems obsessed with doing things the natural way.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 08 juillet 2011 - 09:05 .

[sael_feman]

If Shepherd wants a 100% human child then yes there are few options....I killed Ashley Williams on Virmire...no regrets. My romance choice is Liara and I don't mind if Shepherd's children are mixed race frankly. There would be nothing better than Shepherd's offspring living for hundreds/ thousand+ years guarding his (her - though not gender choice) legacy.

[sael_feman]

If Shepherd is female there are many men she could mate with, feasibly.

[Han Shot First]

sael_feman wrote...

If Shepherd wants a 100% human child then yes there are few options....I killed Ashley Williams on Virmire...no regrets. My romance choice is Liara and I don't mind if Shepherd's children are mixed race frankly. There would be nothing better than Shepherd's offspring living for hundreds/ thousand+ years guarding his (her - though not gender choice) legacy.

Any children with Liara would be 100% Asari.

It is impossible for aliens to repoduce with humans sexually, since they are different species that evolved on different worlds, and don't share the same DNA. The Asari however, don't really reproduce sexually. When an Asari gets pregnant her partner's role was nothing more than being a trigger to randomize the genes that get passed on to the child, but 100% of the child's genetic code comes from the mother.

If Liara got pregnant from her playtime with Shep, Shepard isn't the biological father.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 08 juillet 2011 - 09:36 .

[Kadzin]

Han Shot First wrote...

sael_feman wrote...

If Shepherd wants a 100% human child then yes there are few options....I killed Ashley Williams on Virmire...no regrets. My romance choice is Liara and I don't mind if Shepherd's children are mixed race frankly. There would be nothing better than Shepherd's offspring living for hundreds/ thousand+ years guarding his (her - though not gender choice) legacy.

Any children with Liara would be 100% Asari.

It is impossible for aliens to repoduce with humans sexually, since they are different species that evolved on different worlds, and don't share the same DNA. The Asari however, don't really reproduce sexually. When an Asari gets pregnant her partner's role was nothing more than being a trigger to randomize the genes that get passed on to the child, but 100% of the child's genetic code comes from the mother.

If Liara got pregnant from her playtime with Shep, Shepard isn't the biological father.

That's because Asari do not reproduce biologicly.
The child would still be Shepard's since the he was the trigger, the genes are not randomised, but would match Shepard's pattern, so the child would keep Shepard's traits, She would be a legitimate daughter of Shepard, the only difference is she will be asari. So I think your threat title should be changed to "Is Jack and Ashley the only female LIs you can have a legitimate HUMAN kid with?"

[GodWood]

Kadzin wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...
Any children with Liara would be 100% Asari.
It is impossible for aliens to repoduce with humans sexually, since they are different species that evolved on different worlds, and don't share the same DNA. The Asari however, don't really reproduce sexually. When an Asari gets pregnant her partner's role was nothing more than being a trigger to randomize the genes that get passed on to the child, but 100% of the child's genetic code comes from the mother.

If Liara got pregnant from her playtime with Shep, Shepard isn't the biological father.

That's because Asari do not reproduce biologicly.
The child would still be Shepard's since the he was the trigger, the genes are not randomised, but would match Shepard's pattern,

No.
The game explicitly states that the genes are randomized.

Check the wiki if you must

[Kreid]

I'm pretty sure Shepard can have children with any or the fertile LI's, as well as letting a bit of him/herself into Liara's children.

If it comes to the worst case scenario he can have a tube baby with anyone, seeing the technology is highly advanced enough, and there's adoption.

Modifié par Creid-X, 08 juillet 2011 - 10:10 .

[ThePwener]

I think Jack is too messed up down there at this point to have kids. I also think Shepard's reproduction capabilities were damaged when he died regardless of sex. For me, Shepard is incapable of having children, even with Liara as we don't know how damaged was Shepard's nerveous system is. For all we know, cibernetics are used to compensate for these damaged systems.

[CroGamer002]

Tali wouldn't die, but she is Quairan so she can't produce any children without other Quairan.

[ThePwener]

Mesina2 wrote...

Tali wouldn't die, but she is Quairan so she can't produce any children without other Quairan.

Logic and sense in the BW Network? Impossible....

[ZeroCrewX]

Ryzaki wrote...

Eurhetemec wrote...
I'm pretty sure that'd be way at the bottom of the list, far below "heal facial scars", so I don't believe it would have been done by the time he/she came back. As noted, I'm sure it's fixable, given time and money.

Uh...I'm pretty sure the reproduction bits would've been done *before* the face seeing as they'd have to work with his insides. They were supposed to restore him to stock with a few extra bits. I'm pretty sure if Shep was fertile to begin with he/she's fertile now. 

It's more than likely already fixed. They were pretty much done with Shepard by the time the attack happens. The face can be healed on the Normandy. They probably just needed to add his/her scars if they had any and take away the scarring from the procedure. 

They do make a point in saying Shep's pretty much the way he/she was with an extra few bits.

The amount of epic awesomeness in both your signature's link and the words afterwards is approved. +1
On a side note, shepard is fertile, and regardless of everything else asari children take more of their fathers than anyone likes to admit, but the proof is already in both games.

[Kadzin]

GodWood wrote...

Kadzin wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...
Any children with Liara would be 100% Asari.
It is impossible for aliens to repoduce with humans sexually, since they are different species that evolved on different worlds, and don't share the same DNA. The Asari however, don't really reproduce sexually. When an Asari gets pregnant her partner's role was nothing more than being a trigger to randomize the genes that get passed on to the child, but 100% of the child's genetic code comes from the mother.

If Liara got pregnant from her playtime with Shep, Shepard isn't the biological father.

That's because Asari do not reproduce biologicly.
The child would still be Shepard's since the he was the trigger, the genes are not randomised, but would match Shepard's pattern,

No.
The game explicitly states that the genes are randomized.

Check the wiki if you must

I checked the wiki and I played the game, some asari state that the genes are randomised, Liara however states that all the traits are taken from the parent species leaving me to believe that they aren't randomised.
I guess it's a matter of interpritation, but I don't think asari would develop well as a species if their kids were nothing like their parents.

[ThePwener]

"Shepard is fertile" ???

We don't know that, nobody does. Saying he is doesn't make it so. Cerberus hid a lot of things from Shepard. Unless Shepard had a second opinion, Cerberus could have lied to keep him comfortable.

[ZeroCrewX]

ThePwener wrote...

"Shepard is fertile" ???

We don't know that, nobody does. Saying he is doesn't make it so. Cerberus hid a lot of things from Shepard. Unless Shepard had a second opinion, Cerberus could have lied to keep him comfortable.

Believe what you will 

[Kadzin]

ZeroCrewX wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

"Shepard is fertile" ???

We don't know that, nobody does. Saying he is doesn't make it so. Cerberus hid a lot of things from Shepard. Unless Shepard had a second opinion, Cerberus could have lied to keep him comfortable.

Believe what you will 

They replaced his unit with a cybernetic implant, it has a vibrate fucntion.
Bahahaha xD

[ThePwener]

Ahhhh, feign ignorance... how bliss it must feel.

Modifié par ThePwener, 08 juillet 2011 - 11:07 .

[GodWood]

Kadzin wrote...
some asari state that the genes are randomised, Liara however states that all the traits are taken from the parent species leaving me to believe that they aren't randomised.

What was the exact wording of this quote from Liara that made you think her word took precedence over the game's codex?

[ThePwener]

GodWood wrote...

Liara that made you think her word took precedence over the game's codex?

The game is always at odds with the codex and the ingame happenings. Don't take it so hard, it's been going on since ME1.

[Kadzin]

GodWood wrote...

Kadzin wrote...
some asari state that the genes are randomised, Liara however states that all the traits are taken from the parent species leaving me to believe that they aren't randomised.

What was the exact wording of this quote from Liara that made you think her word took precedence over the game's codex?

Can't find the quote because the internet hates me.
But even the wiki states that it isn't random, but rather mapped using the father genes:
" However, the offspring is always 100% asari as no DNA is taken from the
partner, but is rather used as a "map" to randomize the genes of the
offspring.
"

[Dariustwinblade]

What about that Bartender in Illium (Liara's father) she said she got he attitude from her dad a krogan.

[AngelicMachinery]

Dariustwinblade wrote...

What about that Bartender in Illium (Liara's father) she said she got he attitude from her dad a krogan.

That doesn't neccesarily suggest she got it from the genes,  she could have gotten it by,  you know being raised by a Krogan.

[Soccer FeverMan]

Kadzin wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

sael_feman wrote...

If Shepherd wants a 100% human child then yes there are few options....I killed Ashley Williams on Virmire...no regrets. My romance choice is Liara and I don't mind if Shepherd's children are mixed race frankly. There would be nothing better than Shepherd's offspring living for hundreds/ thousand+ years guarding his (her - though not gender choice) legacy.

Any children with Liara would be 100% Asari.

It is impossible for aliens to repoduce with humans sexually, since they are different species that evolved on different worlds, and don't share the same DNA. The Asari however, don't really reproduce sexually. When an Asari gets pregnant her partner's role was nothing more than being a trigger to randomize the genes that get passed on to the child, but 100% of the child's genetic code comes from the mother.

If Liara got pregnant from her playtime with Shep, Shepard isn't the biological father.

That's because Asari do not reproduce biologicly.
The child would still be Shepard's since the he was the trigger, the genes are not randomised, but would match Shepard's pattern, so the child would keep Shepard's traits, She would be a legitimate daughter of Shepard, the only difference is she will be asari. So I think your threat title should be changed to "Is Jack and Ashley the only female LIs you can have a legitimate HUMAN kid with?"

yeah true that i think might of confused a lot of people with, i think i just assumed people would have recognized what meant.

[Homebound]

i think what op meant to ask was, who can maleshep bang rocks with to have a human baby? what about kelly?