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[Daradain]

Shep can totally have kids with Liara

[Asari Scientist]

GodWood wrote...

Kadzin wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...
Any children with Liara would be 100% Asari.
It is impossible for aliens to repoduce with humans sexually, since they are different species that evolved on different worlds, and don't share the same DNA. The Asari however, don't really reproduce sexually. When an Asari gets pregnant her partner's role was nothing more than being a trigger to randomize the genes that get passed on to the child, but 100% of the child's genetic code comes from the mother.

If Liara got pregnant from her playtime with Shep, Shepard isn't the biological father.

That's because Asari do not reproduce biologicly.
The child would still be Shepard's since the he was the trigger, the genes are not randomised, but would match Shepard's pattern,

No.
The game explicitly states that the genes are randomized.

Check the wiki if you must

Actually, if you remember Liara's speech about pureblood Asari, you may remember her stating the reason that it is frowned upon is because nothing is gained genetically in the union.  This implies that reproducing using a non-Asari, such as Shepard, would add something new, ie new genetic information.  If the father-species didn't matter at all, and was totally random, then why would this stigma exist?

[Han Shot First]

Kadzin wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Kadzin wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...
Any children with Liara would be 100% Asari.
It is impossible for aliens to repoduce with humans sexually, since they are different species that evolved on different worlds, and don't share the same DNA. The Asari however, don't really reproduce sexually. When an Asari gets pregnant her partner's role was nothing more than being a trigger to randomize the genes that get passed on to the child, but 100% of the child's genetic code comes from the mother.

If Liara got pregnant from her playtime with Shep, Shepard isn't the biological father.

That's because Asari do not reproduce biologicly.
The child would still be Shepard's since the he was the trigger, the genes are not randomised, but would match Shepard's pattern,

No.
The game explicitly states that the genes are randomized.

Check the wiki if you must

I checked the wiki and I played the game, some asari state that the genes are randomised, Liara however states that all the traits are taken from the parent species leaving me to believe that they aren't randomised.
I guess it's a matter of interpritation, but I don't think asari would develop well as a species if their kids were nothing like their parents.

100% of the DNA comes from the Asari mother, whether she's mating with an alien or another Asari. The partner just helps in the randomizing of the mother's DNA.

So Shepard would not  be the biological father of any of Liara's children, as Liara's children would not carry any of their father's genes. Of course there is more to being a father than just a genetic link.

[Priximus]

Han Shot First wrote...

Kadzin wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Kadzin wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...
Any children with Liara would be 100% Asari.
It is impossible for aliens to repoduce with humans sexually, since they are different species that evolved on different worlds, and don't share the same DNA. The Asari however, don't really reproduce sexually. When an Asari gets pregnant her partner's role was nothing more than being a trigger to randomize the genes that get passed on to the child, but 100% of the child's genetic code comes from the mother.

If Liara got pregnant from her playtime with Shep, Shepard isn't the biological father.

That's because Asari do not reproduce biologicly.
The child would still be Shepard's since the he was the trigger, the genes are not randomised, but would match Shepard's pattern,

No.
The game explicitly states that the genes are randomized.

Check the wiki if you must

I checked the wiki and I played the game, some asari state that the genes are randomised, Liara however states that all the traits are taken from the parent species leaving me to believe that they aren't randomised.
I guess it's a matter of interpritation, but I don't think asari would develop well as a species if their kids were nothing like their parents.

100% of the DNA comes from the Asari mother, whether she's mating with an alien or another Asari. The partner just helps in the randomizing of the mother's DNA.

So Shepard would not  be the biological father of any of Liara's children, as Liara's children would not carry any of their father's genes. Of course there is more to being a father than just a genetic link.

Dont forget that in ME1 Liara says the children still inherit traits from the father species.

[Badpie]

I guess if you're talking about making babies the old fashioned way (when a man and woman love each other very much...), human reproduction is probably the only real "legit" (still not sure what you meant by that word but I'm using it to illustrate my point) children.

That being said, we don't know what kind of issues, if any any of the other human love interests have with reproduction. We know about Miranda, we can guess that Jack's body has been through hell, etc. I mean I guess if we're only going by the few things we know for sure (and completely ignoring all the other things we simply don't know) I suppose Ashley would be the only viable baby maker.

But who knows if Shepard, male or female can even reproduce? I'm also of the opinion of NO BABIES IN MASS EFFECT. Let's leave that to fan fictions, shall we?

[ultimatekotorfan]

knightnblu wrote...

If Ashley and Jack were fecund, I wouldn't be surprised to find that Shep's testicles were still floating in space orbiting that planet where the SR1 went down. Given the x-rays at the beginning of ME2, it isn't really that much of a stretch either.

Ahem. Contrary to popular belief, there is not a single "bone" in the penis. Therefore, Shepards nads and space schlong wouldn't appear in an x-ray.

[Drone223]

If male Shepard were to have a human child, it will have to be with Ashley or Kelly, Shepard can have a child with Liara but it would be Asari, Miranda is sterile since she was grown and was planed upon by her father, Jack has been through lot of experiments so that proberly highly unlikely that she could have a child. Tali is Dextro DNA so it won't be able to work with the biological chemistry of Human DNA, also she isa completely different species so it would impossible to do it anyway.

Modifié par Drone223, 08 novembre 2011 - 06:34 .

[CptData]

Soccer FeverMan wrote...

This is just a question that's been bothering since i thought of it  like 12 minutes ago. Is Jack and Ashley the only female LI that can actually produce a mini Shepard.
Cuz Liara the thing would always be asari with no Shep DNA
Miranda is infertile (says so in the SB dossiers)
Tali would prolly die if you attempted

(And no this does not mean i want kids or babies in mass effect, i neither endorse nor refute the option)
PS i just want a straight answer yes or no (dont need people getting on my ass, if they think it's a pointless thread)

Ashley - yes. obviously

Jack - maybe. Maybe she's infertile too because of all the drugs and abuse in her past. At least I wouldn't expect a healthy child.

Liara - yes and no. A kid with her would be an Asari, that's true, but isn't it said some of the genetical information of the father get transferred too? So there's a bit of Shepard in that kid, although not 50% but maybe something between 0.5 ... 1.0%

Miranda - no at this point. Except the Hanar can somehow fix the damage. I doubt they'll do it, but who knows? For the moment Miri is not able to bear a child.

Tali - no. Not because she could die, but because it's not known if Quarians and Humans are compatible genetically. Even if everything is in the right place, even if the deed works like we're used to, it's no guarantee Tali could get pregnant with Shepard's child. More important: Quarians and their dextro-physiology should not be able to RECEIVE "normal" stuff at all. So even if they're compatible, it won't work.

Just for the record:

Gianna Parasini - yes

Punching-bag-Reporter - yes

Shepard's-fav-Reporter - yes

Sha'ira - same as Liara

Biotic God - no. He's male, stupid

Blasto - disturbing idea ...

Modifié par CptData, 08 novembre 2011 - 06:32 .

[snfonseka]

Think about what the entire galaxy would expect from that child. Poor kid, he/ she won't be able to fulfill those expectations.

[snfonseka]

CptData wrote...

Soccer FeverMan wrote...

This is just a question that's been bothering since i thought of it  like 12 minutes ago. Is Jack and Ashley the only female LI that can actually produce a mini Shepard.
Cuz Liara the thing would always be asari with no Shep DNA
Miranda is infertile (says so in the SB dossiers)
Tali would prolly die if you attempted

(And no this does not mean i want kids or babies in mass effect, i neither endorse nor refute the option)
PS i just want a straight answer yes or no (dont need people getting on my ass, if they think it's a pointless thread)

...

Just for the record:

Gianna Parasini - yes

Punching-bag-Reporter - yes

Shepard's-fav-Reporter - yes

Sha'ira - same as Liara

Biotic God - no. He's male, stupid

Blasto - disturbing idea ...

Hmm.... that's a good idea .

[Quole]

Soccer FeverMan wrote...

This is just a question that's been bothering since i thought of it  like 12 minutes ago. Is Jack and Ashley the only female LI that can actually produce a mini Shepard.
Cuz Liara the thing would always be asari with no Shep DNA
Miranda is infertile (says so in the SB dossiers)
Tali would prolly die if you attempted

(And no this does not mean i want kids or babies in mass effect, i neither endorse nor refute the option)
PS i just want a straight answer yes or no (dont need people getting on my ass, if they think it's a pointless thread)

Tali would not be able to have kids but not for the reason you said. She and Shepard already had sex. They are however incompatible when it comes to having kids.

Modifié par Quole, 08 novembre 2011 - 06:43 .

[CptData]

snfonseka wrote...

CptData wrote...

Soccer FeverMan wrote...

This is just a question that's been bothering since i thought of it  like 12 minutes ago. Is Jack and Ashley the only female LI that can actually produce a mini Shepard.
Cuz Liara the thing would always be asari with no Shep DNA
Miranda is infertile (says so in the SB dossiers)
Tali would prolly die if you attempted

(And no this does not mean i want kids or babies in mass effect, i neither endorse nor refute the option)
PS i just want a straight answer yes or no (dont need people getting on my ass, if they think it's a pointless thread)

...

Just for the record:

Gianna Parasini - yes

Punching-bag-Reporter - yes

Shepard's-fav-Reporter - yes

Sha'ira - same as Liara

Biotic God - no. He's male, stupid

Blasto - disturbing idea ...

Hmm.... that's a good idea .

I brought her up since she's the #1 of my "non-available-but-wanna-have-LI" in case I can't have Ashley / virmired her. I simply love how she looks, how she acts, who she is. Despite the fact she's just a minor character she got some nice development.

[ItsKenny217]

Shep can have kids with Ashley, but something tells me Ash doesn't really want kids. Not because she doesn't want to be a mother, but because she's an army gal, she's not ready to settle down and be a mom.

[CptData]

ItsKenny217 wrote...

Shep can have kids with Ashley, but something tells me Ash doesn't really want kids. Not because she doesn't want to be a mother, but because she's an army gal, she's not ready to settle down and be a mom.

That works for me. She may settle down one day, but first she'll go after her career. Given the fact humans can live up to 150 years in ME she won't settle down before 40 to have kids with Shepard.

However, I can see them both marrying quite early ... maybe shortly after end of ME3. In case it's possible.

Modifié par CptData, 08 novembre 2011 - 07:10 .

[ItsKenny217]

CptData wrote...

ItsKenny217 wrote...

Shep can have kids with Ashley, but something tells me Ash doesn't really want kids. Not because she doesn't want to be a mother, but because she's an army gal, she's not ready to settle down and be a mom.

That works for me. She may settle down one day, but first she'll go after her career. Given the fact humans can live up to 150 years in ME she won't settle down before 40 to have kids with Shepard.

However, I can see them both marrying quite early ... maybe shortly after end of ME3. In case it's possible.

Yeah, well how old is Shepard at this point? I know he was 29 in ME1, so he's in his thirties now and I imagine Ash is aswell. So, maybe if they do have have kids, Ash will wind up like her mother. An "army wife". 

[CptData]

ItsKenny217 wrote...

CptData wrote...

ItsKenny217 wrote...

Shep can have kids with Ashley, but something tells me Ash doesn't really want kids. Not because she doesn't want to be a mother, but because she's an army gal, she's not ready to settle down and be a mom.

That works for me. She may settle down one day, but first she'll go after her career. Given the fact humans can live up to 150 years in ME she won't settle down before 40 to have kids with Shepard.

However, I can see them both marrying quite early ... maybe shortly after end of ME3. In case it's possible.

Yeah, well how old is Shepard at this point? I know he was 29 in ME1, so he's in his thirties now and I imagine Ash is aswell. So, maybe if they do have have kids, Ash will wind up like her mother. An "army wife". 

I think Ashley is 25 in ME, makes her 27 in ME2 / ME3. She's in "perfect age" for me (or Shepard) if you dig in that theory a guy should be arround 4 years older than his girlfriend. Tali for example seems to be approx 10 years younger than Shepard (which applies to my fiancee as well - I'm as old as Shepard in ME).

[Homebound]

well with all the death thats been going on at Earth during the game, Im sure the united Earth adoption agency is going through a growth spurt.

[Yuqi]

ultimatekotorfan wrote...

knightnblu wrote...

If Ashley and Jack were fecund, I wouldn't be surprised to find that Shep's testicles were still floating in space orbiting that planet where the SR1 went down. Given the x-rays at the beginning of ME2, it isn't really that much of a stretch either.

Ahem. Contrary to popular belief, there is not a single "bone" in the penis. Therefore, Shepards nads and space schlong wouldn't appear in an x-ray.

Not forgetting, the reproductive system needs way more then those bits, to function. Shepard was barely salvagable in the first place, so I doubt he/she is a perfect replica.  They  also mention, they had to use something to speed the process up. With such a delicate project, it's most likely 'some sacrifices' had to be made. The reproductive system would be on the lower end of that list.

[Celtic Latino]

Considering what Shepard's been through I highly doubt (s)he would be capable of having children, let alone be coming a parent. However it hasn't been stated that (s)he was infertile or have any diminished chance of children (not like being a Spectre reduces that chance lol).

For Man Shep, the only ones who would give him children would be probably be Ashley or Kelly. Jack probably could but considering those tests she may be sterile or at least have a higher probability of miscarriage, Miranda is already infertile, and Kasumi unfortunately is not an LI otherwise she would likely be able to. Liara could give him children but they would be asari. Tali...no. There are no hybrids in the Mass Effect universe and her DNA is totally different than Shepard's. It's hard enough for them to have a physical relationship as it is.

For Fem Shep, I'd say Kaidan and Jacob would both make capable fathers, while being with Liara would result in asari children. Still I think considering she's died and all the hells and horrors she's been through she may be infertile (but assuming she's not). Garrus, like Tali, is a definite no. Different anatomy and DNA, having a physical relationship is hard enough. Thane I doubt because the DNA is probably so different and there hasn't been any reported hybrids yet (and probably won't be)...but of all the possibly hybrids a Drell-Human is probably the only feasible possibility considering they both can eat the same foods and have humanoid structure.

[ItsKenny217]

CptData wrote...

ItsKenny217 wrote...

CptData wrote...

ItsKenny217 wrote...

Shep can have kids with Ashley, but something tells me Ash doesn't really want kids. Not because she doesn't want to be a mother, but because she's an army gal, she's not ready to settle down and be a mom.

That works for me. She may settle down one day, but first she'll go after her career. Given the fact humans can live up to 150 years in ME she won't settle down before 40 to have kids with Shepard.

However, I can see them both marrying quite early ... maybe shortly after end of ME3. In case it's possible.

Yeah, well how old is Shepard at this point? I know he was 29 in ME1, so he's in his thirties now and I imagine Ash is aswell. So, maybe if they do have have kids, Ash will wind up like her mother. An "army wife". 

I think Ashley is 25 in ME, makes her 27 in ME2 / ME3. She's in "perfect age" for me (or Shepard) if you dig in that theory a guy should be arround 4 years older than his girlfriend. Tali for example seems to be approx 10 years younger than Shepard (which applies to my fiancee as well - I'm as old as Shepard in ME).

I suddenly have to urge to start a new ME playthrough and romance Ash! 

[Air36723]

Shepard was 29 in ME1, was dead for 2 years...body quit aging, so technically those 2years he's still physically 29. since we have no real idea on when in those 2years cerberus got the body to the point where it would be considered alive. So im assuming he's a year behind physically from where he should be chronologically. Back to topic....biologically, yes Ash and any other human with the exception of Miranda and possibly jack (depends on body reaction to all those drugs) are possible, if cerberus didnt monkey with his equipment. Liara is possible but would be an asari with "human" traits. Tali and Garrus....well there will be lots of orphans at the end of ME3 from all races, so why the hell not. If they adopted em, legally wouldnt they be "their" kids, but then i'm a believer of your parents are those who care/raise and love you irregardless of their biological paternity.

[Labrev]

Asari Scientist wrote...

Actually, if you remember Liara's speech about pureblood Asari, you may remember her stating the reason that it is frowned upon is because nothing is gained genetically in the union.  This implies that reproducing using a non-Asari, such as Shepard, would add something new, ie new genetic information.  If the father-species didn't matter at all, and was totally random, then why would this stigma exist?

Which she noted as a misconception, by saying "or so says conventional-wisdom." Same was said by Erinya on Illium.

[seirhart]

I would have to say that for m/s shepard that cereberus put their reproductive organs in before a few others. Also TIM says that he wanted shepard as in tact as possible before dieing, in my opinion makes me think that shepard has all of the necessary reproduction organs for reproduction. If shepard has kids those kids would have giant shoes to fill and everyone would pester them to do something as great as shepard did.

[Kadzin]

XX55XX wrote...

What about Liara and the "little blue children?"

As legit as they can get imo.

[Drone223]

Celtic Latino wrote...

Considering what Shepard's been through I highly doubt (s)he would be capable of having children, let alone be coming a parent. However it hasn't been stated that (s)he was infertile or have any diminished chance of children (not like being a Spectre reduces that chance lol).

For Man Shep, the only ones who would give him children would be probably be Ashley or Kelly. Jack probably could but considering those tests she may be sterile or at least have a higher probability of miscarriage, Miranda is already infertile, and Kasumi unfortunately is not an LI otherwise she would likely be able to. Liara could give him children but they would be asari. Tali...no. There are no hybrids in the Mass Effect universe and her DNA is totally different than Shepard's. It's hard enough for them to have a physical relationship as it is.

For Fem Shep, I'd say Kaidan and Jacob would both make capable fathers, while being with Liara would result in asari children. Still I think considering she's died and all the hells and horrors she's been through she may be infertile (but assuming she's not). Garrus, like Tali, is a definite no. Different anatomy and DNA, having a physical relationship is hard enough. Thane I doubt because the DNA is probably so different and there hasn't been any reported hybrids yet (and probably won't be)...but of all the possibly hybrids a Drell-Human is probably the only feasible possibility considering they both can eat the same foods and have humanoid structure.

^This