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[thatguy212]

What would be the best class to use if i plan to transform into the slayer for most of the major fights? Would it just be fighter or would Monk work well? (not sure if it would get unarmed strike bonuses and stuff)

[polytope]

Turning into the slayer is a waste of time for a fighter or monk (no, monk bonuses to unarmed combat aren't applied), as slayer has only 100 hp max and doen't fight any better than a high level and well kitted warrior anyway.

Slayer change is only really useful for melee weak classes such as wizards, bards and druids, or if you need to avoid imprisonment on the fly.

[Ishad Nha]

You don't need to do it. Then there is the Reputation problem...

[morbidest2]

Also you survive as the slayer for a rather short period of time - certainly not long enough for a serious fight. The transformation is basically useful for only a few things, like getting your Rep down to keep Edwin or Viconia happy in SoA, or for knocking down doors in a few situations.

[BelgarathMTH]

I've never tried it, but it seems to me that playing the Slayer would be great for somebody who wants to role-play a person who likes being the Slayer. I presume that said, somewhat creepy, individual also plans to take the Bhaal portfolio and become the new god of murder.

It has vulnerabilities and weaknesses, as mentioned. So he probably needs a set of minions under his thrall.

Berserker or Barbarian would make a lot of sense role-playing wise. Although, also as mentioned, those two classes would usually be more powerful in humanoid form by the time you can transform into the Slayer.

You might spin it as a Necromancer with weak Constitution and Strength, filled with hatred and resentment at getting picked on, who gets off on  "going Slayer" on people.

If you want to role-play it in service to the Rule of Cool, I say go for it!


http://tvtropes.org/...Main/RuleOfCool

Modifié par BelgarathMTH, 09 juillet 2011 - 01:49 .

[kenng]

What is the consequence of going to zero rep? What if you are already at zero rep, and still go into slayer? Would it just stay at zero?

[BelgarathMTH]

To my knowledge, it doesn't go below one.

I need the experts to confirm these points for me, but I think all it does is that good and neutral aligned characters won't have anything to do with you, the stores will charge outrageous prices and maybe refuse to do business with you, and town guards in civilized places will attack you on sight.

[Shadow_Leech07]

I've heard a rumor that some kind of bug allows one to stay in slayer mode for a bit more time, basically one has to use protection from magical energy. I've never bothered to verify it because frankly I usually never use slayer/ravager mode, but if that's your thing then definitely try it out.

[Matuse]

Good characters will leave your party when your rep drops too far. I believe neutral characters will leave if you get down to a 1. Jaheira certainly will, but she never really behaved very neutral.

[touch_of_the_void]

Shadow_Leech07 wrote...

I've heard a rumor that some kind of bug allows one to stay in slayer mode for a bit more time, basically one has to use protection from magical energy. I've never bothered to verify it because frankly I usually never use slayer/ravager mode, but if that's your thing then definitely try it out.

This works to an extent. When you've been in Slayer form for a little while you start periodically taking Magic Damage. It starts out small and grows larger. Even if you survive the damage, a few rounds later you die. PfME blocks the damage over time but doesn't the insta-death a few rounds later.

Modifié par touch_of_the_void, 10 juillet 2011 - 09:31 .

[Sparky The Barbarian]

The Slayer Transformation is the Nuclear option and should only be used when it's life or death. A better analogy might be to call The Slayer a drug. Too much use means an overdose and you're out of the game.

[The Potty 1]

Well going with the rule of cool, you could try to create an item which protects from the insta-death, and perhaps reduces the magic damage a bit.

To start I'd cheat in imoen's belt and see if it protects you. IMOENHP1, if you can't move it in inventory, place it directly in the belt slot using shadowkeeper.

If it does you've narrowed it down to a very short list of possible protections. You could then fire up infinity explorer and create yourself an ioun stone or something that provides only that protection. Go for something that doesn't clash with items you probably need, like the belt of inertial barrier, ring of gaxx, valygar's armour if you can wear it, human flesh armour if you can't.

[polytope]

The Potty 1 wrote...

Well going with the rule of cool, you could try to create an item which protects from the insta-death, and perhaps reduces the magic damage a bit.

To start I'd cheat in imoen's belt and see if it protects you. IMOENHP1, if you can't move it in inventory, place it directly in the belt slot using shadowkeeper.

There's no instant death effect listed under SPIN823 - the slayer transformation - so I suspect it's handled by in game scripts, in which case nothing will protect against it. There's also the high probability of going berserk every round you stay as a slayer, not a very useful ability.

[touch_of_the_void]

You're looking at the wrong spell file, that one is maybe used when the PC transforms the first or second time. There's no berserk associated with the version that the character gets to use from the Special Abilities bar.

[ussnorway]

thatguy212 wrote...

What would be the best class to use if i plan to transform into the slayer for most of the major fights? Would it just be fighter or would Monk work well? (not sure if it would get unarmed strike bonuses and stuff)

IMO mages, bards and thieves make the deadliest slayer because of ‘Chain Contingency’.