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[BeastMTL]

I see it this way.. I got half the content of DA:O for $10 more. I've tried doing a new run on DA2 and cant even force myself to complete ACT I. And they want me to shelf out another $10 ? Sorry guys, not going to happen.

[Relix28]

Savber100 wrote...

This was my thought from a previous post:

More linear maps, more ridiculous anime-styled hack-n-slash, and seeing how it's DLC, I doubt there would be any significant choice or consequence that will impact the game.

Cliched story about some trapped evil that is going to be unleashed, Fable III-styled weapon customization... the 'Pillar of Critical Chance'? Are you kidding me?

That does sound pretty retarded. lol For some reason, I can't stop laughing at it now. 

[Deadmac]

My plan: When all the DLC, patches, and main game are released as one package, I will fork over at least $20.00-$29.99 to buy the whole set. Yes, I am still holding out for an 'Ultimate Edition' of "Dragon Age II". Lol... While the majority will spend around $100+, I will buy the entire set at 1/5th the cost.

Its worth waiting a few years.

I just bought "Fallout 3" and all the dlc for $19.99. Lol...

Modifié par Deadmac, 13 juillet 2011 - 06:57 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

The DLC looks good but 3 hours? No thanks. Bioware may be trying to fix the flaws in the main game and please people with new environments, enemies, dialogue and customization but 3 hour DLC won't do that. 6 hour DLC more like would be better and the rest of the DLC (if there are any more) should be the same length. Though creating an expansion that lasts 20 hours which addresses all the faults of DA2 would be better I suppose and mean while, they could make a patch which redesigns areas so that we no longer see the same areas everywhere (though I don't know if this is possible).

I doubt DLC will save this game from being the average action RPG that it is.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Deadmac wrote...

My plan: When all the DLC, patches, and main game are released as one package, I will fork over at least $20.00-$29.99 to buy the whole set. Yes, I am still holding out for an 'Ultimate Edition' of "Dragon Age II". Lol... While the majority will spend around $100+, I will buy the entire set at 1/5th the cost.

Its worth waiting a few years.

I just bought "Fallout 3" and all the dlc for $19.99. Lol...

This is what I did with Origins. I no longer own DA2 as I sold it (it was good enough for 3 playthroughs as each class) but if I see an Ultimate Edition at a very cheap price one day, I may pick it up again expecially if all the DLC adds at least 20 hours to the game. They should just create one big expansion addressing the faults of the main game. They could make it standalone too.

[Rauhallinen]

Hmmm it seems to have new non-recycled areas.

I'm pretty sure that they will market that as 'innovation' at the next Bioware event.

[JaegerBane]

Rauhallinen wrote...

Hmmm it seems to have new non-recycled areas.

I'm pretty sure that they will market that as 'innovation' at the next Bioware event.

Indeed. As glad as I am that we're getting new areas (if not new textures), I did kind of wince when I first heard that in the DLC demo. 'New areas' isn't normally the major selling point of a DLC, particularly when they're not *that* different to what we've seen before. It's not like the environments we saw in Overlord or Shivering Isles, after all.

It's not a great start, but it's still what was needed.

[The Twilight God]

Chancer15 wrote...

I think it looks cool, but I kind of want some more Companions. I think the Darkspawn are used way to much in Dragon age and i think its time for some new Great threat. I also want some God damn Costume packs lol. I am sick of seeing my companions wear the sam thing for 10 damn years.

I didn't enjoy DA2 enough to even consider buying DLC for it. I have no desire to support DA2 any further so I won't be purchasing any DLC or expansions.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 13 juillet 2011 - 10:59 .

[Frybread76]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Deadmac wrote...

My plan: When all the DLC, patches, and main game are released as one package, I will fork over at least $20.00-$29.99 to buy the whole set. Yes, I am still holding out for an 'Ultimate Edition' of "Dragon Age II". Lol... While the majority will spend around $100+, I will buy the entire set at 1/5th the cost.

Its worth waiting a few years.

I just bought "Fallout 3" and all the dlc for $19.99. Lol...

This is what I did with Origins. I no longer own DA2 as I sold it (it was good enough for 3 playthroughs as each class) but if I see an Ultimate Edition at a very cheap price one day, I may pick it up again expecially if all the DLC adds at least 20 hours to the game. They should just create one big expansion addressing the faults of the main game. They could make it standalone too.

I agree with what you say, but why would Bioware/EA make one expansion that would sell for $30 when it could create several DLC's for $10 each and make more money overall?

[Deadmac]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Deadmac wrote...

My plan: When all the DLC, patches, and main game are released as one package, I will fork over at least $20.00-$29.99 to buy the whole set. Yes, I am still holding out for an 'Ultimate Edition' of "Dragon Age II". Lol... While the majority will spend around $100+, I will buy the entire set at 1/5th the cost.

Its worth waiting a few years.

I just bought "Fallout 3" and all the dlc for $19.99. Lol...

This is what I did with Origins. I no longer own DA2 as I sold it (it was good enough for 3 playthroughs as each class) but if I see an Ultimate Edition at a very cheap price one day, I may pick it up again expecially if all the DLC adds at least 20 hours to the game. They should just create one big expansion addressing the faults of the main game. They could make it standalone too.

I obtained "Dragon Age: Origins" and "Dragon Age: Awakening" as a Christmas gift. After I went to BestBuy last Christmas, I saw "Dragon Age: Ultimate Edition" for $29.99. I used a gift-card to buy the full set.

Within approximately one to two years, BioWare will definitely release some type of promotional. Even though "Dragon Age II: The Ultimate Edition" may have another name, the bottom line is that it will still be the same promotional technique. BioWare and EA will deny that its in the pipeline, so that they can make as much money as possible. Don't let them fool you. It will arrive.

[Shuma Gorath]

I already overpaid for DA2, wasn't worth the $40.00 and definitely not wasting another $10 on a bad game.

[Alicia Keys]

I wish this DLC would be taking place after the end of Dragon Age 2. Not during it or anywhere in the game. Also I haven't played Dragon Age 2 yet or Dragon Age Awakenings or Leliannas song dlc. I only played the whole game of Dragon Age Origins and all the DLC but Lelianna's Song. Do I have a lot of stuff to look foward too? Is Lelianna's Song, Dragon Age Awakening, and Dragon Age 2 great games or what. I bought all of it but haven't got to it yet. I'm going to get this DLC too. Also when does Mass Effect 3 come out? Thanks

[The Twilight God]

Alicia Keys wrote...

I wish this DLC would be taking place after the end of Dragon Age 2. Not during it or anywhere in the game. Also I haven't played Dragon Age 2 yet or Dragon Age Awakenings or Leliannas song dlc. I only played the whole game of Dragon Age Origins and all the DLC but Lelianna's Song. Do I have a lot of stuff to look foward too? Is Lelianna's Song, Dragon Age Awakening, and Dragon Age 2 great games or what. I bought all of it but haven't got to it yet. I'm going to get this DLC too. Also when does Mass Effect 3 come out? Thanks

Awakening is a great continution of Origins.
Leliana's song is actually pretty good for a DLC.
DA2 is "meh". The whole game is filler, but if you like running errands for people you might like it.

[JaegerBane]

The Twilight God wrote...

Alicia Keys wrote...

I wish this DLC would be taking place after the end of Dragon Age 2. Not during it or anywhere in the game. Also I haven't played Dragon Age 2 yet or Dragon Age Awakenings or Leliannas song dlc. I only played the whole game of Dragon Age Origins and all the DLC but Lelianna's Song. Do I have a lot of stuff to look foward too? Is Lelianna's Song, Dragon Age Awakening, and Dragon Age 2 great games or what. I bought all of it but haven't got to it yet. I'm going to get this DLC too. Also when does Mass Effect 3 come out? Thanks

Awakening is a great continution of Origins.
Leliana's song is actually pretty good for a DLC.
DA2 is "meh". The whole game is filler, but if you like running errands for people you might like it.

I'll never quite understand why Awakening got crucified by the forums. It was loaded with bugs and the way it handled the talking with the team wasn't particularly great.... but it managed to cram a bewildering array of content into such a small amount of time. Kal'Hirol had more depth and design than all of the areas of DA2 put together. Not to mention the Battlemage class was awesome.

And the Children were some of the most disturbing enemies I've came across in a fantasy game. I wonder what DA2 would have been like if they'd kept that approach to design rather than all that 'change for the sake of change' garbage we had in DA2.

[The Twilight God]

JaegerBane wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

Alicia Keys wrote...

I wish this DLC would be taking place after the end of Dragon Age 2. Not during it or anywhere in the game. Also I haven't played Dragon Age 2 yet or Dragon Age Awakenings or Leliannas song dlc. I only played the whole game of Dragon Age Origins and all the DLC but Lelianna's Song. Do I have a lot of stuff to look foward too? Is Lelianna's Song, Dragon Age Awakening, and Dragon Age 2 great games or what. I bought all of it but haven't got to it yet. I'm going to get this DLC too. Also when does Mass Effect 3 come out? Thanks

Awakening is a great continution of Origins.
Leliana's song is actually pretty good for a DLC.
DA2 is "meh". The whole game is filler, but if you like running errands for people you might like it.

I'll never quite understand why Awakening got crucified by the forums. It was loaded with bugs and the way it handled the talking with the team wasn't particularly great.... but it managed to cram a bewildering array of content into such a small amount of time. Kal'Hirol had more depth and design than all of the areas of DA2 put together. Not to mention the Battlemage class was awesome.

And the Children were some of the most disturbing enemies I've came across in a fantasy game. I wonder what DA2 would have been like if they'd kept that approach to design rather than all that 'change for the sake of change' garbage we had in DA2.

The only bug I experienced was being unable to do Sigrun's personal quest because I did that smuggler quest first. Oh, and the difficulty in finishing Ogren's quest since the game isn't long enough to easily get enough approval since he hardly approves of anything. Not really a bug, but something overlooked by the devs. I hate getting quest s that can't be completed. Awakening is better than all of DA2 combined.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 14 juillet 2011 - 06:36 .

[FieryDove]

JaegerBane wrote...

I'll never quite understand why Awakening got crucified by the forums. It was loaded with bugs and the way it handled the talking with the team wasn't particularly great.... but it managed to cram a bewildering array of content into such a small amount of time. Kal'Hirol had more depth and design than all of the areas of DA2 put together. Not to mention the Battlemage class was awesome.

And the Children were some of the most disturbing enemies I've came across in a fantasy game. I wonder what DA2 would have been like if they'd kept that approach to design rather than all that 'change for the sake of change' garbage we had in DA2.

I loved DAA but didn't like the way companion interaction was handled nor the bugs that will never be fixed. (Silverrite mines and starting nekkid in the cutscene/battle with a Warden over level 18)

Children were something...overwhelm...down I go...again. ack lol

[The Twilight God]

FieryDove wrote...

(Silverrite mines and starting nekkid in the cutscene/battle with a Warden over level 18)

I think that had something to do with armor from other DA:O DLC. I never had any issue in the mines and only at the very start if I had DLC armor equip on my import file. Before I make a final Origins save I always switch to non-DLC armor for the import.

[JaegerBane]

The Twilight God wrote...

The only bug I experienced was
being unable to do Sigrun's personal quest because I did that smuggler
quest first. Oh, and the difficulty in finishing Ogren's quest since the
game isn't long enough to easily get enough approval since he hardly
approves of anything. Not really a bug, but something overlooked by the
devs. I hate getting quest s that can't be completed. Awakening is
better than all of DA2 combined.

The biggest bug I can remember was missing out on making Sigrun a Grey Warden - if you don't do Blackmarsh last then the final battle occurs before you get a chance to make your latest party member a Warden, and in my case I'd left Kal'Hirol til last. I also got hit with the issue with Sigrun's loyalty too. There's a bottle of whisky or something near Kal'Hirol that seemed to fix the issue with Oghren's loyalty.

I also came across a really cool bug which put my Warden Commander suit in my inventory and gave me a full Mage outfit, couldn't get that to repeat, though

In all seriousness Awakening was quite playable in the state it was released, but I was lucky enough to avoid the really nasty bugs like the Silverite mine thing.

FieryDove wrote...

I loved DAA but didn't like the way companion interaction was handled nor the bugs that will never be fixed. (Silverrite mines and starting nekkid in the cutscene/battle with a Warden over level 18)

Children were something...overwhelm...down I go...again. ack lol

As I mentioned above, I didn't have an issue with the Silverite mines. Hell, I had a custom-made Silverite massive helm to go with my Warden Commander armour (which itself only made it into Awakening via a mod) and they all appeared just fine on one of those freaky zombie thingies (though it did make the damn thing hard as nails to take down).

I think the Children perfectly summed up the seriously creepy design of the Darkspawn as a whole in DA:O. I don't really think I've hit anything like them in any other game, they scared the hell out of me. Really, DA2 needed more of that and less putties-from-Power-Rangers in it's darkspawn.

[TheDevian]

The bug that got me the most in Awakenings was the shopkeeper there in the mines, never could get him to join me, and don't remember what I did out of order there. or whatever the problem was... but the lack of proper interaction with the party members was what got me to have much less interest in that one and that same issue has carried on to everything else they have done with the IP so far. And still one of my primary problems with DA2 other than the messed up reused maps and fact that nothing you do matters. My imported saves had more of an impact on the game then what I did in the game itself. (only about 2 or 3 things you do in game make any dif and one of those is picking your class!) I kind of understand not having those extra conversations in an expantion, keep the costs of dialogue and production time down for something that will only sell for $10-20, but to continue that into the full sequel? That's shoddy. Compounded by the fact that everyone has their own house (realistic for the story or not) means you have to run all over town to talk to your party even if they are all in your group...
I have no problems with certain conversations only taking place in certain places, but if that is going to be the case, then when these are keyed off, then when you try to talk to them normally (anywhere else) then they can say something like "we need to talk, in private."

One of my other problems was the Dialog Wheel, and no it's probably not what you think. I don't mind it's existence, but the way they used it to cut down on our responses, I didn't care for. To improve what they had in Origins they should have left us with 5-6 options and just put the markers to tell us the intonation. What I mean by this is that say for example you want to be Nice/Diplomatic, you should still have a way to say yes, AND no, and the same for the others, there should be a snarky way to say yes I will take the quest or no I will not.
If you are going to use this wheel (and define our personality on that), then there needs to be 6 options minimum for every response. The lack of choices over all is THE biggest problem and I doubt they will address any of that.

I don't keep track of the number of hours for this or that, but I can say for the first game I was months in before I even considered working my way up to beating it with any of my guys, the first month was still making characters, and playing through all the origins and seeing how I was treated by certain people as this or that. Not even trying to progress the main quest yet.
In 2 that was not an option, there not only was far less to do, but pretty much only one way to do it. By the end of the first week I had finished the game with my 2nd character, and was 25, so it's not like I missed much. After that I toyed with it a bit to see what, if any, variation I could make, and then since on top of all that there were almost no mods due to the lack of a toolset, I started losing interest. By the end of a month instead of just really getting good like the first game, I was so burnt out that I almost uninstalled it (and I never do that).

A friend of mine hated DA2 so much that he gave me his copy for free, and I still almost feel as though I was ripped off.

It's nice to see that they are addressing some of the issues, like the ambushes (that almost every game seems to think is The Way To Go, these days) but I will assume that will only apply to the EP itself, not the rest of the game.
And I kind of doubt that they will allow us to talk to our supposed 'friends' any time we feel like it.

There were a few things I liked better about 2, like the mage was easier to play (though I would like to see friendly fire made it's own option, not based on the dif level and, as with the rest of the game, the lack of so many choices (spell trees and subclasses)). And the Friend/Rival was kind of kewl, but I would still like to have had the option of kicking someone out of the group as we had in the first one "I think it's time for you to go." (Yes, Sebastian, I am looking at you! The only way to avoid him is to not ever talk to him, so I have only done his quest once, and that makes me sad as it means I don't get to see *That Person* that extra time... it would be nice to be able to do that and then make him go back home to do what right, instead of hanging around me being an preachy, pompous, self-righteous, hypocritical >Expletive Deleted<! ...there are others too, but I digress). I guess they figured if we did have that by the end of the game we would likely only have one or two people left at most.

I also doubt they will fix the lack of variety on the weapons/armor icons or much of anything else like that (that we could do ourselves if we had a working toolset).

and then you add to that the tonedeffness of the the replies like this... tells me they probably aren't listening.
"But also there were a lot of fans of the original Dragon Age: Origins
who weren't as happy with it. Maybe they were looking for more of the
same, and it was different and innovative in ways they weren't
expecting."
It is NOT Innovative to reuse the same map over and over, nor is it innovative to take away all of our options and  streamline the story to the point that there is almost no replayability whatsoever, they do that all the time! Dumbing games down is never innovative!
DA:O was a breath of fresh air in an otherwise poluted air of drek, 2 just made me sick to think they could claim the same 'origins'.

I will still keep an eye on the property, for a while, but unless I see a Return to RP, they will never get another dime from me.

Oh, and BW guys, a little tip, while that intro might have been cute, once, it makes me dread the idea of making any new characters, once you have been through it, give us a way to skip it! All that fighting, all that time, with out being able to save, for absolutely nothing! No Xp, No Loot, nothing!

[TEWR]

I'm going to buy it immediately now that I know Hawke can make some important decisions that will be tracked in the future and he won't have the same end result shoved down his throat.


Also, more Merrill is always a way for me to immediately buy anything DA related.

[Sinuphro]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I'm going to buy it immediately now that I know Hawke can make some important decisions that will be tracked in the future and he won't have the same end result shoved down his throat.


Also, more Merrill is always a way for me to immediately buy anything DA related.

And what proof do you have that the DLC will be able to chang the outcome of the DA2? None. And from the gameplay I saw on youtube, its just more of the same. No thanks; won't buy that crap.

[Morroian]

Sinuphro wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I'm going to buy it immediately now that I know Hawke can make some important decisions that will be tracked in the future and he won't have the same end result shoved down his throat.

Also, more Merrill is always a way for me to immediately buy anything DA related.

And what proof do you have that the DLC will be able to chang the outcome of the DA2? None. 

Um the devs have said in once of the announcement threads that Legacy has plot flags that will be carried forward and used in the future. Thats what he's talking about.

[TEWR]

Morroian wrote...

Sinuphro wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I'm going to buy it immediately now that I know Hawke can make some important decisions that will be tracked in the future and he won't have the same end result shoved down his throat.

Also, more Merrill is always a way for me to immediately buy anything DA related.

And what proof do you have that the DLC will be able to chang the outcome of the DA2? None. 

Um the devs have said in once of the announcement threads that Legacy has plot flags that will be carried forward and used in the future. Thats what he's talking about.

Yes that. How you got changing the outcome of DA2's base story from what I said I don't know Sinuphro, as it was pretty evident what I was talking about.

[tnfstc]

I like the idea and will be buying it. It looks a ton better than most DA:O DLCs (Because let's face it, Golems of Amgarak, Witch hunt, Darkspawn Chronicles, and Leliana's Song were awful.) If it's anything like Sebastian's than i'm game.

[Akka le Vil]

JaegerBane wrote...

I'll never quite understand why Awakening got crucified by the forums.

Because it was an horribly written piece of monty haul garbage that also completely failed at continuity ?

Modifié par Akka le Vil, 19 juillet 2011 - 04:23 .