6970 Antworten in diesem Thema

[Lambda Faction]

Note: This thread is continually  a "Work in Progress." Updated as necessary.

The "Wild West of BSN" ~Seboist

"The Good: Shepard
The Bad: Illusive Man
The Ugly: Udina" ~Jedi Sentinel Arian

Welcome.

Our favorite "advocate" of humanity is slated to make a return appearance in Mass Effect 3 (ME3) on March 06, 2012.

Does The Illusive Man indeed have humanity's best interests at heart? Has he (and Cerberus) become nothing more than a pawn, or a driving force, in a more sinister plot?

This is a discussion/support thread based on official news and/or rumors regarding his role in ME3. 


(Additional Thread Credit: Vamp44, The_Illusive, laecraft, Seboist, Ashwraith)



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Information (Official/Rumors) *Source Links Pending* -SPOILERS-



Mass Effect 3

- The Illusive Man (Cerberus) is pursuing Commander Shepard.

- Cerberus is under Reaper influence/control.



Mass Effect: Retribution (Novel)

- The Illusive Man (Cerberus) has conducted "Indoctrination" experiments.

- Kai Leng is introduced as an operative for The Illusive Man (Cerberus).



Mass Effect: Evolution (Graphic Novel)

- Formerly known as Jack Harper.

- The Illusive Man has had contact with an Artifact/Monolith.



Bioware Social Network (BSN):

- Brenon Holmes (June) - Part One; "You won't be fighting Cerberus all game." (Credit: laecraft)

- Brenon Holmes (June) - Part Two; "I can't remember quite off the top of my head... but I think Cerberus accounts for 40-ish percent?" (Credit: laecraft)



Twitter:

- Casey Hudson (05/10/11) - Cerberus is out to get Shepard in ME3. (Credit: laecraft)

- Casey Hudson (05/11/11) - Regarding Roleplaying; Shepard had no choice in working with Cerberus (ME2). ME2/ME3 still allows roleplayer to choose to agree (or disagree) with statement. (Credit: laecraft)

- Casey Hudson (06/06/11) - Simplification for "TV" at E3 (Demo); Both Cerberus + Reapers against Shepard. Why? (Credit: laecraft)


- Mac Walters (08/06/11) - Signifigance of destroying base in ME2. (Credit: laecraft)

- Mac Walters (08/07/11) - Regarding "loose ends"; Lazarus Project. (Credit: Seboist)

- Mac Walters (08/09/11) - Shepard and T.I.M. not seeing eye to eye, Cerberus. (Credit: laecraft)

- Mac Walters (08/18/11) - "That, and Cerberus is trying to kill you..." (Credit: laecraft)

- Mac Walters (09/15/11) - T.I.M. as a love interest (L.I.) when Varren fly. (Credit: Kaiser Shepard)



Interviews:

- Mac Walters Interview Part Four of Four (12/31/10) - New York Videogame Critics Circle - Views on T.I.M.

- Mac Walters Interview (07/26/11) - Newsarama.com (Credit: laecraft)



Videos:

- PAX 2011 Demo - "Cerberus is a privately funded radical pro-human organization. While their current motives are unclear, they appear to be opposing the Systems Alliance. They should be considered extremely hostile and dangerous." (Credit: laecraft)

- ME3/DA2 Legacy Q&A (August) - 19:09; Allying with Cerberus, answer. (Credit: laecraft)



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Bearbeitet von Lambda Faction, 20 Februar 2012 - 06:32 .

[GodWood]

*supports*

[HogarthHughes 3]

  ^ Ditto

I hope whatever Bioware comes up with for ME3 will do him justice.

[Arijharn]

I like the Illusive Man a lot, not because I actually think he's rather honest (! - think about it) but just because he's a deliciously fun character.

In fact, I think he's easily my favourite character in the entire ME universe.

Whatever happens, I hope he can't be killed in ME3 (unless you know, everyone dying is an option) because I think for all of Shephard's capabilities, he/she isn't actually smarter than the true Jack.

[Seboist]

TIM is a great man who saved humanity from the Collectors and who's dedicated decades of his life to advancing human rights and interests. He's the man most deserving of settling down with my femshep.<3

[MYepes95]

I like that the Illusive man will be an enemy in ME3. I don't like his motivations, but he's a very complex character and intelligent enough to give my Shep a challenge.

[The_Illusive]

I think that even Martin Sheen would approve of this thread.

[ladyvader]

I support the Illusive Man coming back in ME3 just long enough for me to shot him right between those now glowing eyes of his.

[goofyomnivore]

GodWood wrote...

*supports*

Word.

Bearbeitet von strive, 09 Juli 2011 - 04:55 .

[Repearized Miranda]

The_Illusive wrote...

I think that even Martin Sheen would approve of this thread.

I bet he would, too. I still find it funny when he said he doesn't like him. I think that's why so many hate TIM because of how Martin portrays him. Goes to show that these VAs were fantastic!

Btw, I think one of the avies (the OPs) could actually be Martin animated. It's not, but could you picture it?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Meh. I am not setting my hopes up for a decent role. I pretty much expect TIM to be ME's equlievant of "First enchanter Orsino" or rather "I am going to turn bad now because the plot demands it".

[armass]

Yeah don't you just love cabalist, nationalist terrorists. Seriously only thing this guy deserves is jail...

Bearbeitet von armass, 09 Juli 2011 - 05:37 .

[BatmanPWNS]

I would like a boss battle with the guy. Maybe he can get into a cyborg suit or something. Also at the end it would nice if you could get the option to kill him or let him live so he can support Shepard in the war.

[Seboist]

Lizardviking wrote...

Meh. I am not setting my hopes up for a decent role. I pretty much expect TIM to be ME's equlievant of "First enchanter Orsino" or rather "I am going to turn bad now because the plot demands it".

That sadly isn't out of the question.

[ashlover mark 2]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

I would like a boss battle with the guy. Maybe he can get into a cyborg suit or something. Also at the end it would nice if you could get the option to kill him or let him live so he can support Shepard in the war.

if there would be a boss fight with him,i expect that it would be similar to sarens at the end of ME1.a reaper enhanced TIM who is taken over by harbinger.

Bearbeitet von ashlover mark 2, 09 Juli 2011 - 07:00 .

[Repearized Miranda]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

I would like a boss battle with the guy. Maybe he can get into a cyborg suit or something. Also at the end it would nice if you could get the option to kill him or let him live so he can support Shepard in the war.

if there would be a boss fight with him,i expect that it would be similar to sarens at the end of ME1.a reaper enhanced TIM who is taken over by harbinger.

Then, folks will say that it is too much like Saren with Sovereign - although they can't just "do nothing" after emphasizing his eyes in ME2. Whatever they came up with, I just hope he's a formidible foe!

[ashlover mark 2]

Repearized Miranda wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

I would like a boss battle with the guy. Maybe he can get into a cyborg suit or something. Also at the end it would nice if you could get the option to kill him or let him live so he can support Shepard in the war.

if there would be a boss fight with him,i expect that it would be similar to sarens at the end of ME1.a reaper enhanced TIM who is taken over by harbinger.

Then, folks will say that it is too much like Saren with Sovereign - although they can't just "do nothing" after emphasizing his eyes in ME2. Whatever they came up with, I just hope he's a formidible foe!

not nessciarly,if done right ppl like throw backs.ME2 may be more epic or better to some but ME1 is the classic.what better way  to end your triliogy than the way it started.

a reaper indoctrinated TIM is to some a sympathetic charecter. a man who tried to save the galaxy but was overcome and possesed (much like saren) and now against his will he becomes the enemy.

haveing a final boss fight with him in this manner mirrows past events and sort of brings  closuer to it all.

[Slurms McKenzie]

Martin Sheen is the ******.

Good Luck and Stay Safe

[Repearized Miranda]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

I would like a boss battle with the guy. Maybe he can get into a cyborg suit or something. Also at the end it would nice if you could get the option to kill him or let him live so he can support Shepard in the war.

if there would be a boss fight with him,i expect that it would be similar to sarens at the end of ME1.a reaper enhanced TIM who is taken over by harbinger.

Then, folks will say that it is too much like Saren with Sovereign - although they can't just "do nothing" after emphasizing his eyes in ME2. Whatever they came up with, I just hope he's a formidible foe!

not nessciarly,if done right ppl like throw backs.ME2 may be more epic or better to some but ME1 is the classic.what better way  to end your triliogy than the way it started.

a reaper indoctrinated TIM is to some a sympathetic charecter. a man who tried to save the galaxy but was overcome and possesed (much like saren) and now against his will he becomes the enemy.

having a final boss fight with him in this manner mirrors past events and sort of brings  closure to it all.

*minor fixes*

Oh, yeah! I didn't say I'd be one of those people who'd frown on throwbacks; however, if that scenario were to happen, I'd like to actively take down Harbinger and TIM. I read that Kai Leng would be involved, too. Basically, I want to actively take on everyone who stands between us. I do hope they do this right! 

[ashlover mark 2]

kai leng will be an enemy while i dont know for sure i belive almost 90% he will be.bioware likes to play "shade of grey" with things but in the end their line of morality is rather clear "mass genocide" bad "terroism" bad "xenophobia and racsim" bad.

"cerberus and their actions" (despite their noble golas) bad.you can probley role play anti alliance and council.but its pretty likely that cerberus will be completely destroyed.

this is just my perspective.

[Inquisitor Recon]

TIM has my support. I strongly hope Bioware doesn't go with:
- TIM is indoctrinated
- TIM is just EVILLLLLLLLLL

TIM is supposed to represent the best and worst of humanity, not some 2D bad guy.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I am not optimistic about what ME3 will do with his character, but I hope it won't ruin him and turn him into a meh 1-2D character. I am generally getting tired of Bioware's entire writing philosophy and them ruining TIM in such a fashion would push me closer to indifference.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I am not optimistic about what ME3 will do with his character, but I hope it won't ruin him and turn him into a meh 1-2D character. I am generally getting tired of Bioware's entire writing philosophy and them ruining TIM in such a fashion would push me closer to indifference.

Perhaps they might have him turn into a harvester or take out a cigarette made out of an idol which in turn is made of pure eezo which in turn gives him super powers!

Bearbeitet von Lizardviking, 09 Juli 2011 - 08:04 .

[Mr Powers94]

ladyvader wrote...

I support the Illusive Man coming back in ME3 just long enough for me to shot him right between those now glowing eyes of his.

I disagree i want to have some fun with that SOB (torture him) before i blow his brains al over the wall. Kahoku RIP.