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[JockBuster]

Based on Pacifien's  NO biotics & no cerberus playthrough, except that I like Jack & Samara, Jacob is ok (maybe return to the Alliance?)


6 Options for MIranda Lawson
ML#1 = NL Resigns Cerberus & Dies @ Reaper
ML#2 = NL Dies HtL
ML#3 = NL survives HtL, but still loyal to Cerberus
ML#4 = NL survives HtL, but still loyal to Cerberus, regain her Loyalty AFTER SM (req 2 post SM dialogues)
ML#5 = Loyal to Shepard but Resigns Cerberus @ Reaper
ML#6 = Loyal to Shepard but does not resign Cerberus  while HtL


I play as a Sentinel on the Xbox. The following is based on the dialogue and who pulls Shepard onto the Normandy. The SAVES allow you to go back and make changes. IF you are really through, you could do 12 total for one Shepard, 6 StB and 6 BUtB. Save #1 saves you from having to replay the entire game just to get to the SM.

NO:devil:, I do this for the dialgoue and yes my imports for ME3. Have FUN 



Talent points:
Ammo Powers; Shepard Heavy Warp, Grunt Inferno, Jack Warp, Garrus Squad AP
Miranda: 0 Overload, 4 Heavy Warp, 4 Cerberus Leader (squad + 7.5% health, + 15% weapons), 4 Heavy Slam
Shepard; Power Armor (+15%) and Amplifier plates +5 power & Visor 10% headshot (shoot the eyes!)
Grunt: 2 Concussive Shot, 4 Inferno, 4 Warlord, 3 Fortification
Jack: 4 Heavy Shockwave, 4 Pull Field, 2 Adept, 3 Warp Ammo
Garrus: 4 Heavy Concussive Shot, 0 Overload, 4 Turian Renegade, 4 Squad AP
Mordin: 4 heavy Incinerate, 0 Cryo Blast, 4 Salarian Genius, 4 Neural Shockwave
Legion: 2 AI Hacking, 4 Attack Drone, 4 Geth Sniper, 3 Geth Shield boost
Jacob: 4 Pull Field, 1 Incendiary, 4 Cerberus, 4 Heavy Barrier


Final Squad mates: Garrus, Grunt, Jack, Jacob, Legion, Mordin, Samara, Tali & Zaeed
ME3 Squad mates: confirmed as of 7/7/11 IF they survived ME1 & ME2
Permanent; Garrus, Liara, Tali, James Vega, VS , and ?; note 4 are from ME1
Temporary; Legion, Mordin, Wrex (ME1)
UNknown status: Grunt, Jack, Jacob, Samara, Thane & Zaeed
Miranda Lawson ? Casey Hudson is NOT talking, but something MAJOR!


Cerberus: Crew dead; Miranda?
Loyalty: Gain ALL, but loose Miranda's
Normandy Upgrades: Armor, "keep Jack alive" & Thanix Cannon
Normandy Upgrades post SM: CBT Shields, Probes, Argus Scanner
Chakwas & Crew: Dr. Chakwas survives, Cerberus crew DEAD


Before the Omega-4 Relay:
feed the fish
delete ALL manual saves so that SAVE #1 is on the SB Base or Omega
-Loose Miranda's loyalty by siding with Jack; note, a Loyal Miranda can NOT die ever.
-Resolve the Tali/Legion argument, get both loyalties
-note! Legion has 7 different dialogues in the AI core
-Delay passing through the Omega-4 relay to get the Cerberus crew killed


Omega 4 Relay and space battle


Squad Mate’s Armor; Enter the Base, Arc Projector, SAVE #2 & Reload;
Bubble DIE, Arc Projector, don't move & Reload
Vents - Thane (dies) - SAVE #3 before valve 8 (option to change Escort)
Fire Team Leader - Jack (just to see Miranda's reaction & Shepard's dirty looks!)
Biotic Bubble; Samara (Grunt & Mordin), don't move & Die, Reload; after Scon & Husks SAVE#4
Second Fire Team Leader - Non-Loyal Miranda (lives)
Hold the Line:
Who reports: Thane -> Jack -> Garrus -> Legion -> Grunt -> Jacob -> Samara -> Mordin -> Tali
To hear a specific character speak all characters to the LEFT must be someplace else; dead, escort or reaper
Who pulls Shepard onto the Normandy


#1S - Escort = Garrus / Final boss squad mates = Grunt & Jack
Distraction Team - Legion, Jacob, Mordin, Samara, Tali, Zaeed = 1.86 NL ML dies
#2S - Escort = Jack with Final boss squad mates = Garrus & Legion
Distraction Team - Grunt, Jacob, Mordin, Samara, Tali, Zaeed = 2.14 NL ML lives
Grunt’s line is different than if he is NL and holding the line alone or +1
#3S - Escort = Mordin or Tali with Final boss squad mates = Grunt & Jack
Distraction Team - Garrus, Jacob, Legion, Samara, Tali or Mordin, Zaeed = 2.26 NL ML lives
#4S - Escort = Jack with Final boss squad mates = Grunt & NL Miranda, resigns Cerberus & dies
Distraction Team - Garrus, Jacob, Legion, Mordin, Samara, Tali, Zaeed


Deaths, before landing
Morinth- decapitated
Kasumi dies, no CBT Shields; BOTH Gray boxes recovered on the Normandy for the Alliance
Deaths, after landing
Thane - Died by rocket to face; terminally ill
Miranda - Lives or Dies holding the line or at the Reaper


After Action Debrief:
Upgrade Normandy
Feed the fish
Talk to everyone including  Joker, Dr. Chakwas & EDI in the AI Core; EXCEPT: Jack, Kasumi, Thane & Zaeed, they have nothing to say about SM.
Blow Up the Base (BUtB): Everyone says that you “did the RIGHT thing!” Jacob "what a way to quit and now Cerberus is after your tail..."
Save the Base (StB) : Everyone says you are; “WEAK!”, “an idiot”, “don’t use it”, “Cerberus can’t be trusted!”

Modifié par JockBuster, 08 juillet 2011 - 05:52 .

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I really had no idea that there's that much variation to her ending status, I assumed dead or not dead would be the only conditional for her to be in the 3rd game, with minor dialog differences based on doing her loyalty mission. Are there gaming flags that are saved that indicate these options, that'll possibly be imported to a new game, or are these just the only options you think are viable for her character in the 3rd game?

[JockBuster]

I personally have no idea. Like I said this started when I wanted Grunt to pull Shepard onto the Normandy and hear is lines when he holds the line, and just kinna 'blossomed' from there. I'm kinna surprised that no one else has mentioned anything like this; typically they either love Miranda or hate her personality (my take).

I hope that BW has realized what they have created!

It's just from playing the game tooooooo many times, you can do that when you're retired and become 'obsessed" with Mass Effect. This method also saves having to replay the entire game IF you want to try a different outcome or make a mistake with the SM. It does NOT correct any dialogue choice errors (mis-speaks) or Paragon/Renegade options, for THAT you get to replay the whole game and maybe start over with ME1 (trust me I've done that toooo many times too).