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I could never bring myself to recruit morinth because it would require me to kill someone I sought and asked to join me on a mission that is mostly likely a suicidal one, and who had actually came to me for help with a very personnel situation. I just couldn't do it, even after having 8 playthroughs (4 femshep, 4maleshep, all imported, one of them consist of a renegade, paragon, and insane playthrough. all the malesheps are virgins).

I just don't like the idea of recruiting someone you can't trust and doesn't offer any benefits that you don't already have with samara, especially after listening to her( I called her an emo-boner-wanna-be-douchebag everytime) and i even renegaded our entire conversation; which was hilarious.

but yeah the point is I want to know why people recruit her, please give me logical reasons beside the 'best sex in the world, but it kills you.'  (that girls mother always made me sad! Always! i grew an appreciation for garrus as well)

(NO flaming please.)

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TheMakoMaster

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other that to get red points for the red bar and the terminator face, idk why...

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Honestly I don't see any reason other than to be a renegade bad ass dick. But, I'm sure that she must bring something to the table, I've never done it, but I recommend that you save just before the club where you find her, and get her just to try it out, see what kind of conversations and opinions she has. If you don't like it, fire her out of the air lock. :D

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I recruited her as a renegade. Samara explicitly says that she may have to kill you after the mission if you do anything that violates her code, and I wasn't about to take that risk.

I don't trust Morinth, but she's only a danger if she manages to seduce anyone on your squad. And as she has to pretend she's Samara and my Shepard isn't dumb enough to sleep with her, I'm fine.

Also, Dominate is awesome.

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because renegade shep is kind of a "hedonist do evil stuff for giggles" type her/himself and is afraid that samara will find out and swear to kill him/her?

Which is basically what she promises renegade shep.

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CheeseEnchilada wrote...

I recruited her as a renegade. Samara explicitly says that she may have to kill you after the mission if you do anything that violates her code, and I wasn't about to take that risk.

I don't trust Morinth, but she's only a danger if she manages to seduce anyone on your squad. And as she has to pretend she's Samara and my Shepard isn't dumb enough to sleep with her, I'm fine.

Also, Dominate is awesome.


How Machiavellian of you!:devil:

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I've "recruited" Morinth twice out of 6 times. Partly because I wanted to make sure I had access to as many different story arcs as possible, but also because of what Enchilada said.

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tobynator89 wrote...

because renegade shep is kind of a "hedonist do evil stuff for giggles"
type her/himself and is afraid that samara will find out and swear to kill him/her?

Which is basically what she promises renegade shep.


which is why i didn't like morinth, the situation was ineteresting, but it felt like a reward only to the renegadeshep, which is why i hated BW for wasting game space on her.

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tobynator89

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Duskeyboy wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

because renegade shep is kind of a "hedonist do evil stuff for giggles"
type her/himself and is afraid that samara will find out and swear to kill him/her?

Which is basically what she promises renegade shep.


which is why i didn't like morinth, the situation was ineteresting, but it felt like a reward only to the renegadeshep, which is why i hated BW for wasting game space on her.


and renegade shep shouldn't be rewarded once in a while?

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Duskeyboy wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

because renegade shep is kind of a "hedonist do evil stuff for giggles"
type her/himself and is afraid that samara will find out and swear to kill him/her?

Which is basically what she promises renegade shep.


which is why i didn't like morinth, the situation was ineteresting, but it felt like a reward only to the renegadeshep, which is why i hated BW for wasting game space on her.


Paragon's get a kill crazy space cowboy, and renegades get a space succubus.  Relax bro,  not everything in the game has to deal with being a nice.

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TheMakoMaster

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even when playing as a renegade (which admittedly, i rarely do) i never saw a good reason to betray samara. It's quite cold. While samara says she might have to kill shepard if he/she forces her into a flagrant violation of the justicar code, most of shepard's renegade decisions are not the acts of an evildoer who stomps on puppies and murders innocents. For example, sacrificing the council and/or killing the Rachni queen were two decisive acts that were done with the intention of producing the greater good (though shepard's actual lines were sometimes filled with some "mwaahaha"). Also, Samara is vague on her code, saying that it holds stanzas that instruct her on every possible situation (i doubt that). But as shepard is exclusively fighting bad guys and samara is unrelenting in her pursuit of bad guys, samara seems like the vastly safer bet for both paragons and renegades.   Samara talks about her need to give up her fight with Nihlus in order to protect innocents. since she does not explain this further (as far as i can remember) it is hard to tell how samara would feel about shepard's decision-making regarding some of the grayer areas...

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To OP reasons why I pick Morinth:

1) Samara is there for the mission, Morinth is there for me.

2) Morinth is a better biotic in the long run, since she is younger and already the same level as Samara. Morinth has other useful skills that one could perhaps benefit from.

3) She is sexy, as in triple sexy: a) I want to hug her because she is hated by everybody. B) I want her at my side because she is badass and powerful. c) she is plain good looking, has an awesome voice and is intelligent.

There you go.

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Nah I never ever recruit her, because she is completely evil and I feel so bad for Nef :(

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She is powerful, beautiful, smart and really likes Shepard, she may be kinda crazy but in her own way, of my four playthroughs I only chose to help Samara once and only because I did not have morality points enough, she is one of my favorite characters and I hope she will be more important in ME3(highly unlikely though, as I'm one of her only fans)

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I'd recruit her on general principal of the borderline racist and sexist emotional anvil Bioware tried to hit me with in regards to Nef, who's apparently the one innocent, pure, virginal white human girl on an Alien space station known as the equivalent to the pits of depravity and vice.

Had 'Nef' been replaced by Excel 10 guy, people would have laughed and gone 'he was stupid and asking for it.' Had it been some seedy criminal type Batarian, people would have gone 'he/she deserved it.' Had it been some terminally ill Elcor artist, people would have been 'meh, he was going to die anyway.'

But a virgin girl! That changes everything.

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Duskeyboy wrote...

which is why i didn't like morinth, the situation was ineteresting, but it felt like a reward only to the renegadeshep, which is why i hated BW for wasting game space on her.


Think of it this way, you're given the ability to betray Samara and recruit her murdering mind-vampire daughter instead of helping her. If you were forced into helping Samara no matter what, doing so would be without weight. It's the fact you have the option to not do that which makes actually helping her worthwhile.

It's like, say, turning Isabela over to the Qunari in Dragon Age 2, assuming that comparison means anything. I don't like that choice, I never do that choice, but the fact that it's there gives meaning to standing up for her instead.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

I'd recruit her on general principal of the borderline racist and sexist emotional anvil Bioware tried to hit me with in regards to Nef, who's apparently the one innocent, pure, virginal white human girl on an Alien space station known as the equivalent to the pits of depravity and vice.

Had 'Nef' been replaced by Excel 10 guy, people would have laughed and gone 'he was stupid and asking for it.' Had it been some seedy criminal type Batarian, people would have gone 'he/she deserved it.' Had it been some terminally ill Elcor artist, people would have been 'meh, he was going to die anyway.'

But a virgin girl! That changes everything.


Had it been some terminally ill Elcor artist, people would have been 'meh, he was going to die anyway.  Actually to me this would have made it more difficult,  than Nef or some random criminal,  particularly if the Elcor knew what they were getting into when they agreed to mate.  If death was eminent,  no way out...  I think that Morinth offers a particularly interesting form of euthanasia...  and if this was her typical way to feed I would ponder if her mother was perhaps the wicked one.

Either way,  I like Morinth,  but I've never managed to delude myself into thinking her motivations are wholy based upon her own self interest.

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I recruited her only once. Mostly because that was the fist time I had enough Ren/Par points to be able to choose, and I had no idea it was even possible, so I was like "no way... have to try this...".

It's also interesting to remember that both can be alive if you fail to get Morinth to take you to her apartment.

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Morinth was one of my favorite characters. I really hope they give you the option of making her a squadmate! =]

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No, she is dead. She always dies in my playthroughs even when I play a renegade character.

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I never recruited Morinth either, even on renegade playthroughs. The only reason to recruit Morinth is just  for the lulz of being an evil ******.

It just doesn't make much sense beyond that. Sure, if you are a renegade Samara may want to kill you after the mission is done, but Morinth wants to murder you as well. The only difference between the two of them is that Morinth wants to climax while murdering you. Pick your poison.

Morinth is also a psychotic while Samara is sane. Jeopardizing the mission by bringing a mentally unstable person aboard the Normandy makes zero sense.

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Han Shot First wrote...

I never recruited Morinth either, even on renegade playthroughs. The only reason to recruit Morinth is just  for the lulz of being an evil ******.

It just doesn't make much sense beyond that. Sure, if you are a renegade Samara may want to kill you after the mission is done, but Morinth wants to murder you as well. The only difference between the two of them is that Morinth wants to climax while murdering you. Pick your poison.

Morinth is also a psychotic while Samara is sane. Jeopardizing the mission by bringing a mentally unstable person aboard the Normandy makes zero sense.

Subject Zero, anyone?

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Recruited her twice - one Shepard thinks Dominate will be valuable addition on a way to humans' dominance and that after "being fed" Morinth will become stronger; another is my version of "worst import".

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Quole wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

I never recruited Morinth either, even on renegade playthroughs. The only reason to recruit Morinth is just  for the lulz of being an evil ******.

It just doesn't make much sense beyond that. Sure, if you are a renegade Samara may want to kill you after the mission is done, but Morinth wants to murder you as well. The only difference between the two of them is that Morinth wants to climax while murdering you. Pick your poison.

Morinth is also a psychotic while Samara is sane. Jeopardizing the mission by bringing a mentally unstable person aboard the Normandy makes zero sense.

Subject Zero, anyone?


Jack has lots of issues and emotional baggage, but she's sane.

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Morinth insane? Nope. Don't think so.