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[conrad winkles]

I've played ME1 and ME2 and i don't ever remember joker thanking Shepherd for saving him in ME2. Ungrateful. Still like joker but still YOUR WELCOME 

[Youknow]

No, he doesn't. Personally I would have punched him as hard as I could when I met him. All those broken bones would be heaven in comparison to what I felt from getting destroyed because of him. That would have been "thanks" enough for me.

[KawaiiKatie]

I think Joker pulled Shepard's butt out of the fire enough times that maybe he felt entitled to a little bit of sacrifice on Shepard's part.

[RhiPanda]

Yeah, Joker is one of my favourite characters but this has ALWAYS bugged me, I think it should be brought up in ME3

[AngelicMachinery]

Joker doesn't seem to be the type to say "Thank you" or "Sorry."

[ReallyRue]

Maybe Shepard could point it out in ME3? It seems like good conversation material.

[Ahriman]

I don't blame him. Such thing would be very weird to say.
J: Ahem, sorry for that ... episode.
S: Oh, don't worry about that. I would die sometime after all.

[Ragnarok521]

That little bit is some missed potential for character development for both Joker and Shepard. I'd imagine that renegade Shepards would be pissed that they lost two years of their life due to Jokers' actions while paragons would be more forgiving. This could have helped create an atmosphere aboard the Normandy that a "dark second act" should have.

Modifié par Ragnarok521, 08 juillet 2011 - 03:38 .

[Addai]

I was a little disappointed at the re-meeting with Joker in ME2, as well. I thought there should have at least been some acknowledgement that he was the last person to see her alive, and technically the reason she died.

[Dariustwinblade]

For godsake Joker was the last person I want to see. Among my most hated ME char Joker is no.1 I wanted to shoot him the moment I saw him. How could TIM think I would trust him is beyond me.


1. Joker
2. Both the Varmire Surviour

Ppl complain Liara can't be killed I complain as to why Joker can't be killed.

[RhiPanda]

You need Joker to fly your ship

[ashlover mark 2]

can we really blame joker for shepards death?at first seeing when the **** hit the fan in ME2s story because of me going back to get joker (dieing,working for cerberus,the alliance and the council not trusting me anymore ash upset that i was working for TIM) i really wanted to leave him behind and let him fry with the ship in my second playthrough.

but the more i thought about its really shepards fault more.in that type of crisis situation your supposed to do the smart thing (which was to evacuate the ship) shepard knew what the smart thing was but instead he chose to trek through a bunrning ship to get ONE crew member who was going to die,now as heroic as that may be shepards death is his own fault.

you deceide to be a hero in a life and death situation no matter the outcome good or bad  you live with the consqences.in this case shepard tryed to be a hero one to many times and got killed.

joker was being dumb.....but it was shepard who decided to go back for him.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 08 juillet 2011 - 04:39 .

[RhiPanda]

Maybe Joker felt too uncomfortable/guilty to thank Shep or even bring it up?

Modifié par RhiPanda, 08 juillet 2011 - 05:51 .

[Ananka]

I think it should at least be referenced in ME3. He must have some feelings about the whole thing. After all, Shepard wouldn't have died if she hadn't gone back for him. A thanks WOULD be nice.
On the other hand, Joker saving Shepard a countless amount of time is his job. We don't give medals to soldiers for doing their job

[Addai]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...
joker was being dumb.....but it was shepard who decided to go back for him.

The captain goes down with the ship.  It's appropriate, but I don't mean I wanted to tell him off.  It just felt odd that there was no acknowledgement of what happened at all.  Joker's a little too into that ship, to the point that it's all he thinks about.

[TheMakoMaster]

Addai67 wrote...

The captain goes down with the ship.

^^
yup

[ashlover mark 2]

a "thanks for saveing me shepard" is completley appropriate seeing as shepard did save his brittle ass.

sooo yea another missed chance to add any depth to any of the ME2 charecters.

how did bioware miss so many of these things?

[RhiPanda]

InviolateNK wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...
joker was being dumb.....but it was shepard who decided to go back for him.

The captain goes down with the ship.  It's appropriate, but I don't mean I wanted to tell him off.  It just felt odd that there was no acknowledgement of what happened at all.  Joker's a little too into that ship, to the point that it's all he thinks about.

Joker can go down with the ship if he's so into it. Nobody's gonna cry over him too long. Just leave Shepard out of it

Yeah but he didn't ask Shep to go save him Shep did that him/herself, so not really his fault:whistle:

[baddogkelevra]

Well I'm glad a few of your aren't at my back in a crisis. People in life or death situations often rise to the occasion to do heroic things, and Shepard is by no means stupid for trying to save a pilot who had helped him countless times. He is a good leader for risking (and giving) his life to help save his crew, and honestly Joker is a punk for not saying anything about it. My Renegade Shepard wanted to punch that snide b****** in the face after that.

[ashlover mark 2]

baddogkelevra wrote...

Well I'm glad a few of your aren't at my back in a crisis. People in life or death situations often rise to the occasion to do heroic things, and Shepard is by no means stupid for trying to save a pilot who had helped him countless times. He is a good leader for risking (and giving) his life to help save his crew, and honestly Joker is a punk for not saying anything about it. My Renegade Shepard wanted to punch that snide b****** in the face after that.

dont think anyone here said shepard was stupid,or a bad leader.sure saveing joker was very heroic.it just got him killed.thats the problem with being a hero in life and death situations.
what i was saying is that i dont think it was jokers fault like a few others here stated.shepard makes his own descions,only he him self is really at fault for his own death (other than the collecters of course) beacuse he knew there was a good chance he wasnt going to make it if he stayed to get joker.
joker shares no real fault in shepards death.


but joker should have said thank you to shepard.that however is biowares fault for not including this in the game.

[RhiPanda]

InviolateNK wrote...

If he's romanceable in ME 3 my Shep will break his heart

=O how could you:crying: that would just be so sad, you monster!