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darthnick427

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Simple topic. Who was better in you opinion?

I prefer Sovereign. Sovereign's voice sent chills down my spine and scared the hell out of me. Harbinger was good but didn't instill the same effect. He's still an excellent reaper tho.

Modifié par darthnick427, 08 juillet 2011 - 05:45 .


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I prefer Sovereign's voice. It sounds more robotic.

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Sovereign was way more haunting and disturbing... However, it has been said that Harbinger is OMGWTFBBQ huge, big enough to make Sovereign look like a pipsqueak, so perhaps he can redeem himself.

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Harbinger in ME2<<<<<<<<<<Harbinger in Arrival<Sovereign

I have hopes for more improvements in ME3.

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ShadowSplicer wrote...

Sovereign was way more haunting and disturbing... However, it has been said that Harbinger is OMGWTFBBQ huge, big enough to make Sovereign look like a pipsqueak, so perhaps he can redeem himself.


Eh, Harbinger and Sovereign have same size.

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 I'd say Harbinger has better lines, though. In part because he has so many and Sovereign has so few, but still...

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Mesina2 wrote...

ShadowSplicer wrote...

Sovereign was way more haunting and disturbing... However, it has been said that Harbinger is OMGWTFBBQ huge, big enough to make Sovereign look like a pipsqueak, so perhaps he can redeem himself.


Eh, Harbinger and Sovereign have same size.

We've never actually seen him, so we have no way of knowing. But I do remember a BioWare Dev making some comment about it, it was early on, before E3 even.

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Don't Reapers all have different sizes?

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I prefer Sovereign. He was just thousands time more badarse.

Modifié par ADelusiveMan, 08 juillet 2011 - 05:54 .


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ShadowSplicer wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

ShadowSplicer wrote...

Sovereign was way more haunting and disturbing... However, it has been said that Harbinger is OMGWTFBBQ huge, big enough to make Sovereign look like a pipsqueak, so perhaps he can redeem himself.


Eh, Harbinger and Sovereign have same size.

We've never actually seen him, so we have no way of knowing. But I do remember a BioWare Dev making some comment about it, it was early on, before E3 even.


Reapers are 500 meters to 2 kilometers long, Sovereign is 2 kilometers long.

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ADelusiveMan wrote...

I prefer Sovereign. He was just thousands time more badarse.


and he was the vanguard of your destruction! XD

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Harby if only for the puns. ^_^

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Sovereign had the better voice out of the two but Harbinger was actually the more effective/active villain.

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littlezack wrote...

 I'd say Harbinger has better lines, though. In part because he has so many and Sovereign has so few, but still...


Harbinger had more lines but what little we heard from Soveriegn was pure gold. He really made you feel like an ant among gods. "You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it."

Harbinger's most epic speech was in arrival

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Bogsnot1

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Soveriegn = Evil Overlord
Harby = Smack talkin gangsta wannabee.

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InvaderErl wrote...

Sovereign had the better voice out of the two but Harbinger was actually the more effective/active villain.


I will agree to this but that was only because Soveriegn was working through Saren and Harbinger was the literal voice of the Collector general as he constantly loved to point out by ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!!! XD

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Sovreign. By about 8 billion miles.

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InvaderErl

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darthnick427 wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Sovereign had the better voice out of the two but Harbinger was actually the more effective/active villain.


I will agree to this but that was only because Soveriegn was working through Saren and Harbinger was the literal voice of the Collector general as he constantly loved to point out by ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!!! XD


Well I meant moreso that Sovereign constantly seemed to be on the defensive when it came to Shepard whereas Harbinger launches no less than 3 attempts (that almost all do the job) to stop Shepard.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:02 .


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Well Sovereign is dead so it sort of a mute point about who is better now.

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InvaderErl wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Sovereign had the better voice out of the two but Harbinger was actually the more effective/active villain.


I will agree to this but that was only because Soveriegn was working through Saren and Harbinger was the literal voice of the Collector general as he constantly loved to point out by ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!!! XD


Well I meant moreso that Sovereign constantly seemed to be on the defensive when it came to Shepard whereas Harbinger launches no less than 3 attempts (that almost all do the job) to stop Shepard.


Well that was mostly because Soveriegn never considered Shepard a real threat. He just went along with his plans with the assumption nothing could stop him.

Harbinger knew exactly who his major threat was and sent the Collector ship to waste his arse. Had soveriegn truely considered him a threat he probably would have sent a fleet of geth after the Normandy

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Sovereign was more intimidating, Harbringer seems like a pushover but maybe it`s because we have defeated a reaper already and all of Harbringers threats seem like jokes now.

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Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Well Sovereign is dead so it sort of a mute point about who is better now.


I know i just wanted people to say who they liked better. I don't expect a Soveriegn resurection. Harby is plenty good for me

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Nazara all the way...

"Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything."

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darthnick427 wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Sovereign had the better voice out of the two but Harbinger was actually the more effective/active villain.


I will agree to this but that was only because Soveriegn was working through Saren and Harbinger was the literal voice of the Collector general as he constantly loved to point out by ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!!! XD


Well I meant moreso that Sovereign constantly seemed to be on the defensive when it came to Shepard whereas Harbinger launches no less than 3 attempts (that almost all do the job) to stop Shepard.


Well that was mostly because Soveriegn never considered Shepard a real threat. He just went along with his plans with the assumption nothing could stop him.

Harbinger knew exactly who his major threat was and sent the Collector ship to waste his arse. Had soveriegn truely considered him a threat he probably would have sent a fleet of geth after the Normandy



Sure but it still leaves Sovereign in the position of defender whereas Harbinger is directly confronting Shepard throughout the game.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:12 .


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I think Sovereign sounded much better; when I first heard harbinger in the launch trailer I thought he sounded cheesy. Sovereign was way more sinister, and was revealed in a more dramatic way- that room on Virmire, was oddly haunting.

That's not to say that harbinger doesn't have great story potential (i.e. realising he was just controlling a collector.) but on the whole, he's just annoying more than anything else. I think the fear element of reapers works because they're hardly present.

Hopefully ME3 won't make reapers seem weak, i'm already worried about the fact that they're going to be everywhere...