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[matt-bassist]

I've seen a lot of people voice their concerns about ME3 based off of how absolutely poor DA2 was. I just got a Facebook update about the new Dragon Age: Legacy expansion, and judging by the comments it seems that the DA community hasn't even begun to forgive Bioware for DA2. And I agree with them, DA2 was a step so far back it's hard to believe that it's actually a Bioware game.

I'm not sure how successful this Legacy expansion is going to be (I probably won't buy it) but you can be damn sure that Bioware has taken note and Mass Effect 3 will not make the same mistakes. With DA:O they spent years creating an absolutely amazing world, rich with detail and culture, and in less than a year they turned what could've been a really successful IP into dust. It makes me sad to think about it, but it gives me hope because there is no damn way they will ruin their ME franchise as well.

So cry for Thedas, but feel good knowing the galaxy of Mass Effect will be okay.

[Il Divo]

While DA2 was lackluster, I never thought it would impact Mass Effect 3's development in any significant way.

[tobynator89]

liked DA2 better than DA:O

[matt-bassist]

tobynator89 wrote...

liked DA2 better than DA:O

[DTKT]

It depends.

We haven't seen much besides some gameplay. I'm still waiting to see how Bioware is structuring the story and how companions are integrated.

There's a lot that can go wrong and not every company is "willing" to really learn from it's past mistakes.

[Il Divo]

matt-bassist wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

liked DA2 better than DA:O

So it begins.

[KingNothing125]

DA2 did many things wrong, but it also did some things right. I hope BioWare has learned from both.

[tabulius]

DA2 was ok game. But I also felt that it was a step backwards. I'm 100% sure that ME3 will be an amazing ride tho.

[matt-bassist]

DTKT wrote...

It depends.

We haven't seen much besides some gameplay. I'm still waiting to see how Bioware is structuring the story and how companions are integrated.

There's a lot that can go wrong and not every company is "willing" to really learn from it's past mistakes.

True, but with them continually talking about continuing the Mass Effect franchise, I doubt they'd take such a risk again. Right?

[tobynator89]

Il Divo wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

liked DA2 better than DA:O

So it begins.

nah, I hate walls of text discussions, Not starting this one.  I'm sure someone will on my behalf, I hope they don't though.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

Different teams different writers different game

[BloodyTalon]

DA 2 Eh it was a game hat odit

[happy_daiz]

GreyWarden36 wrote...

Different teams different writers different game

Exactly. I'm not worried at all, never was.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 07 juillet 2011 - 09:58 .

[Il Divo]

tobynator89 wrote...

nah, I hate walls of text discussions, Not starting this one.  I'm sure someone will on my behalf, I hope they don't though.

Damn it, there is going to be a flame war even if I have to ignite the fire myself! Anything less would be a stain on the BSN's honor.  

[Rockworm503]

Il Divo wrote...

While DA2 was lackluster, I never thought it would impact Mass Effect 3's development in any significant way.

this different teams making each game.

[KillTheLastRomantic]

I became far more optimistic towards ME3 when it was announced that the release date was being set back.

[CroGamer002]

Eh, Dragon Age IP is nothing special.

[Lucifer_Cheney]

People keep saying its different teams making different games and while that is true, both teams are no doubt adhering to BW's business strategy of dum...er streamlining its games to appeal to a wider audience that don't like the more traditional rpg. DA2 was probably more influenced by ME2 in that regard.

[Il Divo]

Lucifer_Cheney wrote...

People keep saying its different teams making different games and while that is true, both teams are no doubt adhering to BW's business strategy of dum...er streamlining its games to appeal to a wider audience that don't like the more traditional rpg. DA2 was probably more influenced by ME2 in that regard.

I personally would take Mass Effect 2's fluid gameplay over Mass Effect's awkward mechanics any day. Unlike Dragon Age (which began as a full blown rpg), Mass Effect was a hybrid from the start, but didn't execute either the rpg/tps elements to my satisfaction. In that sense, I consider the redesign to be a vast improvement.

DA:O's combat system was fine, it simply needed to be sped up a bit.

Modifié par Il Divo, 07 juillet 2011 - 10:10 .

[Cainne Chapel]

Streamlined = dumbing down....really this again?
That would imply it took some sort of "smarts" to play ME1 over ME2.

It didn't, doesn't and wont.

Granted I felt DA2 was a step back from DA:O, but none the less I enjoyed the game for what it was, as really it wasn't a DIRECT continuation of the wardens story and focused on another part of the overall world. I think to rectify it they should make

Dragon Age: Origins 2.
....because lets face it... they never made Dragon Age to begin with! Let alone to warrant a Dragon Age 2

[Rockworm503]

I'm seriously just gonna start tuning out the conversation when someone brings streamlined as dumbing down.

[DTKT]

While it is true that DA and ME are both handled by different teams, upper management is still the same for both. In the case of DAII, that means that there was a conscious decision to release a rushed product. They knew about the possible negative reception to the release.

Keeping that in mind, what is stopping them from releasing ME3 when it's clearly not ready? What motivated them to introduce Kinect? Was the delay just to cram Kinect in there?

So yeah, while the design teams are different, they can repeat the same management mistakes.

[Fiery Phoenix]

In a recent interview with ME3 developers it was explicitly stated that they are learning from what the DA team had done wrong with DA2 and as such have no intentions of repeating the same mistakes. How you take this is up to you, but at least they're well aware of everything.

[The Elder King]

I'm not worried about ME3 for DA2, my main problem with it is the fact that they have rushed the game (though I prefer DAO's direction on DA2).