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[Sebby]

Ravensword wrote...

laecraft wrote...

I don't need to wait for the arguments to die down to worship TIM. I can multitask. And TIM is already lying on the altar, and I can see the sacrificial knife go down as the crowd is cheering. I won't leave him at his final hour.

What's that now? You acknowledge that TIM will die then?

Seboist wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

We're
all dealing with the people constantly talking about reforming Cerberus
and it's got me thinking, what if we're forced to reform Cerberus but
don't have to eliminate The Illusive Man to do so? He isn't likely to
share power quite so easily, I doubt we're going to see him simply step
back but imagine where you'd rise up and become his equal in terms of
strength (possibly with Miranda).

You'd have the three heads of Cerberus:
Miranda would be the one in charge of projects.
TIM would be in charge of finances and politics.
Shepard would be the enforcer.

I
wouldn't want Miranda to be anywhere near a "reformed" Cerberus. If my
Cerberus Shepard has her way Miri and Oriana will find themselves
scatttered through-out several dumpsters in Juarez.

What's your beef w/ Miranda? Her outfit wasn't provactive enough? And why are you gonna hurt her sister who absolutely has nothing to do w/ Cerberus in the first place?

Actually, I found her outfit TOO provactive but that's not the point. Her loyalty to the cause wavered and now my Shepard will make her and everyone she holds dear pay for it.

[Sebby]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Mass Effect 3 has a Jade Empire-esque ending where you sacrifice yourself for TIM?

My Shepard would sacrifice herself and her entire crew(including a romanced Zaeed!) to save him.

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

laecraft wrote...

I don't need to wait for the arguments to die down to worship TIM. I can multitask. And TIM is already lying on the altar, and I can see the sacrificial knife go down as the crowd is cheering. I won't leave him at his final hour.

What's that now? You acknowledge that TIM will die then?

Seboist wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

We're
all dealing with the people constantly talking about reforming Cerberus
and it's got me thinking, what if we're forced to reform Cerberus but
don't have to eliminate The Illusive Man to do so? He isn't likely to
share power quite so easily, I doubt we're going to see him simply step
back but imagine where you'd rise up and become his equal in terms of
strength (possibly with Miranda).

You'd have the three heads of Cerberus:
Miranda would be the one in charge of projects.
TIM would be in charge of finances and politics.
Shepard would be the enforcer.

I
wouldn't want Miranda to be anywhere near a "reformed" Cerberus. If my
Cerberus Shepard has her way Miri and Oriana will find themselves
scatttered through-out several dumpsters in Juarez.

What's your beef w/ Miranda? Her outfit wasn't provactive enough? And why are you gonna hurt her sister who absolutely has nothing to do w/ Cerberus in the first place?

Actually, I found her outfit TOO provactive but that's not the point. Her loyalty to the cause wavered and now my Shepard will make her and everyone she holds dear pay for it.

Aw, come on! What the hell is Cerberus now? The Mafia?

[Dave of Canada]

Ravensword wrote...

At some point you're just gonna have to deal w/ it and put down TIM. It's for the greater good. Deep down you know that the galaxy will be a better place w/o TIM. You can then observe a moment of silence for him once you've taken him down.

Yeah, no. I'm not seeing how humanity losing one of it's only defenders (more so if you killed the Council) making the galaxy better.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 26 octobre 2011 - 01:08 .

[Sebby]

Ravensword wrote...

Aw, come on! What the hell is Cerberus now? The Mafia?

Nah, it's just that my Shepard is a psychotic b*tch.

[Ravensword]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

At some point you're just gonna have to deal w/ it and put down TIM. It's for the greater good. Deep down you know that the galaxy will be a better place w/o TIM. You can then observe a moment of silence for him once you've taken him down.

Yeah, no. I'm not seeing how humanity losing one of it's only defenders (more so if you killed the Council) making the galaxy better.

Oh, as if humanity would ever need TIM after the Reapers have been dealt w/ and not everyone is dead. He will be redundant after that. He can either surrender or die. If he surrenders he will be sent to space Guantanamo and waterboarded  there, b/c torture seems to be perfectly acceptable in the ME universe.

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Aw, come on! What the hell is Cerberus now? The Mafia?

Nah, it's just that my Shepard is a psychotic b*tch.

Oh, well then that makes sesne then in a completely irrational way. Needs to kill someone at the drop of a hat. I'm sure that Miranda will go to ground to hide from your femShep. She'll probably hideout in Omega as a stripper.

[Ashwraith]

Ravensword wrote...

At some point you're just gonna have to deal w/ it and put down TIM. It's for the greater good. Deep down you know that the galaxy will be a better place w/o TIM. You can then observe a moment of silence for him once you've taken him down.

Actually, no, I don't know that. At all.
But if the game forces my hand and it's the only way I can complete Mass Effect 3, then... Well, I have a feeling my canon Shep is going to spend the rest of her life feeling like chick Craig Boone.

I play Infiltrator, you see. It's one thing to rain a hail of bullets down upon a battlefield, or Biotic Charge your way around the screen while howling in glee and bludgeoning things with your shotgun.

It's an entirely different thing to crouch, cloaked, behind cover, staring at a man you respect and admire, through a rifle scope. And then pulling the trigger, because from a gamepoint perspective, it's the only thing you can do.

I can't speak for Shepard, of course, but that kind of setup would absolutely destroy me.
It wouldn't even have to be TIM; it could be any of the characters I gre attached to, which is to say most of them. I hate hurting people I care about, even if those people are made of pixels.

Modifié par Ashwraith, 26 octobre 2011 - 01:17 .

[Dave of Canada]

He won't be redundant, the entire galaxy will be filled with Reaper tech and the Council will either forbid it or hinder it from being fully researched. You'd have other groups, alien or mercenary, researching the tech behind the scenes and master it before applying it's many uses for themselves.

Cerberus researching Reaper tech without safety precautions and without restrictions allows humanity to possibly advance at a faster pace, if they'd fail we'd be on the same page as everybody else and if they succeed then all of humanity benefits for the technological advancements.

What would occur if the Alliance is too lazy to study indoctrination and the STG masters it behind the scenes? They'd be at a far greater disadvantage

The Collector Base is simply a headstart in the research department.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 26 octobre 2011 - 01:19 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

Kaiser reveals excerpts of his latest PM w/ Xili.

Make that the only PM.

Hey now, I only revealed a couple of early ones from a fairly long series of 'em.

[Ravensword]

Dave of Canada wrote...

He won't be redundant, the entire galaxy will be filled with Reaper tech and the Council will either forbid it or hinder it from being fully researched. You'd have other groups, alien or mercenary, researching the tech behind the scenes and master it before applying it's many uses for themselves.

Cerberus researching Reaper tech without safety precautions and without restrictions allows humanity to possibly advance at a faster pace, if they'd fail we'd be on the same page as everybody else and if they succeed then all of humanity benefits for the technological advancements.

What would occur if the Alliance is too lazy to study indoctrination and the STG masters it behind the scenes? They'd be at a far greater disadvantage

The Collector Base is simply a headstart in the research department.

Right. Or people will end up becoming indoctrinated. We all know what happens to people who spend to much time studying Reaper tech.

[Dave of Canada]

Ravensword wrote...

We all know what happens to people who spend to much time studying Reaper tech.

They defeat the Reapers.

Protheans studying Reaper tech helped stop Sovereign.
Humanity and Turians studying Reaper tech helped in defeating the Collectors.

[Ravensword]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Kaiser reveals excerpts of his latest PM w/ Xili.

Make that the only PM.

Hey now, I only revealed a couple of early ones from a fairly long series of 'em.

Declassify the PMs. We demand it.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Ravensword wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Kaiser reveals excerpts of his latest PM w/ Xili.

Make that the only PM.

Hey now, I only revealed a couple of early ones from a fairly long series of 'em.

Declassify the PMs. We demand it.

You don't get to make demands of Xil and me, Raven.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 26 octobre 2011 - 02:05 .

[Sebby]

Ravensword wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Aw, come on! What the hell is Cerberus now? The Mafia?

Nah, it's just that my Shepard is a psychotic b*tch.

Oh, well then that makes sesne then in a completely irrational way. Needs to kill someone at the drop of a hat. I'm sure that Miranda will go to ground to hide from your femShep. She'll probably hideout in Omega as a stripper.

Things sure didn't turn out too well for Ashley on Virmire when my Shepard suspected her of trying to take her man Kaidan away from her.

[Ultai]

Dave of Canada wrote...

We're all dealing with the people constantly talking about reforming Cerberus and it's got me thinking, what if we're forced to reform Cerberus but don't have to eliminate The Illusive Man to do so? He isn't likely to share power quite so easily, I doubt we're going to see him simply step back but imagine where you'd rise up and become his equal in terms of strength (possibly with Miranda).

You'd have the three heads of Cerberus:
Miranda would be the one in charge of projects.
TIM would be in charge of finances and politics.
Shepard would be the enforcer.

This has always crossed my mind about choosing the name Cerberus.  TIM seems to be the only prominent "head" of the group.  Are there others in charge with equal power for other tasks?  Could you be onto something there with Miranda and Shep?  Or maybe, the more likely truth, TIM just chose it because the name sounded cool. 

[Dave of Canada]

The Illusive Man is trying to find everlasting youth with Reaper nanites, possibly to hook up with CougarShep?

Also I've been listening to my Renegade Shepard's "theme song" and feel it applies to TIM, more so after Evolution when Ben and Eva died.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 26 octobre 2011 - 01:49 .

[Sebby]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

laecraft wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

laecraft wrote...

I don't need to wait for the arguments to die down to worship TIM. I can multitask. And TIM is already lying on the altar, and I can see the sacrificial knife go down as the crowd is cheering. I won't leave him at his final hour.

You give TIM far too little credit. He has his gun, you have yours, and the time to draw is approaching...

He can insert his gun into my femshep's holster anyday. <3

hell yeah! <3

Hell NO. 

FemShep is a cougar. She only cares for younger men (and women, in my case). 

I mean, Martin Sheen is hot and everything, but... no. Just a bit too old for my tastes.

TIM has looks, charm, charisma, wealth and power. What more could a woman ask for?

[Dave of Canada]

laecraft wrote...

But I agree that Shepard does have a tendency to look for romances to underlings rather than equals.

Probably the only thing appealing me to the Ashley romance in ME3 (Spectre + Ex-Spectre? Hawt) and Kelly (She's a subordinate but really doesn't grovel at Shepard's feet).