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[EmperorSahlertz]

Sophia Dryden could easily have gotten a child before she joined the Wardens. She was after all rather old for a Warden recruit IIRC.

[Jamie_edmo]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

@Jamie_edmo.

Fernando Melo said on BioWare TV with the announcment of this new dlc that the Darkspawn and Grey Wardens are central to the lore in Dragon Age, and this is this the reason for the dlc. They wanted to return to the Grey Wardens with this dlc. I'm sure Grey Wardens and Darkspawn will always be a part of Thedas. DA2 shows they will be handled differently as they approach knew subject material.

This is speculation on my part but I see the the new book Asunder answering what is happening between the mages and the Templars set in Orlai and I see DA3 going somewhere else. I see DA3 going to Rivain, Antiva, Nevarra, Par Vollen, and possibly the Anderfels.

Never knew that, I shall go and watch Bioware TV. Plus isnt it highly rumoured DA3 will be in Orlais.

Just to add I hope the mage - templar war is not going to be the main focus of the series from now on.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Sophia Dryden could easily have gotten a child before she joined the Wardens. She was after all rather old for a Warden recruit IIRC.

No, she was made a warden as a young woman.  It came down to her or King Arland being placed on Ferelden's throne back in the day.   She was actually fighting for the throne of Ferelden.  She was trying to remove her cousin King Arland off the throne when the wardens fought Arland as he turned into a monster (possible demon possession) and pitted noble against noble.  Instead of placing her on the throne, they forced her to become a Grey Warden.  Now she could have had children before she became a warden, the codex doesn't say.  Arland banded the Wardens from Ferelden and Maric allowed them back in. 

I always had the impression when playing Warden's Keep, that Levi Dryden with the death of Cailan wanted to find records to prove he was of royal blood and make a bid for the throne.  There are several doors in the keep and it seemed like an entrance down into dungeons that we could never access when playing that dlc when battling the undead wardens outside.   

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 10 juillet 2011 - 07:08 .

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Jamie_edmo wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

@Jamie_edmo.

Fernando Melo said on BioWare TV with the announcment of this new dlc that the Darkspawn and Grey Wardens are central to the lore in Dragon Age, and this is this the reason for the dlc. They wanted to return to the Grey Wardens with this dlc. I'm sure Grey Wardens and Darkspawn will always be a part of Thedas. DA2 shows they will be handled differently as they approach knew subject material.

This is speculation on my part but I see the the new book Asunder answering what is happening between the mages and the Templars set in Orlai and I see DA3 going somewhere else. I see DA3 going to Rivain, Antiva, Nevarra, Par Vollen, and possibly the Anderfels.

Never knew that, I shall go and watch Bioware TV. Plus isnt it highly rumoured DA3 will be in Orlais.

Just to add I hope the mage - templar war is not going to be the main focus of the series from now on.

I hope not too.  Read the description for the new book when it was announced and also there is a video on BioWare TV...an interview with David Gaider on the book.

Well if your Hawke runs off with Isabela or she gets a ship the story could go anywhere.  DA3 being set in Orlai is just a rumor.  Many thought DA2 would be set in Orlai.  With Sandal being given a position in Empress Celen's court this makes it appear the story will lean that way.  Doesn't mean it will happen.  Bioware fooled most of the fanbase with DA2 being in the Free Marches.

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 10 juillet 2011 - 06:12 .

[Jamie_edmo]

@ ElvaliaRavenHart - Just watched the episode with Fernando Melo, i wonder though they mention that they took feedback into consideration, maybe the story was one of them and the grey wardens or lack thereof in DA2 is why theyre the focus of Legacy.

And I have read the description of the book and it sounds like a set up for DA3 especially if its set in Orlais and is the mage conflict

Modifié par Jamie_edmo, 10 juillet 2011 - 06:10 .

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Jamie_edmo wrote...

@ ElvaliaRavenHart - Just watched the episode with Fernando Melo, i wonder though they mention that they took feedback into consideration, maybe the story was one of them and the grey wardens or lack thereof in DA2 is why theyre the focus of Legacy.

And I have read the description of the book and it sounds like a set up for DA3 especially if its set in Orlais and is the mage conflict

It's possible the new game will be in Orlai.  Alot of players want to see Orlai.  I'm not discounting that DA3 will be in Orlai.  I'm just saying Bioware fooled us once before.

That description of the book is really interesting and I can't wait for Wynne to find her son and what he does to change the lives of mages everywhere.  How did Wynne find her son?  She told Alistair that she had no idea where he was.  I can't wait for the book, and December is so far away. 

Edit: I just had a thought, Leliana could have found his records for Wynne on where her son was.  I can see Leliana doing that and even Alistair as King.

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 10 juillet 2011 - 06:20 .

[Jamie_edmo]

@ ElvaliaRavenHart - "It's possible the new game will be in Orlai. Alot of players want to see Orlai. I'm not discounting that DA3 will be in Orlai. I'm just saying Bioware fooled us once before."

True, I'd prefer it to be in Tevinter post-war, maybe Wynnes son will play a role (unless he dies in the book).

A bit off-topic, I hope Hawke's story is wrapped up in an expansion though, i'd rather play as somebody new, i personally didnt like Hawke

Edit: "I just had a thought, Leliana could have found his records for Wynne on where her son was.  I can see Leliana doing that and even Alistair as King."

That would depend on what ending of DA:O David Gaider considers canon

Modifié par Jamie_edmo, 10 juillet 2011 - 06:24 .

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Jamie_edmo wrote...

@ ElvaliaRavenHart - "It's possible the new game will be in Orlai. Alot of players want to see Orlai. I'm not discounting that DA3 will be in Orlai. I'm just saying Bioware fooled us once before."

True, I'd prefer it to be in Tevinter post-war, maybe Wynnes son will play a role (unless he dies in the book).

A bit off-topic, I hope Hawke's story is wrapped up in an expansion though, i'd rather play as somebody new, i personally didnt like Hawke

Edit: "I just had a thought, Leliana could have found his records for Wynne on where her son was.  I can see Leliana doing that and even Alistair as King."

That would depend on what ending of DA:O David Gaider considers canon

I personally will always love Origins the most.  I've played DA2 eight times now.  I don't hate DA2 just thought it could have been a better game.  I like alot of changes within the game, and the more I play Hawke the more I see that his story does change Thedas.  I think Hawke was just necessary to more the story forward on where the developers wanted to go. 

Personally, I'm in the camp, I want to know what happened to my warden more than anything.  I'm wondering if Wynne isn't one of the mages that Alistair saved from Meredith.  Wynne had permission to leave Ferelden's Tower.  Meredith wouldn't have had a right to hold her.

Well we already know that Leliana being alive seems to be the direction he is going.  I'm also one of those players who don't like to kill their companions off.  I ike to see them in future titles.  That is just me though.  I know other players don't play that way.

[FieryDove]

If it has to do with Hawke's father...I still don't know when he died, in the beginning it said Malcolm died in the blight. The blight really just got started ostagar/lothering. The codex said he died three years ago. I am confused. as usual.

The connection might go back much farther as some stated. I just wonder, are we techincally grey wardens if our father or a distant relative was? And if we are why are our siblings not *immune* to blight.

I don't think the conductor is the architect. I would think the architect is more powerful since he started the first blight, or maybe that was all a....fib.

[Jamie_edmo]

@ElvaliaRavenHart: - "I think Hawke was just necessary to more the story forward on where the developers wanted to go."

I do to especially with the endings being virtually the same I think it makes it easier for the devs to tell their story in DA3, because with the amount of endings in Origins it was hard include all eventualities, DA2 should have had bigger choices but I think we'll be surprised how big of an impact who Hawke sides with will have in DA3 my hunch anyway.

And Origins will probably be my favourite too DA2 was nowhere near close to topping it

Modifié par Jamie_edmo, 10 juillet 2011 - 06:45 .

[JamieCOTC]

The TRUE Dark Hawke Family Secret

Everything was the same.

Every house ... the same.
Every store ... the same
Every cave ... the same
Even the black belly of Darktown had the same walls, floors and ceilings.

Everything was ... the same.

This "sameness" eventually drove Malcolm Hawke insane and so he turned to blood magic and made a deal with the Darkspawn to rid Kirkwall of its own unnatural monotony. But one does not make deals with Darkspawn and remain "whole." Instead of freeing Kirkwall from its nightmare of indistinguishable interior design, they transformed Malcolm Hawke into a Hurlock that looked exactly like every other Darkspawn Hurlock in the Deep Roads.

Once again, everything was ... the same.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 10 juillet 2011 - 06:48 .

[Maria13]

To answer the original question: They're all bloody boring!!!

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

FieryDove wrote...

If it has to do with Hawke's father...I still don't know when he died, in the beginning it said Malcolm died in the blight. The blight really just got started ostagar/lothering. The codex said he died three years ago. I am confused. as usual.

The connection might go back much farther as some stated. I just wonder, are we techincally grey wardens if our father or a distant relative was? And if we are why are our siblings not *immune* to blight.

I don't think the conductor is the architect. I would think the architect is more powerful since he started the first blight, or maybe that was all a....fib.

I"m getting the impression that Malcom did die during the blight just as they said.  Hawke runs into the wardens after he has been in Kirkwall.  His first year is running with merks or being a smuggler.  Hawke has already been in Kirkwall for a year when the blight ends.  Darkspawn could have been roaming around the the wilds, Ostagar, and near Lothering before the blight even got into full swing.  If Malcom was a run away warden, the darkspawn would have sensed him.  Just like the darkspawn tracked Alistair and the Warden down in camp, when they attack the companions camp.  

That is is an interesting point on Malcom's children if he was a Grey Warden, does this mean that a warden's child can't be tainted?  Isn't this the reason that Morrigan needed a male warden?  So her offspring wouldn't become tainted by darkspawn?  Can darkspawn taint any dragon?

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

@ Filament

Wow, I never put that together before that Andraste rose up 26 years after dumat fell. Hmmm, something to ponder.

@ Jamie, that was hilarious.   Also to Maria13, they were boring,  hopefully, the new dlc will spice things up a bit.

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 10 juillet 2011 - 07:00 .

[Melca36]

I think Malcolm died of the Blight Corruption before the Blight was probably even realized.

[Macropodmum]

I honestly don't think the architect and the conductor are one and the same, I think if they start having characters sharing a spirit then it is going to get messy.

[Obadiah]

Filament wrote...
...
Sure. I think I prefer being able to suspect it to be story of an ordinary person whose influence was so great that a religion formed dedicated to her greatly warping the way history remembers her, than to have it established that she genuinely had some special deific powers on her side.

Perhaps that's my real world bias speaking.

Heh, yeah. The truth of Andraste is probably better left as is, obscured by the veil of time. I think Bioware would do the franchise a great disservice fleshing out the exact source of Andraste's power.

[DRTJR]

I think Andreste was a mage...

I know the Hawke secret they where once...Actual hawks

[CrimsonZephyr]

JamieCOTC wrote...

The TRUE Dark Hawke Family Secret

Everything was the same.

Every house ... the same.
Every store ... the same
Every cave ... the same
Even the black belly of Darktown had the same walls, floors and ceilings.

Everything was ... the same.

This "sameness" eventually drove Malcolm Hawke insane and so he turned to blood magic and made a deal with the Darkspawn to rid Kirkwall of its own unnatural monotony. But one does not make deals with Darkspawn and remain "whole." Instead of freeing Kirkwall from its nightmare of indistinguishable interior design, they transformed Malcolm Hawke into a Hurlock that looked exactly like every other Darkspawn Hurlock in the Deep Roads.

Once again, everything was ... the same.

This wins.

[Arokel]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

The Conductor is actually Parthalan.

Also, I'll bet we find out in the DLC.

Conductor: "Malcolm never told you what happened to Parthalan."

Hawke: "He told me enough. He told me you killed him!"

Conductor: "No, I am your great great great great great great great great great grandfather!"

Hawke: "No! That's Impossible!

Seriously though I think it would be cool if Parthalan was tied in.

Modifié par Arokel, 11 juillet 2011 - 06:50 .

[Rifneno]

... Though admittedly, Hello Vader meant "experimenting" in an entirely different way.

[Sajuro]

An ancestor of Hawke's herped and derped into creating the darkspawn.

[WidowMaker9394]

The Hawkes probably have a long history of blood magic.

And they're insane and make irrational decisions all the time.

[WidowMaker9394]

JamieCOTC wrote...

The TRUE Dark Hawke Family Secret

Everything was the same.

Every house ... the same.
Every store ... the same
Every cave ... the same
Even the black belly of Darktown had the same walls, floors and ceilings.

Everything was ... the same.

This "sameness" eventually drove Malcolm Hawke insane and so he turned to blood magic and made a deal with the Darkspawn to rid Kirkwall of its own unnatural monotony. But one does not make deals with Darkspawn and remain "whole." Instead of freeing Kirkwall from its nightmare of indistinguishable interior design, they transformed Malcolm Hawke into a Hurlock that looked exactly like every other Darkspawn Hurlock in the Deep Roads.

Once again, everything was ... the same.

Win.