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[Xilizhra]

You chose to fight the Reapers to protect "your own people,"

No, that's you. I'm fighting to protect everyone who isn't trying to wipe out everyone else.

it's fine to genocide an entire species composed of thousands of nations to defend the galaxy of only a few nations who resist with all their might to being saved, but fighting for humanity and saving them whatever the cost because you're a human and these are your people who showed that they worth it is suddenly a bad thing?

When you intend to crush those other species afterwards, yes. Also, I don't think a Reaper qualifies as multiple people; the programs are multiple, but they all seem to speak with one voice and think as one mind. Sovereign always called itself "I." Harbinger switched between "I" and "we," but a lot of the "we" usages could refer to it and the other Reapers. The multiple programs don't seem to be individuals anymore than a single human neuron could be called individual.

Or maybe fighting for survival is a good thing, but fighting for advancement is bad? I wonder, if the Reapers offered the galaxy a peace pact - they'd let us live, but only if they bomb us into a stone age, would Paragons agree to this? Would the anti-TIM people agree to have the galaxy live at the brink of survival, their population controlled and their lives sustained by machines, like the krogan and the quarians live? Somehow I doubt so.

How would it matter? I'm not in charge of all the civilizations of the galaxy no matter how awesome I am, so the decision wouldn't be mine.

Honestly this was screwed from the start, perhaps because of the whole "species = nation" thing, so everyone who wants to be loyal to their people and wants to fight for their faction is labeled a speciest douchebag. If the devs simply gave us two completely new factions to choose from, unrelated to your own species, that wouldn't have been a problem. DA2 got it right with the mages against templars utterly fictional thing...even though they got almost everything else wrong.

Actually, I think it's more the terrorism thing. Though I can't fathom why you don't see those of other species as really being people.

The blame is on those who carelessly uplifted the krogan in the first place to use them as cannon fodder in the rachni wars. The Council took away from the krogan their chance to mature properly on their own, and neither did they help the krogan with that. Mordin's team only did damage control.

The blame was also on the krogan for starting the Rebellions. Unlike the geth, the krogan weren't threatened in any way, they just wanted to conquer.

[MisterJB]

Xilizhra wrote...

The blame is on those who carelessly uplifted the krogan in the first place to use them as cannon fodder in the rachni wars. The Council took away from the krogan their chance to mature properly on their own, and neither did they help the krogan with that. Mordin's team only did damage control.

The blame was also on the krogan for starting the Rebellions. Unlike the geth, the krogan weren't threatened in any way, they just wanted to conquer.

The Krogan were threatened by their own numbers which lead to lack of resources. This Krogan population explosion came to be because the other races took the Krogans out of Tuchanka where the harsh conditions kept them in check and because they encouraged them to breed in the numbers needed to defeat the Rachni.

Modifié par MisterJB, 04 novembre 2011 - 03:23 .

[Dave of Canada]

Replaying ME2 and completely forgot TIM reclaimed the Klendragon weapon, he says it's defunct but who says he wasn't lying or hasn't been trying to rebuild it. Do you think it might play some role in the future, possibly turning it against the Reapers or using it against a homeworld?

[General User]

TIM told the truth. The weapon was defunct... when he found it. I do wonder just how effective it will ultimately be.

How fast can it fire?

How mobile is the platform?

Is the rate of fire adjustable?

Can shots be timed so that multiple rounds impact simultaneously?

Can the power be increased? I mean scaring a planet is one thing, what about cracking one like an egg?

[Dave of Canada]

Cerberus Death Star, we're running there to prevent it from nuking [insert valuable thing] but realize we can't turn it off and have to turn it against a planet. After that, Joker shoots an exhaust port and it blows up.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Save T.I.M from being a villain in ME3. I don't know what is Bioware doing about him.

[Sebby]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Replaying ME2 and completely forgot TIM reclaimed the Klendragon weapon, he says it's defunct but who says he wasn't lying or hasn't been trying to rebuild it. Do you think it might play some role in the future, possibly turning it against the Reapers or using it against a homeworld?

Like General User it could have been defunct when he found it and there's no doubt it'll play a role in ME3 or otherwise they wouldn't have mentioned it..... I hope.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Replaying ME2 and completely forgot TIM reclaimed the Klendragon weapon, he says it's defunct but who says he wasn't lying or hasn't been trying to rebuild it. Do you think it might play some role in the future, possibly turning it against the Reapers or using it against a homeworld?

He hasn't reclaimed it just yet, although he's in the process of doing so in Invasion.

[Sebby]

ITT: Kaiser becoming Zulu 2.0 by presenting his theories as fact.

[Dean_the_Young]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Replaying ME2 and completely forgot TIM reclaimed the Klendragon weapon, he says it's defunct but who says he wasn't lying or hasn't been trying to rebuild it.

I doubt the first one, since as a rule TIM only lies by omission whenever possible. I've raised the second a number of times myself.

Do you think it might play some role in the future, possibly turning it against the Reapers or using it against a homeworld?

I hope so, but it would also make good post-ME3 content, especially in the context of an MMO.

'As the galaxy recovers from the Reapers, the ShadowBroker has learned that the Human-supremacist group Cerberus has been reconstructing an ancient weapon of planet-destroying proportions. Now (your faction) aims to secure it for themselves, and stop all the others who are after it.'

[Dean_the_Young]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

It's not even that Renegade is 'doesn't care to help people' or 'without ethics.'

You generally get Paragon points for helping people. It's Paragon.

Sometimes I heal good people. Sometimes I shoot bad people. Both help. /Mordin Paraphrase


But really, accepting sidequests isn't a P/R decision, nor is completing them. It's the tone you resolve them in that matters. (Looks at the good ME1 Citadel sidequests, like the Bhattia's wife, or the argument over gene-therapy.)

[Kaiser Shepard]

Seboist wrote...

ITT: Kaiser becoming Zulu 2.0 by presenting his theories as fact.

Are you implying it isn't?

[Sebby]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Seboist wrote...

ITT: Kaiser becoming Zulu 2.0 by presenting his theories as fact.

Are you implying it isn't?

TIM may just be looking for another space crib ya know.

[General User]

TIM's fortress in modular. The section that houses his office is detachable from the section that houses his living quarters, is detachable from the section where he meets his... lady friends, is detachable from the section that blows up planets.

Modifié par General User, 04 novembre 2011 - 11:10 .

[Sebby]

General User wrote...

TIM's fortress in modular. The section that houses his office is detachable from the section that houses his living quarters is detachable from the section where he meets his... lady friends is detachable from the section that blows up planets.

I hope we get to visit that one.

[Xilizhra]

Seboist wrote...

General User wrote...

TIM's fortress in modular. The section that houses his office is detachable from the section that houses his living quarters is detachable from the section where he meets his... lady friends is detachable from the section that blows up planets.

I hope we get to visit that one.

Have you seen Teltin? I think it's like that, but maybe not as rainy.

[General User]

Nevermind

Modifié par General User, 04 novembre 2011 - 11:28 .

[Sebby]

Xilizhra wrote...

Seboist wrote...

General User wrote...

TIM's fortress in modular. The section that houses his office is detachable from the section that houses his living quarters is detachable from the section where he meets his... lady friends is detachable from the section that blows up planets.

I hope we get to visit that one.

Have you seen Teltin? I think it's like that, but maybe not as rainy.

Are you saying dirty and messy is a bad thing?

[Dave of Canada]

Seboist wrote...

Are you saying dirty and messy is a bad thing?

Don't forget the restraints, all his ladies are into bondage.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 04 novembre 2011 - 11:39 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

Seboist wrote...

General User wrote...

TIM's fortress in modular. The section that houses his office is detachable from the section that houses his living quarters is detachable from the section where he meets his... lady friends is detachable from the section that blows up planets.

I hope we get to visit that one.

Have you seen Teltin? I think it's like that, but maybe not as rainy.

They're all detained in their respective cells, but at least his prize pony is fed well?

Seems like a decent arrangement to me.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 04 novembre 2011 - 11:43 .

[Dave of Canada]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

They're all restrained in their respective cells, but at least his prize pony is fed well?

Seems like a decent arrangement to me.

"Hello, lovely #536. Do you want to try this position with me?"
"Kay."
[afterwards]
"Wow."
"Yeah... honey? Don't use that position on lovely zero."
"I agree."

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 04 novembre 2011 - 11:44 .

[Sebby]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Are you saying dirty and messy is a bad thing?

Don't forget the restraints, all his ladies are into bondage.

TIM is a pro with his interpretation of "human dominance".

[Sebby]

Speaking of ponies...



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