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Kai Leng (the Cerberus assassin from ME:Retribution) has been confirmed for a while now as a character that will confront Shepard in ME3. Further, he showed up in the Game Informer Mass effect 3 cover story, and looks like a Dark Jedi of some sorts (and also fights as well as one, as he was an N7 agent and killed a Krogan in hand to hand combat, along with a squad of Turians). Kai Leng, also being part of the organization you will have to fight, Cerberus, and TIM's right hand man, sounds like he is going to have at the very least a mini boss like appearance.

So my question is, what do you think will be Kai Leng's significance in ME3? Will he just be another random dead body between you and the end of the game?Or will he be a better than Saren like nemesis that shows up throughout the game to thwart your efforts, and clash with you in a one on one fight between two very capable N7 marines who are ideologically polar opposites: Shepard versus Dark Shepard? Personally, I'm rooting for the later, as it would be a shame to have his awsomeness built up in retribution,, knocing out Anderson, killing a Reaper Avatar, and killing a bunch of turians, and being transformerd into an ME sith lord, only to have him be some random enemy. In any case, please share your oppinions on the matter.

See Also: Image of Kai Leng in ME3

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Hopefully hes barely in ME3 because his character was incredibly retarded. I actually facepalmed when reading the part of the novel where he somehow manages to kill a squad of turians. What BS.
It reminded me of thr part in Revelation when Sanders somehow manged to beat up her captor, while in handcuffs. The novels were so bad.

Modifié par Quole, 09 juillet 2011 - 01:15 .


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Kai Leng is actually Conrad Verner, you heard it here first folks.

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As a fan of Kai Leng, I hope he has a significant role in ME3 as a nemesis (Saren not Zevran) and not just be the Dragon we have to kill before reaching the Illusive Man.
Also, was it ever confirmed that it is Kai Leng in that image?

Modifié par MisterJB, 09 juillet 2011 - 01:22 .


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I'm hoping he's going to be a boss on Thessia.

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Yeah, if that's him he looks heavily Reaperized, which might stretch my suspension of disbelief in a showdown with since he can take out a whole group of turians that fast. I'm in the camp of keeping book characters out of the games. They were nice additions to the lore during the bleak periods between games, but they don't need roles in the game in my opinion. Focus on the characters everyone knows and love. I'd maybe be up for a brief cameo, like Hackett in Arrival, but Shepard doesn't know them and I doubt he'll be in the mood for introductions.

Perfect way for Kai Leng to be in the game would be taken from the Indiana Jones playbook. Let your opponent show off thei moves, then shoot them and move on to bigger issues. That would make for an awesome cutscene.

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MisterJB wrote...

As a fan of Kai Leng, I hope he has a significant role in ME3 as a nemesis (Saren not Zevran) and not just be the Dragon we have to kill before reaching the Illusive Man.
Also, was it ever confirmed that it is Kai Leng in that image?


No, just assumed since the guy in the image 'looks' Asian.

But I have a feeling that's who it is.

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^ Plus, that white splotch on his armor in the middle of his chest is a Cerberus logo. There's a high-def picture of him in the James Vega support thread.

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Quole wrote...

Hopefully hes barely in ME3 because his character was incredibly retarded. I actually facepalmed when reading the part of the novel where he somehow manages to kill a squad of turians. What BS.


Yeah, because nobody could ever kill a squad of turians. That's just BS.

You ever see a turian in-game? They're impossible to kill.


Anyway, I'd like for him to be presented as a sort of rival for Shepard, assuming we can't have him as a squadmate.

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I want to fight him... my AdeptShep will enjoy giving him a major biotic beatdown

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He signed his death certificate when he put hands on Anderson.

Seriously though, I'd be interested in knowing how Leng would stack up against the squad mates (let's be honest, no-one can take on Shep). I doubt Mordin or Tali would be much of match (at least not in a straight-up fight). The others, however, would be interesting fights.

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Only Wrex, Legion, and maybe Samara would be able to defeat him

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If Thane survives I would sure as hell love to see that fight.

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Quole wrote...

Hopefully hes barely in ME3 because his character was incredibly retarded. I actually facepalmed when reading the part of the novel where he somehow manages to kill a squad of turians. What BS.
It reminded me of thr part in Revelation when Sanders somehow manged to beat up her captor, while in handcuffs. The novels were so bad.


Kai Leng can basically man handle Anderson in hand to hand combat, He killed a Krogan with just a combat knife in a bar fight, He is a N7 soldier up there with Anderson and Shepard and one of the best Assassins in the Galaxy (Thane is likely better at it). Its obvious he is being built up to be another Saren but Cerberus version.

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I don't think even Thane would be able to defeat him.

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DarkDragon777 wrote...

I don't think even Thane would be able to defeat him.


Unenhanced Kai Leng would be taken down by Thane. Thane is naturally stronger than humans and has been trained as an Assassin since he was like 7. Also his own natural abilities which pretty much gives him a photographic memory of every kill and fight gives Thane far more experience and skill in close quarters combat and assassination that Kai Leng can't even match. Hell Thane seems to have somewhat supernatural speed in ME2 when he dissappeared when two people moved in front of him briefly and during that video that showed Thane disappearing the second he walks in to a shadow and then land behind a merc pretty far away and snap his neck.

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I wouldn't rule Thane or Kai Leng out. Thane is very good, sure, but doesn't mean he'll win. Kai Leng is good too. It also depends on the nature of the fight. Thane relies on stealth but you can't use stealth in a cage match.

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Thane's getting old and sick. He's not what he used to be. Leng has the edge.

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 Didn't he kill one of Aria's daughters? That could prove to be interesting if they're both in ME3.

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catharsisboo wrote...

^ Plus, that white splotch on his armor in the middle of his chest is a Cerberus logo. There's a high-def picture of him in the James Vega support thread.

MInd posting it? Just went through the entire thread and didn't see it.

JukeFrog wrote...
(let's be honest, no-one can take on Shep).

If it's an unarmed combat, I think Leng could defeat Shepard. So far, the commander hasn't shown much proficiency in that area and, while Shepard does have many upgrades, Leng killed a Krogan with nothing but a knife.

I expect killing him will require some quick thinking, like Anderson did to capture him.

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Thane vs Kai Leng would be awesome, but the performance all depends on how Thane's health is at the time. If he's in poor health, he isn't going to be able to move around much, and the entire fight would have to depend on stealth.

If he's healthy though...the guy can snap krogan necks and vanish instantly. More importantly, he's a squadmate and considered the best of the best, while Kai Leng is a book villain introduced in the last installment. Thane has the edge in storytelling there.

I vote for a Shepard+Thane team up against Leng. Shepard's raw strength and endurance and Thane's expertise? Good luck, Leng. You'll need it.

Modifié par CheeseEnchilada, 09 juillet 2011 - 04:18 .


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MisterJB wrote...

catharsisboo wrote...

^ Plus, that white splotch on his armor in the middle of his chest is a Cerberus logo. There's a high-def picture of him in the James Vega support thread.

MInd posting it? Just went through the entire thread and didn't see it.

JukeFrog wrote...
(let's be honest, no-one can take on Shep).

If it's an unarmed combat, I think Leng could defeat Shepard. So far, the commander hasn't shown much proficiency in that area and, while Shepard does have many upgrades, Leng killed a Krogan with nothing but a knife.

I expect killing him will require some quick thinking, like Anderson did to capture him.


Shepard fought a Yahg in close quarters and it wasn't actually one sided at all. Those things are considered to be more terrifying than Krogan. Also Shepard has very similar training to Kai Leng. Remember they were both N7. Of course they both grew in skill but it seems like Shepard grew much more considering the crap he goes through. Hell knocking out a Krogan Battlemaster in one strike beats killing one random Krogan. While impressive its not as good as Shepard who has enough enhancements to make hand to hand combat ill advised unless Kai Leng is equally enhanced or more.

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DarkDragon777 wrote...

Thane's getting old and sick. He's not what he used to be. Leng has the edge.


I'm referring to ME2 Thane and before. Even then Thane is considered the best Assassin in the Galaxy and can kill a Krogan in hand to hand. Hell Zaeed can to. In fact most people on the ME2 team can kill Krogan hand to hand its almost a requirement lol.

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MisterJB wrote...
MInd posting it? Just went through the entire thread and didn't see it.


This is what I found from that thread:

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

This is what I found:

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that picture doesnt go with the description. kei leng is a cerberus assasin, and james sanders(vega) is a hardcore alliance soilder.