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I love Anime.

But NOT for Mass Effect.Though ME has elements of cyberpunk here and there, it is solidly an old school Western Space Opera. The Animatrix suited the Asian concepts and views on technology espoused in the matrix's philosophy as well as the martial arts. I think it doesn't suit ME really. I'm against the idea.

Pity the Animatrix was the only good thing to come out of those sequels. They make baby jesus cry otherwise.


I disagree. My favorite part of The Animatrix was the part that I linked in my previous post: The Second Renaissance.
That part doesn't have martial arts or anything Japanese, it's 100% cold bloody and horrible warfare against the machines. When I watched The Seond Renaissance again when I posted my previous comment, I couldn't help but thinking how awesome it would be to see something similar with Mass Effect, the humans v.s the reapers.



I also meant general Asian philosophies on the soul, machines, yadda yadda yadda. The repeated lotus flower imagery, bla bla. This would work with the Geth angle, hell it would kinda be an obvious retread but the whole idea of the Matrix was a recycling of oriental culture to a Western marketplace joining it with Christo-Judaic ideas. Have some good articles on the subject if you want to read them...though if you're really nice you won't since I'm a very lazy man! :D

Just think that Mass Effect has more in common with say Star Trek and BG than GitS...Don't mention Akira though (shudder)


Yes I know and I'm well aware that The Matrix in general is a hybrid between western culture and eastern traditions. But my point was is that an anime like The Second Renaissance (Part 2) would also work for (mostly) pure western sci-fi series such as Mass Effect. The style of The Second Renaissance didn't have anything particular Japanese in it, except for the colorful V.I narrator with her lotus and everything.


Now that you mentioned the geth, I think it would be an amazing idea to include an animation about the geth uprising against the quarians in the Mass Effect anime (if indeed such an anime would be made). Seeing how the geth turned against the quarians would be pretty similar to The Animatrix where you see how the machines turned against the humans. As a matter of fact, the story is EXACTLY 100% the same (including the first self-aware robot asking his human master if it has a soul).

I would also love to see something from the First Contact war, the rachni war and the krogan rebellion.


Now I think of it, an anime about the history of Mass Effect would be AWESOME! I would LOVE to see some animations of how humans joined the galactic civilisation, including the the expedition on Mars and later the First Contact war.

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It'd probably be amazing if Studio Ghibli did it. Their stuff rivals Pixar.

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EA and Bioware are really milking the Mass Effect series for everything it's worth aren't they?

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It'd probably be amazing if Studio Ghibli did it. Their stuff rivals Pixar.


I don't think studio Ghibli is into sci-fi. I've seen almost all their anime-movies and I LOVED them all, but none of them are sci-fi or even close to sci-fi. Maybe Laputa Castle in the Sky but I think that movie was more steam-punk than sci-fi.

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It'd probably be amazing if Studio Ghibli did it. Their stuff rivals Pixar.


I don't think studio Ghibli is into sci-fi. I've seen almost all their anime-movies and I LOVED them all, but none of them are sci-fi or even close to sci-fi. Maybe Laputa Castle in the Sky but I think that movie was more steam-punk than sci-fi.


Maybe if it was episodic they could do one episode. They could focus their episode on things they're comfortable with, like one civilization on one planet without going into things like FTL travel or Reapers. Something they'd probably love to do is the impact of the nuclear war on Tuchanka, since they love their environmentalism. If anyone could pull it off, it'd be them.

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I disagree. My favorite part of The Animatrix was the part that I linked in my previous post: The Second Renaissance.
That part doesn't have martial arts or anything Japanese, it's 100% cold bloody and horrible warfare against the machines. When I watched The Seond Renaissance again when I posted my previous comment, I couldn't help but thinking how awesome it would be to see something similar with Mass Effect, the humans v.s the reapers.

I love the Second Renaissance, but goddamn it's disturbing.

What I would personally like to see is an anime depiction of the fall of the protheans, narrated by Vigil. That would be insanely cool.


We could also get the same thing with Geth Rebellion.

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agreed i rather they make a mass effect cgi movie
than anime
i don't want to see people in mass effect have ridiculous hair, and big eyes *no offense to anime lovers*

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Not all anime are drawn like Dragon Ball Z.

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The movie being made by Legendary Pictures is anime-style, apparently

Did I miss something? I thought Funimation was doing the anime.

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Anime isn't poorly drawn. Good anime/manga is often more detailed than your average western-style cartoon. If it's that big of a deal...I don't know, don't buy the anime if they should actually happen to create ME-related anime? Avert your eyes? Build a fallout shelter in your backyard and hide?

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 It depends on the anime and the artistic direction they go in. 
Most people assume (when they hear the word "anime") that the characters are going to have large eyes, the dialog is going to be awkward or the tone will be poorly executed, and that everyone has to wear cat ears. etc. etc. When that isn't the case. There are plenty of good examples of anime that could fit the Mass Effect world.

Also, Bioware used the first Final Fantasy movie as inspiration for the artistic direction they went in. Then you have anime like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Blue Submarine No. 6 and Tekkonkinkreet which proves that things like sci-fi / cyberpunk can be executed elegantly. 
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Honestly, anime looks a LOT better than the western crap of today.

Compare the cartoons from Japan with shows from Cartoon Network... ugh.

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i just hope mass effect's story doesnt get animefied if it does get turned into an anime. Meet John Shepard, 17, all he wanted was to have a normal highschool life until a childhood friend bumps into him blahblahblah.

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An anime with the quality of say, Ghost in the Shell or Cowboy Bebop would rock my socks.


Damn right.

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 Mass Effect Anime ? IMHO it sounds boring.
I mean, even if I don't like ''clichés'' animes, and only a slight few of them appealed me, how can a Western Space Opera Roleplaying game can be ported into a Japanese animation show ? Maybe if BioWare write the script and forces the story to the animators... but even there : I can't imagine a game with a ''realistic'' character design (for humans) being ported to a Japanese animation media filled of clichés : massive eyes, almost no nose, huge heads, over-the-top haircuts...
NO !


You clealry know nothing about anime. The clichés, massive eyes, no nose, huge heads and over-the-top haircuts only applies for the main-stream anime such as Naruto, Bleach, Dragonball Z, etc. etc. etc.

There are PLENTY of non-mainstream anime out there that are BEAUTIFULLY drawn and animated, for example Studio Ghibli's anime movies (we where already talking about Ghibli and how they could pull of an amazing job if they have no problem with Mass Effect's sci-fi setting).

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Honestly I'd rather have a Mass Effect anime than a live action film.

They could easily do a ME anime and do it well. Just look at the two Dead Space animated films.

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i just hope mass effect's story doesnt get animefied if it does get turned into an anime. Meet John Shepard, 17, all he wanted was to have a normal highschool life until a childhood friend bumps into him blahblahblah.


It's anime, so it would be more like "Meet John Shepard, 29, he survived the massacre on Akuze because he jumped 40 feet over a Thresher Maw whilst firing his assault rifle with his buttcheeks at 90 mph. He's moved on but the memories are so fresh they will haunt him forever, alas, woe, woe is John." Blah Blah Blah, dribble dribble, enter Ashley, Liara and Tali with double D boobs, drama, drama, yap yap dribble dribble overdone space battle with sovereign and Shepard vs Saren the end. 

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jollyorigins wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

i just hope mass effect's story doesnt get animefied if it does get turned into an anime. Meet John Shepard, 17, all he wanted was to have a normal highschool life until a childhood friend bumps into him blahblahblah.


It's anime, so it would be more like "Meet John Shepard, 29, he survived the massacre on Akuze because he jumped 40 feet over a Thresher Maw whilst firing his assault rifle with his buttcheeks at 90 mph. He's moved on but the memories are so fresh they will haunt him forever, alas, woe, woe is John." Blah Blah Blah, dribble dribble, enter Ashley, Liara and Tali with double D boobs, drama, drama, yap yap dribble dribble overdone space battle with sovereign and Shepard vs Saren the end. 


Wow, that's a very narrow view you've got there. It's like saying the only way Mass Effect can work in America is by giving Shepard a spunky talking dog sidekick, having him sing musical numbers and dance, and shoehorning in a moral message at the last moment.

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 I think that there is a big difference between the type of stories that Anime has strengths with and the type of stories western animation has strengths with. I'm a Brit who was born and grew up in Hong Kong (where Anime/Manga is HUGE) till I was twenty and saw the divides between the cultures pretty well. There is a clear difference between the western ideal of the hero and the oriental equivalent. The Escapist did a good piece (admittedly only about gaming) discussing this subject.

Unlike many Animes, Mass Effect is not about man bringing on his own downfall, of modern society splitting us from fantasy, spirituality and from eachother, of the differences that tear us apart and the thirst for power. Mass Effect is about survival. About doing whatever it takes to ensure the continuence of the galaxy but particularily the human species. Its about entrusting the future of the world to a man or woman with guns and (metaphorical) balls of solid brass. Its aesthetic is classic sci fi, curves and shinyness and light. Its human characters are not constrained by moral codes and honour but by a spirit of frontier freedom. Though elements are (righteously so!) borrowed from several other mediums it is bold it is brash and it is undoubtedly a space opera.



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When it comes to Studio Ghibli, I'm not totally sold on it. I am a MEGA Ghibli fan and see them as the Disney of Asia. Thats NOT condescending and NOT saying they only do cutesy wutesy stuff in the SLIGHTEST. However they mainly focus on fairy tales, classic stories and arguments on nature VS progress. Not quite their cup of tea. They are brilliant though. Anyone seen the new borrowers adaptation trailer yet?

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P.S
When it comes to Studio Ghibli, I'm not totally sold on it. I am a MEGA Ghibli fan and see them as the Disney of Asia. Thats NOT condescending and NOT saying they only do cutesy wutesy stuff in the SLIGHTEST. However they mainly focus on fairy tales, classic stories and arguments on nature VS progress. Not quite their cup of tea. They are brilliant though. Anyone seen the new borrowers adaptation trailer yet?


Oooh! I have. 
I have also been following "The Another World" Which is a colaboration by Ghibli and Level 7 (Dragon Quest studio)

Edit: And yes. Miyazaki focusing primarily on the environment and child innocence. Those are not common themes in the Mass Effect world. 

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I swear to God, if the Mass effect franchise ever gets the Halo: Legends treatment... I believe I might just need to kill myself. The movie being made by Legendary Pictures is anime-style, apparently, yet the higher-ups of BioWare are signed on for quality control, and for good reason I have learned to trust their judgement. It's not simply the look of anime that fails - although the eye size, lack of noses and disproportionate everything is somewhat disturbing - but everything else is embarrassing as well - voice acting, the dialog, the storyline and, half the time, even the framerate is reminiscent of the first, budget episodes of Pokemon.

Neither Halo nor Mass Effect deserve to be poorly drawn. Niether are the slightest bit Japanese, either. One of my favourite video games has already been tarnished by idiots who have never played it, or so it would seem. I can only hope the other never suffers the same fate.

What anime have you watched?

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giving Shepard a spunky talking dog sidekick, having him sing musical numbers and dance

I'm now looking forward to the Mass Effect musical... What? It's not real? Aww.

I think a Mass Effect cartoon could work, it might be worth trying at least (at worst, it's rubbish and people ignore it).

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I'm more excited for the anime then the live action. There's so much more you can do with animation then you can with live action, particularly in a setting like this. If the anime is terrible, we can ignore it. If the live action movie is terrible, it's going to be there. It'll haunt us. Worse, it will be a disaster that cost tooons more money to make.

What I'd love to see is something similar to a lot of the 'American franchises-turned Anime', where various animators/studios create short stories about the setting.

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GodWood wrote...

ErectionsCanada wrote...

I swear to God, if the Mass effect franchise ever gets the Halo: Legends treatment... I believe I might just need to kill myself. The movie being made by Legendary Pictures is anime-style, apparently, yet the higher-ups of BioWare are signed on for quality control, and for good reason I have learned to trust their judgement. It's not simply the look of anime that fails - although the eye size, lack of noses and disproportionate everything is somewhat disturbing - but everything else is embarrassing as well - voice acting, the dialog, the storyline and, half the time, even the framerate is reminiscent of the first, budget episodes of Pokemon.

Neither Halo nor Mass Effect deserve to be poorly drawn. Niether are the slightest bit Japanese, either. One of my favourite video games has already been tarnished by idiots who have never played it, or so it would seem. I can only hope the other never suffers the same fate.

What anime have you watched?


They just signed up 3 hours ago, then posted this thread. Either they're a troll - or extremely ignorant. Especially considering Mass Effect was based on a Japanese CGI movie. 

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littlezack wrote...

jollyorigins wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

i just hope mass effect's story doesnt get animefied if it does get turned into an anime. Meet John Shepard, 17, all he wanted was to have a normal highschool life until a childhood friend bumps into him blahblahblah.


It's anime, so it would be more like "Meet John Shepard, 29, he survived the massacre on Akuze because he jumped 40 feet over a Thresher Maw whilst firing his assault rifle with his buttcheeks at 90 mph. He's moved on but the memories are so fresh they will haunt him forever, alas, woe, woe is John." Blah Blah Blah, dribble dribble, enter Ashley, Liara and Tali with double D boobs, drama, drama, yap yap dribble dribble overdone space battle with sovereign and Shepard vs Saren the end. 


Wow, that's a very narrow view you've got there. It's like saying the only way Mass Effect can work in America is by giving Shepard a spunky talking dog sidekick, having him sing musical numbers and dance, and shoehorning in a moral message at the last moment.


what im trying to say is, anime storylines are crap. the vast majority of them are crap. name 1 good anime show thats come out this year. thats right, you cant, because anime storylines are generally crap.