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#751
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I think Dragon Age 2 has missed its window now for DLC with other games on the horizon money would be best put towards that like Deus Ex 3 for example...

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I'll always jump at the chance to learn more about papa Hawke. Looking forward to Legacy!

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Are we still able to return to the Vimmark Mountains on completion of the DLC? And while visiting the Vimmark Mountains, can we return to Kirkwall to resupply on items before returning to finish Legacy's storyline?

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Looking forward to Legacy. I've wondered about Papa Hawke, so it'll be interesting to see what ties he had to the Grey Wardens. Also, curious about how fighting these newly designed dark spawns will be like. I have two post-game saves, one warrior, one rogue, that I'll probably both use for playing through the DLC. Now, who shall I bring with me? :)

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If there is anyone I want to make a cameo appearance, it's the murder knife from origins!

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Not getting anything that doesn't progress Hawke's story or the overarching plot.

This is exactly the wrong type of DLC they should be making, given all the anger and controversy over the game.

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TheTWF wrote...

Not getting anything that doesn't progress Hawke's story or the overarching plot.

This is exactly the wrong type of DLC they should be making, given all the anger and controversy over the game.

Why? It isn't like they said there wouldn't be any post game DLC.

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TheTWF wrote...

Not getting anything that doesn't progress Hawke's story or the overarching plot.


But it DOES look like something that concerns Hawke's backstory and might shine light on the deeper plot mechanics.

A common complaint with DA2 was that, despite all the hype for the Champion being The Most Important Person in the History Of Thedas, Hawke actually isn't very deeply involved in DA2s most important events. Maybe this will give us some reason why Hawke is important?

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It's going to be for free right?

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Hexsun wrote...

It's going to be for free right?

Herein lies my problem. the game was rushed and very short on content, making me want to buy the DLC. On the other hand, the game was rushed and very short on content, making me not want to have to spend another penny to give myself a somewhat complete experience (even the DLC won't do that, but better than nothing).

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nothing for free
everything cost something
for this dlc cost money or see if dragon age 2 ultimate edition doubtful that ever happen in near future

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ShootingStars wrote...

If there is anyone I want to make a cameo appearance, it's the murder knife from origins!


+10

That thing was pure evil

Modifié par Dantexr3, 17 juillet 2011 - 01:51 .


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DreamerM wrote...

I see DA2 as basically the "Half-Blood Prince" of the franchise. "Stuff happens" but the whole story is building up to the next one. There was no closure for The Champion, just anticipation of shadowy plans and huge world-changing powers.

This can work, but it does mean DA3's plot has to pull a "Deathly Hallows" and hit the ground running. We've already played the slowly unraveling mystery, now it's time for some explosive payoff. We don't get that, and we get a Heroes Season 2 problem and the story won't pull together. 


I think your two examples, the Half Blood Prince and Heroes Season 2, are perfect examples that Bioware has messed up.

The Half Blood Prince was the sixth book in the most popular series of literature in the entire world. It had taken five previous books of good pacing, plot building, world immersion and character development before Rowling put out a book that was a little lackluster, but was building to a focal point. Five books to have the audience gain loyalty and trust in the work that was going on.

Both DA2 and Heroes Season 2 were both panned by critics as not being as stunning as their first predecssor. Both IPs came out of the gate swinging in their first installments, but already lost momentum by their second iteration. This was caused by the 2007 Writer's Strike for Heroes and in DA2's case. is speculated by many on the internet to be the cause of EA pushing an unrealistic time table. In the case of Heroes, the poor showing on Season 2 eroded the large fanbase and eventually caused the show to slip and be cancelled, after being heralded as a flagship show in the NBC lineup just a few years prior.

My point is that in the case of Harry Potter, there were many installments that worked great as stand alone stories and didn't sacrifice their quality for the sake of future books until the sixth book, while we saw this happening early in Heroes and again in DA2.

Bioware needs to realize they have to swing for the fences with every DLC  and expansion release they do for DA2, and have to make sure DA3 blows us all away or this IP could be heading for an early grave. Games series with much larger fanbases (cough, cough, Knights of the Old Republic, cough, cough) have gone the way of the Dodo after poor sequal performances before, there is nothing to suggest this won't happen here as well if things don't start making a turn for the better.

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Glad there is a dlc for this. I look forward to playing it. Thanks Bioware.

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You people still whining about the game, and hating on the DLC- why are you posting? Get the hell out of here and go buy your other games. I will spend my 800 Microsoft points and enjoy a new chapter, while you pant for Mass Defect 3. AMAZING how well the game has done, considering the initial issues. Can't wait to slaughter everything in sight.

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One of the things that I'm hoping this dlc will shed some light on is the Primeval Thaig. It was implied that the dwarves living there venerated other beings other than their ancestors, so I'm hoping The Conductor has some ties to that (since it alludes to being some 2,000 years old.) Yeah, it might shake up established continuity about the Darkspawn, but lets face it: the Chantry isn't the most reliable source of information regarding their origin, especially given their bias towards magi, and the Tevinter Imperium specifically.

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BY-TOR STORMDRAGON wrote...

You people still whining about the game, and hating on the DLC- why are you posting? Get the hell out of here and go buy your other games. I will spend my 800 Microsoft points and enjoy a new chapter, while you pant for Mass Defect 3. AMAZING how well the game has done, considering the initial issues. Can't wait to slaughter everything in sight.


Everyone is entiled to an opinion ! , I think most posters care about the dragon age games so much , they feel they want to put their opinion across and hope they can make dragon age 3 the best of all ! Posted Image

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Hexsun wrote...

It's going to be for free right?


9.99 for 3+ hours of playtime is about 3.33 an hour. If you can't deal with that...then dont buy it.

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DA2 fb page is hilarious ... who knew!

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This game show how bioware want more and more money. They don't care about fans, and the most they don't concern them poorer They are walking over everybody farther ,,you spent a fortune on game and you want still to play it'', ,,you aren't paying you aren't playing'' that's all quotations. How they are daring to say that they care about fans since are doing such things.I regret that I bought DA 2. Where people which created DAO and ME1.Money devoured them. And don't talk bull**** for me that that's all is going for supporting the company. If BIOWARE doesn't react will have very malign effects and it isn't here about gifts too 3 pt .When I removed dragoon age I had a smile on my face i go play in Starcraft 2 , and old good STRONGHOLD

Modifié par StilleRo0o, 18 juillet 2011 - 09:25 .


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StilleRo0o wrote...

This game show how bioware want more and more money. They don't care about fans, and the most they don't concern them poorer They are walking over everybody farther ,,you spent a fortune on game and you want still to play it'', ,,you aren't paying you aren't playing'' that's all quotations. How they are daring to say that they care about fans since are doing such things.I regret that I bought DA 2. Where people which created DAO and ME1.Money devoured them. And don't talk bull**** for me that that's all is going for supporting the company. If BIOWARE doesn't react will have very malign effects and it isn't here about gifts too 3 pt .When I removed dragoon age I had a smile on my face i go play in Starcraft 2 , soltaire



  • Please learn to type in proper english and not broken english with run-on sentences everywhere.
  • You do realize Bioware has addressed some of the issues with DA2? Reused maps, waves, etc.. If you actually look at the demo you'll see that combat has been changed so that waves aren't used as much, enemies are lying in wait for you much like they were in Origins, and you can use parts of the environment to your advantage.
  • Legacy will have Hawke making important decisions that will be tracked in the future, meaning he won't be pigeonholed into one solution. He can actually make a decision.
  • If Bioware really only wanted money, then they'd make more DLC like Witch Hunt. Instead now they're taking their time to create quality DLC with quality content. This DLC alone could take you at least 3 hours to complete.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 18 juillet 2011 - 09:28 .


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StilleRo0o wrote...

This game show how bioware want more and more money. They don't care about fans, and the most they don't concern them poorer They are walking over everybody farther ,,you spent a fortune on game and you want still to play it'', ,,you aren't paying you aren't playing'' that's all quotations. How they are daring to say that they care about fans since are doing such things.I regret that I bought DA 2. Where people which created DAO and ME1.Money devoured them. And don't talk bull**** for me that that's all is going for supporting the company. If BIOWARE doesn't react will have very malign effects and it isn't here about gifts too 3 pt .When I removed dragoon age I had a smile on my face i go play in Starcraft 2 , and old good STRONGHOLD


Another douche who thinks he knows eveything.

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  • Please learn to type in proper english and not broken english with run-on sentences everywhere.
  • You
    do realize Bioware has addressed some of the issues with DA2? Reused
    maps, waves, etc.. If you actually look at the demo you'll see that
    combat has been changed so that waves aren't used as much, enemies are
    lying in wait for you much like they were in Origins, and you can use
    parts of the environment to your advantage.
  • Legacy will
    have Hawke making important decisions that will be tracked in the
    future, meaning he won't be pigeonholed into one solution. He can
    actually make a decision.
  • If Bioware really only wanted
    money, then they'd make more DLC like Witch Hunt. Instead now they're
    taking their time to create quality DLC with quality content. This DLC
    alone could take you at least 3 hours to complete.


I agree with all your point except the
third one. How is it that they will make your decisions have meaning and not be
pigeon holed when the ending of the game is exactly the same? I does not matter
what you do in the story the same ending will have you fight the same bosses
with the same outcomes.

This is why I'm so upset with the time period they chose to create this
DLC in. They did this to avoid having to allow your decisions have lasting
meaning. This was my biggest grip with DAII and I see they will not be
addressing that. All in all I loved DAII and played it through 4 times, but this
DLC really does nothing for me. I usually don't play any game more than once so
I don't intend on doing a 5th play through.

I’m happy that they did
address some of the issues with an otherwise awesome game. I was just wishing
they advanced the story at the same time they fixed issues.

Modifié par brigantine, 18 juillet 2011 - 10:50 .


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brigantine wrote...


  • Please learn to type in proper english and not broken english with run-on sentences everywhere.
  • You
    do realize Bioware has addressed some of the issues with DA2? Reused
    maps, waves, etc.. If you actually look at the demo you'll see that
    combat has been changed so that waves aren't used as much, enemies are
    lying in wait for you much like they were in Origins, and you can use
    parts of the environment to your advantage.
  • Legacy will
    have Hawke making important decisions that will be tracked in the
    future, meaning he won't be pigeonholed into one solution. He can
    actually make a decision.

  • If Bioware really only wanted
    money, then they'd make more DLC like Witch Hunt. Instead now they're
    taking their time to create quality DLC with quality content. This DLC
    alone could take you at least 3 hours to complete.


I agree with all your point except the
third one. How is it that they will make your decisions have meaning and not be
pigeon holed when the ending of the game is exactly the same? I does not matter
what you do in the story the same ending will have you fight the same bosses
with the same outcomes.

This is why I'm so upset with the time period they chose to create this
DLC in. They did this to avoid having to allow your decisions have lasting
meaning. This was my biggest grip with DAII and I see they will not be
addressing that. All in all I loved DAII and played it through 4 times, but this
DLC really does nothing for me. I usually don't play any game more than once so
I don't intend on doing a 5th play through.

I’m happy that they did
address some of the issues with an otherwise awesome game. I was just wishing
they advanced the story at the same time they fixed issues.





If you're thinking I meant it changes the base story, that's not what I meant (and you'll be the second person to have thought that. Which confuses me because I thought I what I typed was evident in its meaning Posted Image).

I mean that Hawke's decisions in Legacy will have an impact on the future of the series, like the Warden's decision on Avernus' fate. If Avernus lives, he discovers something alarming. Something that causes someone to be bold enough to move against the Wardens.

That's what I mean. Hawke gets to make an actual decision and the end result of that decision won't be the same. It will have different outcomes.

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It seems clear to me that BW has embraced the FO3 and FONV model of DLC. Not expansions per se, but certainly decent-sized bits of content. It certainly matches the price point (800 MS) and play size (3-4 hours per playthrough) that Bethesda and Obsidian have been successful at. I think that's a positive development. Legacy looks like our "Dead Money" or "The Pitt."

I want to know when we're getting our "Broken Steel!" Betting there will be post Act 3 content, but it will be more or less the same length (maybe more than one) at 3-4 hours per DLC. I don't think we'll be seeing expansions, but we'll see post Act 3 Hawke adventures that will be influenced by these events.