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[ubermensch007]

The Adventure -- The Mission -- that the 1st Human Spectre and Company embarked upon in Mass Effect 1 began in 2183 and ended in 2183.

In Mass Effect 2, (2185) once again Shepard Commander is able to resolve a great conflict in less than a year's time.

Should Mass Effect 3 continue in this vain? I think not.The Racchni Wars lasted for nearly 300 years! The Krogan Rebellions -- Nearly a Full Century... Are we to truly believe that somehow - someway - Commander Shepard and Co. are going to find a way to defeat an enemy of greater intelligence and martial power than any threat that has come before?! Again I state... I Think Not!
You know what would be great: that in ME3 public relations plays a great role;) Think about it, Shep is an icon, a living legend, admired and renown across the galaxy.He is already known for resolving difficult matters swiftly and decisively.But this time around he is not able to deliver the kind of instant gratification that his adoring public has come to expect from him.Some will begin to question whether he can deliver at all.How might this play on his confidence and public support.

In ancient Greek Mythology it is said that The Great War betwixt the Olympian & Titan Gods raged for ten long years.

The great human war, the Trojan War parallels this.It also was a 10 year war.

If Mass Effect 3 attempts to resolve such a complex - difficult galaxy spanning conflict in a similar amount of time frame that JK Rowling prescibed for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.I will throw my ME 3 game disc out the EFF-ING window! Before I read the seventh book in that series, I was pretty confident that it would be years before Harry,  Ron and Hermione found and destroyed all of the Dark Lord's Horcruxes and managed to overthrow the power and influence of his Deatheaters in the Ministry of Magic.  Nope!! Harry Potter and his Scooby Gang not only managed to find and destroy all Lord Voldemort's Horcruxexs they also defeated all his Deatheaters and Reformed the MOM in less than one Hogwarts full school year <_<

I find the Trailers to ME 3 to be very misleading.We know from Vigil (The VI on Illos) that when the Reaper Fleet begins there Invasion of the Milky Way Galaxy, it takes years , decades, centuries even, before they finish their work and return to dark space.

You know what would be cool in Mass Effect 3.If Shepard actually ages over the course of the game.He began this adventure in his thirties it should end with him in his forties.We know characters like Miranda can live twice as long as a normal human.Salarians not so much.So it would be sad to see Dr. Mordin Solus die of old age before the Reaper War is resolved, but it would be believable, that something like that could happen.The Asari and Krogan of course are incredibly long living species.Quarians longevity seem to be about the same as ours, Turians too.

For some reason when I think of Mass Effect 3, I can't get Morpheus Bad Ass Speech in The Matrix Reloaded out of my head.It just fits ME 3 so well.

MORPHEUS: Zion, hear me! It is true, what many of you have heard. The machines have gathered an army and as I speak, that army is drawing nearer to our home. Believe me when I say we have a difficult time ahead of us. But if we are to be prepared for it, we must first shed our fear of it. I stand here, before you now, truthfully unafraid.

Why? Because I believe something you do not? No, I stand here without fear because I remember. I remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me but because of the path that lies behind me. I remember that for 100 years we have fought these machines. I remember that for 100 years they have sent their armies to destroy us, and after a century of war I remember that which matters most...We are still here!

Tonight, let us send a message to that army. Tonight, let us shake this cave. Tonight, let us tremble these halls of
earth, steel, and stone, let us be heard from red core to black sky. Tonight, let us make them remember, this is Zion and we are not afraid.

www.youtube.com/watch

In the Mass Effect Universe: humanity has had a meteoric rise to the best seats at the table.The War with the Reapers however is a War of Attrition.I have a saying, "Patience may be a virtue, but time is precious." While there is definetly a 'sense of urgency' involved concerning the Fall of Earth.If the Resistance makes the same mistake as Lord Sauron did in Return of the King, by going into battle to early.All may be lost.
I would rather hear Commander Shepard give a speech like Morpheus

Than here Harbinger gloating over his corspe...

Modifié par ubermensch007, 22 juillet 2011 - 05:28 .

[Han Shot First]

It will be a short war, as it should.

In a long slog galactic civilizations don't stand a chance. They are suffering millions of casualties per day and their homeworlds are being pounded into dust, with their means to resist weakening daily. The longer the war drags on the less likely it is that the galaxy can pull off the mother of all upsets.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 08 juillet 2011 - 09:21 .

[Captain Crash]

Depends how long I spend looking out the window on the Citadel or drinking drinks in Afterlife 



But in all seriousness it will be short.  The ending wont be satisfying unless you take them all out in a swift blow. A long drawn out war of attrition doesnt really fit.  Plus it wouldnt be that entertaining gameplay wise.  

[ThePwener]

30-40 gaming hours.

Kidding, it will probably take the same as the first two games.

ME1: 3-5 months

ME2 (all story DLC included): 1 year

I see it ending between 1 to 2 years at maximun. Also, I think Shepard can't age and stuff. Plus, right here in the forums it was said by one of the devs that the game will have "some kind" of post ending gameplay. Me and some others saw it months ago so [please] don't make me look for it.

Modifié par ThePwener, 08 juillet 2011 - 11:30 .

[CroGamer002]

Shorter it is, better for Earth.

[ThePwener]

Mesina2 wrote...

Shorter it is, better for Earth.

Exactly. Shepard returns to Earth at the end of the game and I saw the comparison pics and it was still in fire, so I say only a few months at most could have gone by.

[CroGamer002]

Arcian wrote...

One game.

Seriously, we need a definitive ending to the Reaper arc.

Well I'm thinking that there should be remnants of Reaper army( husks, husk-avatars and Cerberus) and at least 1 Reaper( but heavily damaged) left.

They wouldn't be much of the threat, not even near in trilogy, but still some remnants trying to come back and going with guerrilla and terrorist attacks.

[CroGamer002]

ThePwener wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Shorter it is, better for Earth.

Exactly. Shepard returns to Earth at the end of the game and I saw the comparison pics and it was still in fire, so I say only a few months at most could have gone by.

Eh, that's during the attack picture.

We still have no idea how will Earth look like way after attack.
I think war will take 1 to 2 years.

[Candidate 88766]

The reason it takes them decades or longer is that even if they can wipe out all the main worlds in a matter of days, weeks or even months there were still be small colonies scattered throughout the galaxy. Fleets will flee into the space between systems to escape the Reapers, and so the Reapers must track down and destroy every single one. Then they have to cover up all traces of their existence. They essentially have to search every single planet to ensure there is nothing left, and given that the number of planets seen in ME1/ME2 covers less than 1% of the galaxy, and the Reapers have to go around the entire galaxy, the process taking decades isn't unreasonable.

Any war would likely be won in a fraction of that time. In a matter on months, maybe even weeks, it is unlikely there would be much military might left to face the Reapers and at the point any war would be over. Its the clean up essentially that takes them so long.

The war part for ME3 wouldn't take more than a few months at most. After that there wouldn't be enough left for organic life to stage a counter-attack, and so at that point any war is over. I imagine ME3 will take place over the shortest time period of any of the ME games, but thats a good thing - if it covered several years you'd have to wonder what the Reapers were doing for all that time.

[Majin Paul]

I'm open to both long and short, I'd find it strange if it was finished in a year though since we have no idea how to defeat the reaper army.

[Candidate 88766]

Mesina2 wrote...

Arcian wrote...

One game.

Seriously, we need a definitive ending to the Reaper arc.

Well I'm thinking that there should be remnants of Reaper army( husks, husk-avatars and Cerberus) and at least 1 Reaper( but heavily damaged) left.

They wouldn't be much of the threat, not even near in trilogy, but still some remnants trying to come back and going with guerrilla and terrorist attacks.

We have been promised an end to the Shepard/Reaper arc and so if we defeat the Reapers they should be entirely defeated. Even if the end of the game is some kind of cinematic showing Reapers being hunted and destroyed over several years after the war is won, they all need to be destroyed. Otherwise it just feels like a cop-out ending leading into sequels. 

[CroGamer002]

^Even in Star Wars, Empire is not completely defeated, but aren't able to do any major attack on Republic.

But I'm thinking of making Reapers way more weaker, so that they're not main part of future Mass Effect games that take place after ME3.

[Majin Paul]

Mesina2 wrote...

^Even in Star Wars, Empire is not completely defeated, but aren't able to do any major attack on Republic.

But I'm thinking of making Reapers way more weaker, so that they're not main part of future Mass Effect games that take place after ME3.

I think doing that would cheapen the reapers, they're meant to be the ultimate threat and making them weaker after the story would cheapen the idea of being as strong as they were.

[OmegaXI]

Theres always the chance that the reapers are not completly defeated only driven back or held at bay

[ThePwener]

OmegaXI wrote...

Theres always the chance that the reapers are not completly defeated only driven back or held at bay

They do that and Im gonna be angry. I definetly won't buy ME4 if that's the case. The Reapers are part of Shepard's story, not anyone else's.

[Shifty Assassin]

ONE FULL hour

[CroGamer002]

Majin Paul wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Even in Star Wars, Empire is not completely defeated, but aren't able to do any major attack on Republic.

But I'm thinking of making Reapers way more weaker, so that they're not main part of future Mass Effect games that take place after ME3.

I think doing that would cheapen the reapers, they're meant to be the ultimate threat and making them weaker after the story would cheapen the idea of being as strong as they were.

You kick their asses in ME3, hopefully.

Also this time Council takes steps on Reaper threat, even if is not very big.

[CroGamer002]

ThePwener wrote...

OmegaXI wrote...

Theres always the chance that the reapers are not completly defeated only driven back or held at bay

They do that and Im gonna be angry. I definetly won't buy ME4 if that's the case. The Reapers are part of Shepard's story, not anyone else's.

Why are Reapers only part of Shepard's story?

In novels there was no Shepard, but Reapers were.

[Zall]

ubermensch007 wrote...

You know what would be cool in Mass Effect 3.If Shepard actually ages over the course of the game.He began this adventure in his thirties it should end with him in his forties.

Big Ben: "2 million dead in the first day... another 7 million during the first week."

We don't have the numbers to support a war that long. In 5 years of war the entire galaxy would be left in ruins and only few races would survive at all. If you want a game series which stretches over 10-20 years you'd have to check out Assassin's Creed 2 or DA2. Not Mass Effect.

[OmegaXI]

Mesina2 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

OmegaXI wrote...

Theres always the chance that the reapers are not completly defeated only driven back or held at bay

They do that and Im gonna be angry. I definetly won't buy ME4 if that's the case. The Reapers are part of Shepard's story, not anyone else's.

Why are Reapers only part of Shepard's story?

In novels there was no Shepard, but Reapers were.

The Reapers are major part of the Mass Effect Lore. They are not just part of Shepard's story they are part of the Mass Effect series as a whole. Besides with the reapers in the picture it gives the Races of the ME universe a common enemy and a reason to stand together rather than being at each other throats so to speak.

ME3 storyline seems to be along the path of uniting the galxy and reclaiming the Earth. Also the Reaper have been built up to such a point that completely wiping them out in ME3 seems unlikely (but the game is not realsed yet so I could be wrong). Also didn't Casey Hudson say that ME3 is the beginning of the war, so the Reaper War itself may last along time. I feel if the Reapers suffer a major defeat in ME3 then they would most likely pull back and regroup, but the war would continue.

I mean look at Dragon Age, the Darkspawn were defeated but they are still there as a lightning rod for everyone to unite againist for the most part. Again I say I do not know how the game will be played out story and lore wise.

[Kaiser Shepard]

It'll probably be as long as the Fifth Blight.

Personally I would've preferred it if they had just dropped the Collector plot and have the Reapers start their invasion in the second game, as I feel the scale of such a conflict isn't fit for just one game.

[I am the Harbinger of your perfection]

i was asking myself the same question earlier
as i can see it a winnable war for the organics will only be open for 6 - 12 months anymore than that and the casulties will be to many and with recruits running out, the war with the reapers will be lost

that said the reapers must not be allowed to get eradicted however they are to powerful
perhaps they can use the small reapers with a few big ones to fight the organics whil they pull back to dark space and lick there wounds planning to get revange sometime in the future when the reapers are written of as a myth

[sael_feman]

Ooh at lease 45 hours of gameplay.

Modifié par sael_feman, 08 juillet 2011 - 03:25 .

[gunswordfist]

In reality it should take longer be we all know the game will be within a weeks time span