O Tucker wrote...
Sovereign took out half of our fleet...Harbinger sounds so cool and scary but so did Sovereign and he did say “We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.”
Modifié par IEatWhatIPoo, 09 juillet 2011 - 03:50 .
The Spamming Troll wrote...
if we didnt know soverigns intetnions, then hed be no different then harbinger. i see it as biowares way of telling the story to the player, not really a way in making soverign dumb for revealing his plans.
Il Divo wrote...
The Spamming Troll wrote...
if we didnt know soverigns intetnions, then hed be no different then harbinger. i see it as biowares way of telling the story to the player, not really a way in making soverign dumb for revealing his plans.
Then it's bad story-telling. Find a way to make it fit within the context of the game. In Sovereign's case, he's telling us that the Reapers are beyond our understanding, but effectively he's gloating about how superior he is to us.
Modifié par Fhaileas, 09 juillet 2011 - 04:28 .
Fhaileas wrote...
Not bad story-tellling at all -- the reveal was very well done and was utterly unexpected.
Soverign didn't seem to be gloating (it's voice was emotionless) as stating facts (as it knew them) to an insignificant creature it had taken a curious interest in.
Modifié par Il Divo, 09 juillet 2011 - 04:39 .
He still had to dispose the beacon, making sure nobody got suspicious through the visions. So Saren and Sovereign needed an excuse to get it destroyed. No one was supposed to survive the attack and live to tell the tale. It got screwed up because a certain ship just happened to be in the vicinity at the moment, aka the Normandy.littlezack wrote...
I think Harbinger better understands the importance of subtlety. Sovereign tends towards major actions that draw unneeded attention towards himself. Attacking Eden Prime, for instance, drew the attention of the Alliance, but all Saren needed to do was access the beacon - he could have used his status as a Spectre to get close to it, or just snuck in. They didn't even know what the thing was, so it wouldn't have alerted that much of attention. At least not as much sending in a small army of geth and slaughtering every human in the way.
Modifié par Mister Mida, 09 juillet 2011 - 04:43 .
Modifié par littlezack, 09 juillet 2011 - 04:48 .
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IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
O Tucker wrote...
Sovereign took out half of our fleet...Harbinger sounds so cool and scary but so did Sovereign and he did say “We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.”
The Alliance only lost 8 cruisers in that battle, and some were from the Geth. Sovereign isn't as much of a badass as people are painting him to be.
Rattlehead424 wrote...
"We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure. "
"Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident. Your lives are measured in years and decades. You wither and die. We are eternal, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything."
Sovereign had some of the best quotes .
Maybe Sovereign didn't want to take that risk someone else besides Saren would receive the vision.littlezack wrote...
Destroying the beacon was actually pretty unnecessary, though. If someone just accessed the beacons, they might have learned about the Reapers, but they wouldn't have had any idea about Sovereign's current plans. At the very least, they wouldn't have been able to connect the dots in time to stop him. Attacking Eden Prime got the immediate attention of the Alliance and made Saren a target.
And that's assuming that just anybody can get the visions. I'm sure Manuel wasn't the only person to get near the beacon, but he was the only person on Eden Prime who seemed to experience it.
Priximus wrote...
sovereign or harbinger? they are both bad ass and both had awesome speeches but there is a diffrence in the the voices Sovereigns were darker and add awesome dark music to that it gives another impretion than one who has a little lighter voice but without the awesome music it dont reach that content the 1st thing did. so my oppinion is that they are both awesome but that harbinger didnt get the same dark influencing inviroment ass sovereign wich makes an comparasment of these two completly unfair.
, Harbinger grew on me much, much more and I wouldn't switch him and his 
Modifié par Varen Spectre, 09 juillet 2011 - 05:35 .
Modifié par darthnick427, 09 juillet 2011 - 05:59 .
Il Divo wrote...
If a creature is insignificant, I typically do not take time to acknowledge its existence. There was no purpose in Sovereign revealing to Shepard his existence, or that the Reapers had built the relays. He's basically there to tell us that the Reapers are better/more advanced than us, which fits in very well with gloating.
E-MailA.K.A.Mr.Fox wrote...
I always like the idea that every Reaper has their own role to play, not just following "Big Bad Ass" leader.... oh well..
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