Ce sujet est fermécacharadon wrote...
You do realise that your talking about a father and his only daughter right?
Not even related by blood. A person he hardly saw on a regular basis. He had a job to do and he lost sight of it at the last minute.
Brotherhood of Cerberus - The Illusive Man Discussion/Support Thread
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Posté 21 octobre 2011 - 11:45
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Not even related by blood. A person he hardly saw on a regular basis. He had a job to do and he lost sight of it at the last minute.
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Posté 21 octobre 2011 - 11:48
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Congratulations on making it to Page 100, everybody!
*confettis thread*
*confettis thread*
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Posté 21 octobre 2011 - 11:48
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Dr.Gavin Archer was able to put the cause before family, why couldn't Grayson?
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Posté 21 octobre 2011 - 11:49
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And of course, I'd like to know why he hates aliens so damn much. INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW, KAI LENG.
I dont think the books ever said he hates them, just have very low respect. Still he better not die in the new book/comic they said they were killing someone off. My shepards not gonna be robed off a slowmotion melee attack on mass effect's Anders Brevick... what, too soon?
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Posté 21 octobre 2011 - 11:54
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Ashwraith wrote...
Congratulations on making it to Page 100, everybody!
*confettis thread*
Let's not forget that it's because of me that this thread has been this succesful. *pats self on back*
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Posté 21 octobre 2011 - 11:56
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I don't do hate, nor bigotry.Seboist wrote...
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They smell, he doesn't need any more of a reason than that.Ashwraith wrote...
And of course, I'd like to know why he hates aliens so damn much. INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW, KAI LENG.
Did he attend the Kaiser Shepard school of hate and bigotry?
Because Archer acted out of fear, whereas Grayson's motivation was love.Seboist wrote...
Dr.Gavin Archer was able to put the cause before family, why couldn't Grayson?
So, where's the alcohol?Ashwraith wrote...
Congratulations on making it to Page 100, everybody!
*confettis thread*
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 12:05
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Currently have a glass of gin in my hand in celebration.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 12:12
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Kaiser Shepard wrote...
I don't do hate, nor bigotry.Seboist wrote...
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
They smell, he doesn't need any more of a reason than that.Ashwraith wrote...
And of course, I'd like to know why he hates aliens so damn much. INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW, KAI LENG.
Did he attend the Kaiser Shepard school of hate and bigotry?Because Archer acted out of fear, whereas Grayson's motivation was love.Seboist wrote...
Dr.Gavin Archer was able to put the cause before family, why couldn't Grayson?
Your detractors on here would beg to differ.
Oh and Gavin DID act out of love for his own people. He's a good man, far more than that scumbag Grayson.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 12:30
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Seboist wrote...
Ashwraith wrote...
Congratulations on making it to Page 100, everybody!
*confettis thread*
Let's not forget that it's because of me that this thread has been this succesful. *pats self on back*
*throws black, orange, and white confetti over Seboist*
A celebratory dance is in order. Wouldn't it be priceless to see Shepard dancing in ME3 again? And better yet, maybe we can dance with TIM.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 12:33
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Because Archer acted out of fear, whereas Grayson's motivation was love.
If that be the case, then Shepard acts out of fear, too. The fear that the Reapers would win and the galaxy would be destroyed.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 12:36
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I'm thinking more people want to dance ON The Illusive Man than with him.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 12:42
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I'm sure that a ladies man like TIM knows how to work the dance floor. He'll sweep femshep off her feet with ease. <3
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 01:53
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Depends on how exactly you roleplay your character, but I agree that is the motivation he's sort of pushed towards. After ME1, I suspect TIM's is fear as well. Not of death, mind you, but of becoming a mindless slave like his turian "counterpart".laecraft wrote...
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Because Archer acted out of fear, whereas Grayson's motivation was love.
If that be the case, then Shepard acts out of fear, too. The fear that the Reapers would win and the galaxy would be destroyed.
I'm not so bad... once you get to know me.Seboist wrote...
Your detractors on here would beg to differ.
Clockwork Oranging David was an act of fear. As he himself says: "The Illusive Man doesn't broker failure."Oh and Gavin DID act out of love for his own people. He's a good man, far more than that scumbag Grayson.
TIM can dance if he wants to, he can leave those fools behind, because their friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine...Dave of Canada wrote...
I'm thinking more people want to dance ON The Illusive Man than with him.
Sorry.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 02:17
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By Collider. OP-worthy, if I do say so myself.
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Aaaaa, but is there someone to catch him on the other side?! *anxious*
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 02:41
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Why, of course there is.
Namely, all of us.
...Yes, I know the grammar in that statement was all sorts of messed up. You get the idea. >.>
Namely, all of us.
...Yes, I know the grammar in that statement was all sorts of messed up. You get the idea. >.>
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 02:41
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laecraft wrote...
Aaaaa, but is there someone to catch him on the other side?! *anxious*
Hopefully femshep or Kelly will. <3
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 03:02
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Ashwraith wrote...
Aeowyn wrote...
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Who the hell is Kai Leng? He must be from the books, right?
Yeah, Cerberus operative and former N7 marine that TIM got out of prison for killing a Krogan with a knife.
Oh. He killed a Krogan all by himself? What else is there to know about him?
He can kill armoured and armed turians while dancing naked in the moonlight with a knife in his hand.
He's the Most Interesting Cerberus Operative in the World.
He doesn't always drink, but when he does....
... ahh shoot, he always drinks.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 03:23
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Dave of Canada wrote...
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I see. I take it that Kai Leng is a bastard, then. The kind of person you'd buy an expensive bullet to save for the coup de gras.
*SPOILER*
Most people hate him for killing Aria's daughter.
Which I find pretty comical. Personally I don't care if Kai killed some low life gang banger. If Aria had any sense she would have not allowed her daughter to become involved in her lifestyle. I don't hate Aria, however I also don't hold much respect for her either, and wouldn't shed a tear if she lost her "coveted" position. It's not like she's doing anything to improve the condition on Omega.
I'm hoping against hope however that Kai can be ME's Zevran, in that we can recruit him. I don't like his bigotry, but I think he could take up Thane's slot on the team nicely since Thane is dying and all, I can only imagine the banter possibilies. But I'm sure they'll come up with a cure in the nick of time for him, and not have him be a tragic character, especially for the romance.
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Seboist wrote...
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Aaaaa, but is there someone to catch him on the other side?! *anxious*
Hopefully femshep or Kelly will. <3
And then they dance with TIM. Kelly knows a thing or two about dancing. With or ... on. Femshep also must have picked a few hot dance moves in all the bars she's visited.
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Depends on how exactly you roleplay your character, but I agree that is the motivation he's sort of pushed towards. After ME1, I suspect TIM's is fear as well. Not of death, mind you, but of becoming a mindless slave like his turian "counterpart".
And Grayson acts out of fear of something bad happening to his daughter. And TIM acts out of fear of humanity being wiped out. And Hackett acts out of fear of humanity being dragged into a war with the batarians. And the leaders of nations act out of fear of organic civilizations being destroyed by the Reapers.
Love and fear of loss cannot be separated. The measure of hero and leader is not love or fear. It is whether or not you care about someone other than yourself. And whether or not that domain includes more than a few people - LI and family.
TIM is fighting for humanity, and he'll sacrifice individuals for saving it. Grayson is fighting for his daughter, and he will sacrifice humanity for it. Aria is fighting for her cesspit of corruption, and she'd let the galaxy burn. Who is more selfless and noble?
By the time of Retribution, TIM is the only one doing anything about the Reapers. The fate of humanity and the galaxy hinges on whether or not he finds a countermeasure in time. I'm NOT rooting for Grayson.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 04:31
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Illusive Man: "I will now file page 100 of this thread with the other dossiers of this thread. BSN Users, I now have 100 dossiers for all of you."
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 04:41
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I think he should be taken down after Shepard stops the Reapers, story-wise. Like, he's the last loose end that needs taking care of. Gameplay-wise, we should have to murder our way through the station he sat in for the entirety of ME2, hopefully breaking Kie(Kia?(dont know how to spell his first name)) Leng's legs and arms along the way, and when we take on The Illusive Man himself, he should have some sort of biotic/reaper-tech based super attack. Like, biotic-reaper lighting, or something. That he hopefully shoots from his eyes.
