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[Praetor Knight]

DaveExclamationMarkYognaut wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

The First Contact War and the Morning War, for example, feel more like they would need a different medium / art style to tell what happened in those conflicts.

Why? Ghost in the Shell showed us that anime's pretty good at depicting futuristic warfare.

Only because I'd want them to be games / expansions, so that I can fight in them.

And I wouldn't care if it was FPS, TPS, RPG or what other category we could think of, as long as Bioware does the storytelling.

But they could definitely be in that style of Ghost in the Shell, if we could not play through the stories.

[Dangerfoot]

Oh god, now I'm just imagining the kind of silly anime crap they'd add to it. I bet Kelly Chambers would be the stereotypical bubbly character with a VO that sounds like a 5 year old girl, and she'd do little peace signs. UGHHHH.

Modifié par Dangerfoot, 09 juillet 2011 - 04:13 .

[PinkDiamondstl]

Luc0s wrote...

ErectionsCanada wrote...

I swear to God, if the Mass effect franchise ever gets the Halo: Legends treatment... I believe I might just need to kill myself. The movie being made by Legendary Pictures is anime-style, apparently, yet the higher-ups of BioWare are signed on for quality control, and for good reason I have learned to trust their judgement. It's not simply the look of anime that fails - although the eye size, lack of noses and disproportionate everything is somewhat disturbing - but everything else is embarrassing as well - voice acting, the dialog, the storyline and, half the time, even the framerate is reminiscent of the first, budget episodes of Pokemon.

Neither Halo nor Mass Effect deserve to be poorly drawn. Niether are the slightest bit Japanese, either. One of my favourite video games has already been tarnished by idiots who have never played it, or so it would seem. I can only hope the other never suffers the same fate.

LOL what you say is pure nonsense.

First, Halo Legends was not drawn by 1 person or 1 studio, it was made by several studios and each part of Halo Legends was drawn in an unique style. Some parts where more generic than others, but most parts where really well drawn.

Second, the framerate of Japanese anime is exactly the same as western animation. Both run at 25 fps but the more complex animations run on so-called "doubles" which means those parts are animated at 12,5fps.

Third, the Japanese are known as the best animators and painters in the world. Most western animations simply cannot cope to the quality of the Japanese. Most modern American cartoons are a joke. Most serious Japanese animes are pure art, especially the hand-drawn backgrounds that actually are painted with real paint in real canvas.

Finally, have you ever seen The Animatrix? The Animatrix was also made by a team of 7 Japanese animation studios, just like Halo Legends. The Animatrix was amazing and most parts where beautifully animated! The voice-acting was also really superb, both English and Japanese voice-acting was well done in The Animatrix.


Look at this and tell me that it isn't beautifully made: CLICK ME

Let me guess..........................you're japanese are't you?And 2nd Animatrix was pure crap..:sick::sick:

[xAngryalbin0x]

Wait, the movie is anime-style? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

Modifié par xAngryalbin0x, 09 juillet 2011 - 04:00 .

[PinkDiamondstl]

 Oh and don't you people ever talk about Bleach again . That is the best anime and manga out there that I will watch and read. All the other animes are trash..

[Eshaye]

I loved the Halo anime, it was awesome....
And yeah nobody rag on Bleach!!!!! :X

xAngryalbin0x wrote...

Wait, the movie is anime-style? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

There's 2 movies, one is animated and the other isn't.

Modifié par Eshaye, 09 juillet 2011 - 06:41 .

[Dexi]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

 Oh and don't you people ever talk about Bleach again . That is the best anime and manga out there that I will watch and read. All the other animes are trash..

It's called opinion and preference. 

I hate Bleach. Awful drawn, awful story... You like it from "fanboysm" reasons. I hate it because I find all that stuff stupid, and the sometimes pseudo-cute pseudo-pornish and other times silly combat heavy narrative um... stupid. 


I have nothing against a ME Anime, as long as they approach it in a responsible manner and they don't turn it in Naruto or Bleach or w/e. It would unarguably ruin the ME series ( don't pull the "do not watch if do not want" card on me, analogy: if I close my eyes and I pretend humanity isn't stupid and go blind on the stupid things everyone does that doesn't mean human nature is suddenly perfect)

[Clover Rider]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

 Oh and don't you people ever talk about Bleach again . That is the best anime and manga out there that I will watch and read. All the other animes are trash..

Bleach was good for about 4 volumes then it got real stupid more and more every chapter to the point where I think it is safe to call it the worst Shonen Jump manga if not the worst shonen manga of all time.

Hell just look at the new chapters Ichigo got so scared of his new foe(as in the new troll bad guy ) he let him have his sisters just so he could run away... what an a-hole that makes Light look like a good Shonen Jump "hero".

Dexi if Bleach was like what you think it is it would be a better manga/anime it's worse than anything you think you know about it.<_<

And Cainne Chapel you think I don't know why they do filler? because I do, filler itself is not bad(but they could wait some years to make the show) it's just the way Toei does it. One Piece at the start was rocky with some filler(and skiping things like the Sea King punch, Zeff eating his foot and so on) but nowadays the filler and editing and padding make DBZ look so much better unlike you I think it is only necessary if they know how to do it well and they have made up stuff on the spot.

Yes the end of the flashback in the manga shows Luffy setting out from his home that is what made it go back full circle to the beginning of the series the Sea King punch was at chapter 1 and it should of been in episode 1. Oh and that is one more thing not only did the cut the ending/punch out of chapter 1 they made chapter 1 into episode 4! more reason why I don't think the anime does the manga any justice.

Modifié par Some Geth, 09 juillet 2011 - 07:46 .

[VolusvsReaper]

Bleach currently is horrible, I look more forward to the current filler anime episodes than I do the actual manga story...which is really sad considering how bad bleach fillers are...

[danteliveson]

VolusvsReaper wrote...

Bleach currently is horrible, I look more forward to the current filler anime episodes than I do the actual manga story...which is really sad considering how bad bleach fillers are...

I'm really enjoying the current Bleach arc.

[Clover Rider]

VolusvsReaper wrote...

Bleach currently is horrible, I look more forward to the current filler anime episodes than I do the actual manga story...which is really sad considering how bad bleach fillers are...

Last arc should have been the ending then we could all say it died a joke and move on to better things but Kubo has said he wants Bleach to go for 10 more years! it's a zombie now! and the Shonen Jump rankings has it so low it looks like it will be cancelled before the end of 2011!

Yes danteliveson the new arc is really good if it was the start of a new manga about a carzy teen who thinks his best friend/bro is not really his friend/bro we need more crazy heroes in Shonen Jump I say!

Modifié par Some Geth, 09 juillet 2011 - 08:10 .

[Parion]

Anyone else seen X/1999? Now that's a good series.

Luc0s wrote...

Ugh, I hope you're kidding and/or trolling, else I really feel sorry for your bad taste and ignorance about art.

You complain about Studio Ghibli's "mind-numbingly stupid films where the characters look like ambulatory tumors" yet you like Final Fantasy Advent Children? LOLOLOLOLOL! Sorry but that's just stupid. 

Final Fantasy Advent Children has a really boring script, the characters are poorly written and their voice-actors are god-awful (especially the English voice-actors). All characters are incredibly cliché.

I think Final Fantasy Advent Children is REALLY mind-numbingly stupid where the characters look even WORSE than ambolatory tumors.

Seriously, look at this and tell me he doesn't look INCREDIBLY CLICHÉ and god-awfully stupid:

//image removed for size//

UGH! The gayness! 


Now tell me sir, which Studio Ghibli films have you seen yourself and what where your complaints about the script and characters?

Advent Children was a perfect aesthetic fit for the setting, and was imo absolutely beautiful. The writing wasn't so
much bad as absent, but then I was refering to the look, cinematography  and craftsmanship, not the story. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

I'll admit the only Ghibli films I've seen completely are "Spirited Away" and "Howl's Moving Castle", but my point remains.
Graphicly, I find the environments unimaginative and passionless, the characters are just plain hideous.
On the writing side, I find the stories lackluster, largely pointless and ultimately boring, and most damningly the characters completely fail at establishing an emotional connection; I couldn't bring myself to care what happened to any of them.
There was no significant story progression, no character showed any real kind of growth, in part because there was no real conflict, no real villian to defeat or obstical to overcome, no philosophical conundrum to be explored.
Or at least it felt that way to me.

Assuming bioware writers, I'd much prefer that ME looked like this...


or this...


compared to this piece of liver...

[The_11thDoctor]

ErectionsCanada wrote...

I swear to God, if the Mass effect franchise ever gets the Halo: Legends treatment... I believe I might just need to kill myself. The movie being made by Legendary Pictures is anime-style, apparently, yet the higher-ups of BioWare are signed on for quality control, and for good reason I have learned to trust their judgement. It's not simply the look of anime that fails - although the eye size, lack of noses and disproportionate everything is somewhat disturbing - but everything else is embarrassing as well - voice acting, the dialog, the storyline and, half the time, even the framerate is reminiscent of the first, budget episodes of Pokemon.

Neither Halo nor Mass Effect deserve to be poorly drawn. Niether are the slightest bit Japanese, either. One of my favourite video games has already been tarnished by idiots who have never played it, or so it would seem. I can only hope the other never suffers the same fate.

Wow... this is the most uninformed, ignorant, bais, no knowledge of anime OP I have ever read. You clearly never watched real anime. Anime today is anywhere to realistic, to stylied, to fantasy based on who does it and the genre. Seeing how I watch anime each season  currently, I know that anime has the highest quality animations, styles, art, voice acting etc or at least usually. There are tons of great studios out there and great shows. Maybe if you never watched anything other than pokemon which is a low budget show for 7 year olds, you would know no better, but seeing how the internet exist, there is no excuse for this.

Mass Effect could be an amazing anime if done seriously by a real anime studios.
Great anime studios:
Bones
Production IG
Aniplex
Gainax
Sunrise
Shaft
Gonzo
Studio 4C
Toei
Bandai
Madhouse
Kyoto animation
Ghilbi
Sony
Bandai

Look into any of these and there are hundres to thousands of amazing titles done by them with noses, top teir animation and the best voice acting and music that the US has never been able to pull off. If it was turned into a cartoon, I would be worried. I wont list the millions of shows that prove your ignorance, but your clearly not the sharpest tack in the box. Or at least, not the best informed. Killing yourself should be based on your lack of knowlege or a bad situation, not on Bioware wanting to expand into new markets.

[Images]

Arcian wrote...
I agree with you that much of the Japanese anime-market aimed towards the Japanese involves a lot of that crap, but the Mass Effect anime isn't going to be aimed at the Japanese either. The ME fanbase is virtually non-existant there.

The question of whether or not the animated film should be anime rests on this point. It is not whether or not the animation is better, worse or even whether it does or does not involve little girls making peace signs. The whole question is one of aesthetic meeting styles based on the major themes espoused in japanese animation and by extension, culture. Why isn't Mass Effect a huge fanbase in Japan? Well its because its not the type of story that enthralls them. Survival by whatever means with a single hero's focus is not inherently a Japanese ideal and is therefore not popular. The artistic style of anime is one of grace, of dedication and training, which is greatly reflected in its themes. Western art has a more bombastic flair. Space Opera is that kind of story. Brash, colourful, dazzling, hopeful and libertarian.

[VolusvsReaper]

Some Geth wrote...

VolusvsReaper wrote...

Bleach currently is horrible, I look more forward to the current filler anime episodes than I do the actual manga story...which is really sad considering how bad bleach fillers are...

Last arc should have been the ending then we could all say it died a joke and move on to better things but Kubo has said he wants Bleach to go for 10 more years! it's a zombie now! and the Shonen Jump rankings has it so low it looks like it will be cancelled before the end of 2011!

Yes danteliveson the new arc is really good if it was the start of a new manga about a carzy teen who thinks his best friend/bro is not really his friend/bro we need more crazy heroes in Shonen Jump I say!

One can only hope they take the limp horse out to the field and shoot it dead, and maybe the writer for Claymore will do more than 1 issue every month

[Dangerfoot]

Luc0s wrote...

First, you clearly don't know what an otaku is.

Is it weird that I'm glad?

Second, what I said is not nonsense. Back in the 80's the western market made awesome cartoons, but today? All pure crap. Just randomly zap to Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network or the Disney Channel and see what kind of uninspired abominations are aired on those channels. I miss the good old days when we still had Thundercats, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Biker Mice from Mars, The Transformers, King Arthur and the Knights of Justice, X-men (the animated series) and Batman (the animated series). Those where the days when the western cartoon market still shined. But now, it's all pure crap. But lucky for me, the Japanese still make great cartoons that I enjoy watching even now I'm 23 years old.

You obviously have either a very limited knowledge of western art and animation, or you acknowledge very few things as being western art and animation. Either way, you're wrong.

[marshalleck]

Luc0s wrote...

Go watch at least one of those 3 and after seeing it with an open mind, come back here and tell me what you thought about it.

Open minds on the BSN? Haha, yeah right. Around here, anything Japanese is considered crap. All Japanese animations look like Dragon Ball Z, all Japanese games look and play like Final Fantasy VII, etc. etc.

Modifié par marshalleck, 09 juillet 2011 - 03:41 .

[Seboist]

marshalleck wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Go watch at least one of those 3 and after seeing it with an open mind, come back here and tell me what you thought about it.

Open minds on the BSN? Haha, yeah right. Around here, anything Japanese is considered crap.

You're a weaboo!!!

[marshalleck]

Seboist wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Go watch at least one of those 3 and after seeing it with an open mind, come back here and tell me what you thought about it.

Open minds on the BSN? Haha, yeah right. Around here, anything Japanese is considered crap.

You're a weaboo!!!

Hardly. I've never even heard of those animes Luc0s was talking about. But yeah, although I suspect you're kidding, there is some truth in the jest that it would be typical BSN mindset that to like some anime I've seen, and some of the Japanese games I've played makes me a weaboo.

Modifié par marshalleck, 09 juillet 2011 - 03:43 .